BruiserBear
Banned
The framerate drops are disappointing. Particularly Halo CE.
Digital Foundry: Hands-on with Halo: The Master Chief Collection
- Thread starter nbnt
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I wonder if alot of the issues DF brought up were due to time constraints and not hardware & developer limitations. It makes me wonder when Microsoft decided to commission this collection - perhaps as a result of the poor sales and Halo 5 not launching until fall 2015.
Just my speculation
Miles Quaritch
Member
So this is where Shin-Ra has been posting. I was looking forward to their comments in the LoTF DF thread, but alas....
LoveCake
Member
I did have this on order, but not anymore, after seeing the video & that the original performs better than the revamped version, how the original is not locked 60fpps i simply do not understand, it performs better than the revamped version.
I played the CE version in 3D & it was fantastic!
I'm no longer going to buy this when i still have the original Halo games & the consoles to play them on.
I have Far Cry 4 on the way & also i'm still enjoying Destiny & have just started Bayonetta 2 i have plenty of things to play, i may pick it up when it's cheaper.
I'm disappointed really
I played the CE version in 3D & it was fantastic!
I'm no longer going to buy this when i still have the original Halo games & the consoles to play them on.
I have Far Cry 4 on the way & also i'm still enjoying Destiny & have just started Bayonetta 2 i have plenty of things to play, i may pick it up when it's cheaper.
I'm disappointed really
This one's an exclusive for the Xbox One
He was also preaching how poor the IQ is for Sunset Overdrive in that DF thread so it's no surprise really.
RandyBobandy
Banned
He sure loves posting about a game he will never buy
Hopefully it fixes the frame rates.
Especially if the multiplat comparison articles were written by Richard Leadbetter, who's a huge Xbox fanboy (in one of the articles that he wrote, he did everything he could to discredit the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII being better than the 360 version).
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Halo 3 looks SO good. I'm really excited to tear through Tsavo Highway over and over again. Not to mention the fun of breaking out of maps like the good ol' days. I really can't wait, it's going to be so much fun.
I did have this on order, but not anymore, after seeing the video & that the original performs better than the revamped version, how the original is not locked 60fpps i simply do not understand, it performs better than the revamped version.
I played the CE version in 3D & it was fantastic!
I'm no longer going to buy this when i still have the original Halo games & the consoles to play them on.
I have Far Cry 4 on the way & also i'm still enjoying Destiny & have just started Bayonetta 2 i have plenty of things to play, i may pick it up when it's cheaper.
I'm disappointed really
How the hell do the "originals" perform better. They are not even close to 1080p/60 except if you play CE and 2 on PC.
SRTtoZ
Member
It's a shame Richard provided no screenshots, especially of Halo 2 Anniversary because even the highish bitrate (33Mbit/sec 60fps) Gamersyde videos aren't great for this. There's not much camera movement at this point.
Halo 2 Classic (1920x1080 noAA)
Halo 2 Anniversary (1328x1080 ppAA)
Are the blacks crushed in the remaster? I want to make sure its not my surface 2.
Portugeezer
Member
360 was a bit more straightforward to develop for than the PS3 however.
Was a lot more, there is a C# framework (XNA) for it... doesn't get more straightforward than that.
AF, yes. AA, only through downsampling.
If you force AA through a graphics control panel, (like nvidia's) it just won't work.
Twin Tails
Member
maybe it gets patched with day 1 update?
These games are so beautiful. It really is a testament to the series' great style.
A massive update is arriving on Wednesday. It'll address single and multi.
A massive update is arriving on Wednesday. It'll address single and multi.
Or a testament to Bungie, but thats not a "cool" thing to say is it?
Come on now... don't play the martyr card.
You'd find that most of HaloGAF agrees that Bungie's art direction is superior (war on color for ex.)
It's not weird. Halo PC uses multiple render targets for their post-processing*, and D3D9 simply does not support MRTs with MSAA. The Mac port didn't have that limitation.
*The Xbox engine was pulling some peculiar tricks in how they handled the same effects that just didn't translate well to the DX APIs at the time.
I stupidly assumed they'd all be a locked 60 fps. Hearing about these drops is depressing and definitely kills a lot of the interest I had in it. A shooter with framerate issues bad enough to affect controller response is not a shooter I want to play. I hate Destiny, but at least it's a solid 30 all the time.
MP.
A testament of the former Bungie, lots of the key talent that shaped Halo is long gone.
!? 0.o Oh no, it dropped from 60 to 58, this game has jutters, if it wasn't for the diagrams on the screen I wouldn't have even known the frame rate had dropped. This is the kind of "drop" you need tools to actually notice, so its kind of... alright, I guess its a big deal.
It's not a huge deal, and I'm picking up the game either way, but the framerate dips in CE and H4 are pretty constant.
H3 is rock solid though. Looking forward to that a lot since I never got to play the original :3
I Eat Thumbtacks
Neo Member
Is Halo 2's MP 1080P?
Well, DDR3 bandwidth speed can swallow original Halo 2 graphics with no sweat!
I'm pretty sure 343i use combination DDR3 for original Halo 2 engine + eSRAM for enhanced engine.
Yes!
I Eat Thumbtacks
Neo Member
Nice!
byron_hinson
Member
Seems to be
Just shin ras pictures have the black crush.
NullPointer
Member
Seems like they really wanted that instant-switch to the original version of the game rather than introduce a delay. Bad call imho.
I wish each game could handle 1080p at 60fps without issues, but that may be a lot to ask from some of these games.
Halo 4's noticeable, gameplay affecting framerate drops stand out as the most problematic issue in the DF analysis.
Halo 3 without jaggies is something I'm really looking forward to.
Doesn't mean cpu it's the cause. Xone struggle to handle 60 fps at 1080p for tons of different reasons quite know from awhile. This is why I'm expected these results. I was quite skeptical when they announced 60 fps target at 1080p.
bananafactory
Banned
I don't know where to ask this question since there's no OT yet, but is the day 1 patch included with my Halo MCC preload?
Am I going to have to wait and DL 20 GB when the game unlocks at 12 ET?
Am I going to have to wait and DL 20 GB when the game unlocks at 12 ET?
NullPointer
Member
The day one content/patch is supposed to be downloaded and ready for the pre-loaded versions before the release date.
bananafactory
Banned
Thanks. Cannot wait.
As for the DF impressions, a bit disappointing for me to be honest, I kind of wish they had just scrapped the dual engine thing, there's no way a 360 remaster of Halo 1 shouldn't hold 60 fps.
But it's such a great value that I'm sure I won't care too much once I start playing.
RedAssedApe
Banned
halo 2 looks a little rough in those screenies posted in this thread. i guess that's the resolution drop due to supporting the engine switching thingie?
Halo 1 is 60FPS in the campaign too, if that is what you are asking.
Yeah, that's why.
RedAssedApe
Banned
you can find better ones that show 60fps with less blocking that do the game more justice
You know that's almost always the case with videogames. There's always something you can improve if you had more time.
Psyrgery ES
Member
It looks quite good in my opinion, 1080p jaggies-free Halo 3 is going to look (and play) fantastic
We have the full campaign unlocked, we just can't talk about anything outside of one mission per game... until Wednesday when the uber patch arrives!