iHaunter
Member
Not saying it's a terrible game, just looks samey.
When you compare weapons/gear to something like Destiny, the genre lends more opportunity for creativity. Just found it a tad dull.
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Division 2 Review Thread
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Not saying it's a terrible game, just looks samey.
When you compare weapons/gear to something like Destiny, the genre lends more opportunity for creativity. Just found it a tad dull.
Silent blades
Member
Played the first got tired of it. Enjoying this one but time will tell.
MastAndo
Member
The VG247 review in does something similar, but there's actually a decent amount of praise for the game - but "unfortunately" it lacks any real political message, apparently. Naturally, that means it lacks the proper political message, as the whole premise is predicated on a pro-gun stance.
Reading the review, I'm not so sure the reviewer was able to get over the "ickiness" of guns and having to shoot digital people over and over. He clarifies in the comments saying "It does have a message, though: "guns are good and violence is a valid solution to problems". It says that without examining it at all." and when someone chimed in saying that describes most shooting games, he retorted "Most shooting games don't open with the line, "Did you own a gun? Did your neighbour?" So yeah, that should tell you all you need to know about the influence of political leanings on the review.
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ethomaz
Banned
Added Spieltimes review in progress.
https://www.spieltimes.com/reviews/the-division-2-review-in-progress-15-hours/
https://www.spieltimes.com/reviews/the-division-2-review-in-progress-15-hours/
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I think the reviews are pretty bang on. Totally worthy of a buy, imo, especially if you enjoyed The Division 1 in its final state. The story in Div 2 is pretty lackluster (I don't even feel like I'm part of any sort of narrative). It just go to this block, do the story mission, get the control points, get the shade tech, do the side missions, move to next block. Head back to the base to unlock skills, Repeat.
I really don't feel like I'm part of any story, but I know what I'm tasked with and I enjoy the grind.
Looking forward to hitting level 30, and gearing up through the World Tiers, farming hard modes for gear sets, and of course doing the Dark Zone
I really don't feel like I'm part of any story, but I know what I'm tasked with and I enjoy the grind.
Looking forward to hitting level 30, and gearing up through the World Tiers, farming hard modes for gear sets, and of course doing the Dark Zone
ethomaz
Banned
Meta scores updated... 79 MC / 80 OC.
WOW PC dropped 2 points already.
The people that were mocking the game sub-80 meta, concern-trolling or industry analysts saying that it was expected, where are they now?
(hopefuly, enjoying the game too!)
WOW PC dropped 2 points already.
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MastAndo
Member
Well, that's bound to happen when your review blurb for a looter shooter reads like this;
"Variety - It’s remorseless violence, repetitious and ingrained after only a few hours. The Division 2 becomes a passive activity, blind to basic narrative technique and crass in form. No characters stand out, no personalities prove memorable, while the ultimate purpose seems to only instill an eventual tyranny. "
...and you slap a score of 40 on it.
EDIT: I don't even want to bother linking to it, but the review mentioning Tucker Carlos 4 times should also tell you something.
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Ballthyrm
Member
I bet the same reviewer wouldn't think twice of doing the exact same thing(shooting everything that move) in Last of Us and give it a 95.
manfestival
Member
ok I am 13 hours into the game and... this political agenda isn't really striking me like these reviewers are supposedly claiming. The game seems fairly neutral(as far as agendas go) actually... I am also the kinda person to eyeroll when I see something that could even be construed as a political motivator/agenda pusher. The gun mention in the opening cinematic made me laugh at its absurdity but that was where that ended.
I thought review bombing was supposed to be for the users and not the so called journos.
I thought review bombing was supposed to be for the users and not the so called journos.
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NickFire
Member
ethomaz
Banned
Somebody give the game a 40/100? Ohhh God.
Aren117
Member
It actually went up 2?
Maybe you should include the PC score in the OP too, because it's the vastly superior version (framerate, graphics, controls)
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ethomaz
Banned
Dragon Lord
Member
What in your opinion made it better?
Eotheod
Member
Yeah the whole "did you have a gun?" "your neighbour did" lines are not political in any fucking sense and I'm Australian. It's literally saying "hey world is going to shit and if you can't survive you are dead." It isn't pro guns in the fucking slightest outside of it being a bloody Tom Clancy game and the whole premise of that series is military.
