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DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz to step down, Joining Clinton campaign
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Brolic Gaoler
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Title is missing the biggest and most shameful part. She's joining Hilary's campaign
Vanillalite
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It's not just optics.
One of the things DWS explicitly sucked at was a 50 state campaign, and now they hired her to help with a 50 state campaign.
Yes I'm aware it's not really all 50 states equally.
She is not the Clinton campaign manager. The job is to get a democratic nominee to be president yes, but it also is to promote democratic party ideals, to promote state and local democratic officials. She has to be inpartial when there is a nomination process going on. She is far too corrupt coupled with the fact that the emails are also showing they were willing to stoop to anti-semitism.
metalslimer
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It's some throwaway position She won't be some big part of the campaign
boiled goose
good with gravy
Uh. No. I just wish politics was either less corrupt or more transparent.
Folks like Matt apparently still believe that DNC was not backing Clinton from the start haha. Imagine if leaks from the Sanders camp had staffers considering feeding misogynistic narratives to media. Oh lawd. The outrage on Gaf would be insane.
To me, DWS getting a job from Clinton after this scandal is a humongous conflict of interest. Play ball. Get hired.
Here's a hypothetical question. Let's say the party chair favored one candidate. They fed favorable narratives to the media about such candidate and unfavorable narratives about opponent. They also scheduled debates in a manner that favored preferred candidate. After leaks of emails, chair gets canned but gets new job from favored candidate. Would that be corruption? It certainly makes me uncomfortable.
legacyzero
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And now she's with the Clinton Campaign? The irony is too good.
And Trump is going to use this shit so hard. "Hillary has a corrupt former chair-person on her campaign! But Hillary is corrupt too! So that's ok!"
And Trump is going to use this shit so hard. "Hillary has a corrupt former chair-person on her campaign! But Hillary is corrupt too! So that's ok!"
this is the truth.
Uh. No. I just wish politics was either less corrupt or more transparent.
Folks like Matt apparently still believe that DNC was not backing Clinton from the start haha.
To me, DWS getting a job from Clinton after this scandal is a humongous conflict of interest. Play ball. Get hired.
Here's a hypothetical question. Let's say the party chair favored one candidate. They fed favorable narratives to the media about such candidate and unfavorable narratives about opponent. They also scheduled debates in a manner that favored preferred candidate. After leaks of emails, chair gets canned but gets new job from favored candidate. Would that be corruption? It certainly makes me uncomfortable.
But they didn't...
metalslimer
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Uh. No. I just wish politics was either less corrupt or more transparent.
Folks like Matt apparently still believe that DNC was not backing Clinton from the start haha.
To me, DWS getting a job from Clinton after this scandal is a humongous conflict of interest. Play ball. Get hired.
Here's a hypothetical question. Let's say the party chair favored one candidate. They fed favorable narratives to the media about such candidate and unfavorable narratives about opponent. They also scheduled debates in a manner that favored preferred candidate. After leaks of emails, chair gets canned but gets new job from favored candidate. Would that be corruption? It certainly makes me uncomfortable.
How is that corrpution? It's a campaign not a political office.
Edit: And as DNC chair she would have been working for the Clinton campaign to get her elected anyway...
Vire
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That's probably out the window at this point to be honest now that this stuff is out there... Would be a real bad look for Clinton, but I guess it would matter much once she's already elected.
FreedomFighter
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DWS stepping down needs to be the beginning of a massive purge. It cannot end with her resigning.
She's getting a mighty good trolling on Twitter. But Chris Dodd is getting it even worse.
She's getting a mighty good trolling on Twitter. But Chris Dodd is getting it even worse.
Was it talked about in the emails? Cause I remember the debate thing being a big fuss that 6 debates or something wasn't enough, even though the number later got changed upwards.
jack_package_200
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That doesn't matter. She didn't like Bernie.
Hillary has to cut her out of the party or else.
She lost her speaking position and is stepping down. So fucking what if she is helping on the campaign to stop the fucking white supremacists from taking the white house.
User 85168
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Bernie's statement
I love that folks still claim that the debate thing is somehow tilted.
Does Hillary do better on certain nights? Do TV broadcasts to receptive Bernie voters fuzz-out on certain days? Did DWS figure-out that Bernie get a +10% Personality boost on certain moon phases? How does this magic work?