When the world goes to shit you just know the people who lament a video game for having guns and shooting digital pixels are going to die first.
When the world goes to shit you just know the people who lament a video game for having guns and shooting digital pixels are going to die first.
Eotheod
Member
Because I apparently ran out of time to edit I'm gonna double post to give you some information.
If you enjoyed the original but wanted more tactics to encounters, better enemy variety that handles health bars not as sponges but as situational exposure through tactics, weapon modding until your heart is content, actual skill variety that can influence combat instead of just be a number bonus, side missions that actually have story to them, oddly enough not as much atypical Ubisoft capture points but instead bolstering settlements, end game has tiers that when unlocked will influence the world for everyone and just some really fucking fun gameplay.
Also they have made the movement so much better, it's smooth and responsive and just fun.
Shai-Tan
Banned
gun control is contingent on agents of the government having a (near) monopoly on violence. i don't know if anyone has actually tried to run with that line
anyway, I don't like loot shooters with the exception of Borderlands so I'm a bit meh so far on the game but I'm going to try to spend some time to get into it as much as possible because I bought it to play with my brother. I'm hoping the gunplay gets better with upgrades
anyway, I don't like loot shooters with the exception of Borderlands so I'm a bit meh so far on the game but I'm going to try to spend some time to get into it as much as possible because I bought it to play with my brother. I'm hoping the gunplay gets better with upgrades
Dthomp
Member
I think the reviews are pretty bang on. Totally worthy of a buy, imo, especially if you enjoyed The Division 1 in its final state. The story in Div 2 is pretty lackluster (I don't even feel like I'm part of any sort of narrative). It just go to this block, do the story mission, get the control points, get the shade tech, do the side missions, move to next block. Head back to the base to unlock skills, Repeat.
I really don't feel like I'm part of any story, but I know what I'm tasked with and I enjoy the grind.
Looking forward to hitting level 30, and gearing up through the World Tiers, farming hard modes for gear sets, and of course doing the Dark Zone
I feel the same. I am enjoying Division 2 but at no point is anything story wise even sticking in my head halfway through the current mission, which is kind of fine cause I'm having fun and there is tons of loot (Destiny 2 could learn from this). I just hit level 17 I think last night so got a ways to go before hitting max and needing to worry bout loadouts.
I'd give it something around an 8.5 if I was a reviewer though. Well worth the money and you'll get alot of play out of this over the year with the free content drops too.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Holy shit talk about reviews are totally off..whose playing these games nowadays?! "Professionall" journalists, gtfo ..Terrible.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Actual Reviews as opposed to SJW drive-by hit pieces. Funny that there were people trying to use those shit reviews to drag this game down. General consensus is that The Division 2 is better than the first game, the most stable loot shooter on release, and possibly the best loot shooter on the market...already in just the first week:
That's about where I rate the game. PC critics and gamers usually judge games a little harder, but in this case the low-IQ console review nut bags tried to drag it down. If it had full story maybe with branch dialogue, even with silent protagonist, just for the choice...this would be a masterpiece. Cyberpunk will deliver something like that, but probably without the massive online and co-op/mp focus.
That's about where I rate the game. PC critics and gamers usually judge games a little harder, but in this case the low-IQ console review nut bags tried to drag it down. If it had full story maybe with branch dialogue, even with silent protagonist, just for the choice...this would be a masterpiece. Cyberpunk will deliver something like that, but probably without the massive online and co-op/mp focus.
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Revolutionary
Member
Prepare yourselves for the worst review ever written. Presented in an archive link because fuck giving Variety clicks.
http://archive.fo/BCk0x
Dude is completely obsessed with Tucker Carlson and it overshadows his entire time with the game.
http://archive.fo/BCk0x
Dude is completely obsessed with Tucker Carlson and it overshadows his entire time with the game.
The3DGameArtist
Member
Yeah I read it, it's such a crappy review, the size of an email and doesn't really say anything about the game. It's like...I have an opinion about something and I need a game to cover it up with. xD
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
My biggest issue with the game is a lack of a compelling narrative. It's not necessarily needed in a loot driven game where the main carrot on the stick is getting better gear rather than having a gripping story that has you dying to find out what happens next, but I just wish we could have both. Maybe it has one buried in the echos and collectibles like the original did.
Other than that, I'm absolutely loving the game. Huge improvement over the first one.
Other than that, I'm absolutely loving the game. Huge improvement over the first one.
PerfectDark
Banned
I don't know what kind of game The Division 2 is or trying to be. I thought it was live service game like Destiny, where it has a story you progress and level through as you loot gear and level up skills. But they have dailies and group missions that go up in in difficulty that you keep doing. PVP and loot in the dark zone. I came into this game thinking its a game you can play everyday. Not what I expected at end game. I feel there is no end game at all. I have nothing to do and had to stop playing. My brother and friends I played with also stopped playing days ago. We had fun and want to play more there just is nothing else to do.
Problem is it takes nothing to get best gear and when you do theres nothing to play for. You don't find loot for alts, or need to reroll a new class and play. Game is just over. You can do some little things but the main game is over. There is nothing to grind. PVP is pointless. Dark zone is suppose to offer best loot and have high risk. But gear means nothing so defeats the purpose of DZ.
I bought $100 gold version on PC. If I had a time machine I would of passed on the game at release. I would of let them iron out the bugs and release tier 5 or some DLC and buy it on sale. I would of bought it on my xb1x instead. Just played solo and enjoyed it as a story game and took my time.
i thought this would be a competitive loot, pvp game so I got it on PC played the crap out of it to get ahead for pvp whcih meant nothing.
If I am giving the game a score 1-10 for a story game you beat and move onto another game I give it a 8/10. Its very repetitive. If I am rating the game as a live service game like destiny, or mmo type shooter I give it a 5/10 and would say avoid unless they add a amazing end game.
Problem is it takes nothing to get best gear and when you do theres nothing to play for. You don't find loot for alts, or need to reroll a new class and play. Game is just over. You can do some little things but the main game is over. There is nothing to grind. PVP is pointless. Dark zone is suppose to offer best loot and have high risk. But gear means nothing so defeats the purpose of DZ.
I bought $100 gold version on PC. If I had a time machine I would of passed on the game at release. I would of let them iron out the bugs and release tier 5 or some DLC and buy it on sale. I would of bought it on my xb1x instead. Just played solo and enjoyed it as a story game and took my time.
i thought this would be a competitive loot, pvp game so I got it on PC played the crap out of it to get ahead for pvp whcih meant nothing.
If I am giving the game a score 1-10 for a story game you beat and move onto another game I give it a 8/10. Its very repetitive. If I am rating the game as a live service game like destiny, or mmo type shooter I give it a 5/10 and would say avoid unless they add a amazing end game.
-MD-
Member
If The Division even approached a 90 on meta the industry would be in trouble, these games are generic as fuck.
79 is generous.
PerfectDark
Banned
I think the Devs said in stream today only 10% of player base hit level 30. I hit level 30 in 2 days like 20hrs playtime with my friends. 28hrs In I had 450 gear score which is max. Spent 8hrs in DZ solo and farmed hundreds of 450 gs loot and geared my guy up with best gear game offers. After that I had best items you could get. I got to max dark zone level 50 in about 10hrs in there. Everything else I did was littl epointless things trying to find stuff to do.
I played with my brother and 2 friends. We all are no longer playing as theres nothing to do. We are waiting on more content. Myself I think I am just going to move on forget the game find something else to play. Don't think this game will ever offer me more then a day or two of playtime once all dlc and updates release.
I played with my brother and 2 friends. We all are no longer playing as theres nothing to do. We are waiting on more content. Myself I think I am just going to move on forget the game find something else to play. Don't think this game will ever offer me more then a day or two of playtime once all dlc and updates release.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Edit: Not falling for the bait.
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Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Sounds like you had a great time with the game, congrats!