Does Hillary do better on certain nights? Do TV broadcasts to receptive Bernie voters fuzz-out on certain days? Did DWS figure-out that Bernie get a +10% Personality boost on certain moon phases? How does this magic work?
Vire
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I think it's a matter of semantics and that's where we are getting tripped up. DNC = DWS as the buck ultimately stops with her. Which is why I was saying she was ultimately responsible for the corruption that took place during the process of the primaries and then Y2Kev proceeded to call people who criticized the DNC as diablos republicans. I know it's in jest, but it struck a cord of annoyance with me. I apologize for that.
jack_package_200
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Bernie's statement
This should be enough but it sadly won't be enough for some.
Good on Bernie for this statement
Bernie's statement
Good on him for not bringing drama into the statement.
ebullientprism
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Are they deliberately trying to look bad? Like did no one tell them it will look shady as fuck?
Couldnt they have waited for like 6 months before drafting her?
Sho_Nuff82
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Completely missing the point. She's political baggage at this point, no matter how potentially useful she is or how many favors she's owed.
RPGCrazied
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jack_package_200
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Sho_Nuff82
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No, it plays directly into Trump's "Crooked Hillary" campaign tactics. Again, it's completely tone deaf to not see this.
And_Gignac
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I can already see the negative ads.
Sounds like politics as usual in a nutshell. The level of contempt from the public is directly related to the level of support and commitment to the candidate. In this case Clinton supporters will see nothing wrong here and try to downplay it or "explain' it to others. If the situation was flipped they would be in an uproar and Bernie supporters would think nothing of it. Round and round we go.
legacyzero
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It's bad optics. They couldn't have waited until after Nov to give her something.
If DWS is the best Trump can do, Trump already lost.
It's completely being politcially inept if you don't see it.
I guarantee if the leaks continue DSW will quickly resign but not before this honorary position is used as an attack on Hillary - this election is truly amateur hour
They contribute to my statement.
They contribute to my statement.
It also keeps her "involved" so they can call her up w/ questions and stuff without risking any issues with breaking election rules and such.
Hillary needs Bernie supporters more than ever. Why do people assume the presidency will be a walk in the park? It would be sheer stupidity for Hillary to have someone like DWS join her campaign now. She is poison in the eyes of the non-Hillary voters now. She needs to win over as many Bernie supporters, independents, and maybe even anti-Trump republicans. She doesn't need people like Debbie to be with the campaign. In just a matter of days we've gone from her calling out Reince Preibus for not knowing how to run a convention to only speaking for a little bit, to not speaking at all, to flat out resigning by the end.
More armateur hour then Bernie or Trump?
Why would the current Bernie supportor in her camp turn now? Are they so not caring about Bernie's goal of stopping Trump?
And_Gignac
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Clueless, ugh.
Orbis Tabula
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I mean, I think Bernie Sanders has probably gotten more concessions from the party and the winner than any losing presidential candidate in party history (which, hooray! Because that's who I voted for) so I'm not terribly torn up about the way this has played out. If the DNC is corrupt, they're also pretty incompetent at being corrupt considering how the primary ended up playing out.
Clinton hiring DWS immediately is stupid. The kind of dumb things I hate that she has a tendency to do. It certainly doesn't help us. But not so stupid that it's worth entertaining the notion of voting against Clinton. Hopefully the new DNC chair does a better job and DWS is shuttered away to a pointless vanity role.
Clinton hiring DWS immediately is stupid. The kind of dumb things I hate that she has a tendency to do. It certainly doesn't help us. But not so stupid that it's worth entertaining the notion of voting against Clinton. Hopefully the new DNC chair does a better job and DWS is shuttered away to a pointless vanity role.
RPGCrazied
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Have you seen Trumps numbers with women and minorities? Just saying. Its not looking good for him. Even with this drama.
Vire
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Well that's just idiotic on her part then, why on earth would they announce that now? It only further fuels the corruption narrative. Sweep that shit under the rug until once you are elected and then make a hush hush move by giving her a job somewhere after the fact.
Will people really care about the details though?
At any rate, it's a pretty huge demotion nonetheless...
You don't seem to take criticism of Hillary Clinton well.
It's kinda ironic for him to complain about that when he's hiring Roger Ailes who is literally accused of sexual harassment.
Good lord. Way to completely undercut the resignation.
Mighty Chin
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It should be immediately.
No one seems to be able to answer my questions.
And coming from some of the long time Bernie supporters posting here? That's a laugh.
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