And yes, it’s a shame a single game cannot entertain us forever. Fucking lazy devs.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
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Insane Metal
Member
Absolutely, the game is incredible. A big step up from the first game in every way. Whatever, let the SJWs have fun 'reviewing' the game, I'll have fun playing
PerfectDark
Banned
Was fun leveling because I was excited for end game, pvp and loot grinding. Game offers none of this. I wouldnt even call this a loot game. You don't find good loot. You get a loot score and the game gives your the same items just a couple % better. If you have a chest with a gear score of 400. Next time you loot a chest it will have a gear score of 400-410. So now after hr of playing all your gear is 400-410. Now your gear that drops will be 410-420. If you play with other people who are 450 gear score they can just drop you 450 items and all yours drops will be 450 as well.
End game is as stupid as I ever played in a game. So yes I enjoyed the game until I got to the end and disapointment set in. If i knew what I know now I would of never bought the game. If the game was so fun I would level a new character. I wouldn't level a new guy if someone paid me.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Why is the Xbox version so much worse than the PS4 version?
ethomaz
Banned
Spieltimes updated they review-in-progress.
Spieltimes 8/10 "The Division 2 is a breath of fresh air in a crowded genre. It’s not trying to reinvent the loot shooter, and it doesn’t need to. Instead, Ubisoft has focused on carefully refining and polishing the base elements of gameplay. The excellent shooting and dynamic cover system. The wide variety of enemy types. The diverse and thrilling encounters with effective level design. When you add it all up, you get a truly special game. It’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination: they need to work on its technical issues, and the story is barely there and completely forgettable. But its story isn’t what The Division 2 is all about: it’s about exploring this destroyed city with friends and blasting your way through tense, challenging battles. Expect to get around thirty hours from the main campaign, and dozens more from endgame. Ubisoft has made a game that’s jam-packed with content, and they should be rewarded for it: The Division 2 is worth playing for anyone even remotely interested in the genre."
Spieltimes 8/10 "The Division 2 is a breath of fresh air in a crowded genre. It’s not trying to reinvent the loot shooter, and it doesn’t need to. Instead, Ubisoft has focused on carefully refining and polishing the base elements of gameplay. The excellent shooting and dynamic cover system. The wide variety of enemy types. The diverse and thrilling encounters with effective level design. When you add it all up, you get a truly special game. It’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination: they need to work on its technical issues, and the story is barely there and completely forgettable. But its story isn’t what The Division 2 is all about: it’s about exploring this destroyed city with friends and blasting your way through tense, challenging battles. Expect to get around thirty hours from the main campaign, and dozens more from endgame. Ubisoft has made a game that’s jam-packed with content, and they should be rewarded for it: The Division 2 is worth playing for anyone even remotely interested in the genre."
Aren117
Member
I'm almost at Lv30, finally, after 32h of gameplay. There's plenty of activities to do, didn't touch Dark Zone and Bounties yet, I'm cleaning the missions, projects and SHD caches, while also helping some distress calls from other players.
The game is a blast. Can't wait to start making builds. Seems easier this time around too, with the more streamlined skills. Some things are still a bit confusing, but I'll take my time to learn.
My only pet peev until now is how rare is to find cosmetics now, and no Level Scaling to lower levels.
As now, the game is a solid 8/10 for me.
The game is a blast. Can't wait to start making builds. Seems easier this time around too, with the more streamlined skills. Some things are still a bit confusing, but I'll take my time to learn.
My only pet peev until now is how rare is to find cosmetics now, and no Level Scaling to lower levels.
As now, the game is a solid 8/10 for me.
SkinnerSw33t
Member
Yeah a lot more options with builds this time, and we haven't even seen the gear sets (as opposed to brand sets.)
Glad to see this game reviewing well!
Glad to see this game reviewing well!
Sygma
Member
game is once again unfinished and the only thing they improved upon is on the dynamic aspect of the world. its still riddled with bugs, skill power shit just like in div 1 is all over the place and the PvE hasn't evolved one bit. There's NOTHING new outside the black tusk robot dog / drones flying at you. No new mechanics or anything in the missions, like what the hell man, you just had to follow up on Last Signal from Division 1 and offer MORE of that. This is not a benchmark of anything
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ALIEN-gunner
Member
I want to play this now!
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
SkinnerSw33t
Member
The Angry Joe review is bad (misinformation). But they were actually generally favorable about the game (7/10) so there's that.
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