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DNC suspends Sanders campaign access to database after staff breached Hillary's data
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teruterubozu
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To a few Dems. Most voters don't know him at all.
Most voters can't find their ass with both hands and a searchlight.
teruterubozu
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Wellthereitis
TheLostBigBoss
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is this the preview of what happens to Bernie supporters when he loses the nom?
Furthermore the articles I linked in the OP state that Bernie's goons created the lists from scratch using information they gathered during the breach. But they didn't "export" the lists wholesale so apparently that's alright? He's arguing semantics when we have the director's confession on tape. It's fucking mindblowing!
Dude, why do you have to powerbomb others into the ground?
I was trying to help! They seemed frustrated.
EatinOlives
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This is an obvious fuckup by Uretsky and anyone trying to argue otherwise is absolutely fooling themselves. It was not his call to investigate the extent of the vulnerability, it was VAN's IT. Even if he conducted the unauthorized access in good faith, it's a fuckup through and through and he should've known better than to stick his nose into data that he clearly is not allowed to access.
The campaign is unfortunately going to suffer between Uretsky's genius idea and everyone else spinning it in the worst possible way (the GOP will undoubtedly barf out some dumb statement about how "Bernie himself will do this with his socialist commie for EVERYONE's information" or some shit). It's not Bernie's fault other than hiring someone who would later have gigantic lapses in judgment, but at the same time campaign fuckups always look bad on the head honcho even if it wasn't his/her fault at the end of the day.
EDIT: And the people using this to sneak in some half-witted conspiracy theories to shit on Clinton yet again for the 89 millionth time is beyond laughable. (the people who are serious, not the troll/joke posts)
The campaign is unfortunately going to suffer between Uretsky's genius idea and everyone else spinning it in the worst possible way (the GOP will undoubtedly barf out some dumb statement about how "Bernie himself will do this with his socialist commie for EVERYONE's information" or some shit). It's not Bernie's fault other than hiring someone who would later have gigantic lapses in judgment, but at the same time campaign fuckups always look bad on the head honcho even if it wasn't his/her fault at the end of the day.
EDIT: And the people using this to sneak in some half-witted conspiracy theories to shit on Clinton yet again for the 89 millionth time is beyond laughable. (the people who are serious, not the troll/joke posts)
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Don't you think the swiftness in them coming out and then this interview w/ MSNBC (of all networks, easily the most left-leaning) is a bit suspect? I mean this is like some inverse Star Wars thing, Bernie's playing the role of Darth Vader in rewind type of shit. It's so ironically swift this whole thing it's actually hilarious.
Doesn't make any of it better though.
No. He just has a record of staying consistent on his views and ideologies for that length of time.
Unlike Hilary.
It's not going to be pretty.
excelsiorlef
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Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Watching Fox News when Hillary is elected is my most anticipated event of 2016
scoobidoo112
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Instead of acting all arrogant you could listen to your oh so holy video. If you actually listened to it yourself instead of just angrily screaming about it because it's in the OP in bright red letters, you would have heard:
Which is why I pointed you to the official VAN blog where they explain this Votebuilder system and what took place, so, again:
Again, read the update at the top of the page, where they explain what "data" means in this context. No data was exported. They stored something they shouldn't have been able to store within the VAN system, not outside of it. They claim to have done this to prove a bug and if that is actually true (which time will tell) then this was all a nonsense issue.
He's pragmatic on gun control.
JesseEwiak
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It's weird how being pragmatic on other issues, such as education, means you're a neoliberal corporate sellout to Bernie supporters, though.
Karl Rove having a stroke on live TV would be pretty outstanding.
And DNC Convention NIght will be phenomenal.
RNC Convention Night will be stellar.
All around a great election.
Dude Abides
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This fuckup is not a big deal objectively but Bernie's campaign and fans seem determined to make it one.
And it's weird how being pragmatic on this issue is a huge sin to those who try to paint their cynicism on pretty much every other issue as pragmatism. It's almost like it's complete bullshit or something.
Oh no. The guy that did this should be fired.
You don't get it. The Bernie staffer didn't use the function in the VAN to export the data.
I've used it before, and it basically pulls up a long list in a browser. It's not software, it's a web application. In other words, you can just easily use "Save Page" to get the data. As long as you don't refresh the results page and you don't close your browser or computer, you'll have it on your pc. You can copy and paste the text from the served-up webpage with Hillary campaign data into Excel. You can save the page. You can print screen the whole list.
In other words, the campaign didn't use the VAN's function to export data, but they could copy and save the data through other means. Which is what they admitted.
You don't use 5 different accounts and query 24 lists from Hillary campaign data to prove a bug. You don't start giving 4 accounts additional permissions so they can test a bug. If that's the case why didn't they try querying O'Malley's data?
Man I so dont get the devotion to Hillary from people. She's flopped on big issues and her main opponent is a guy with an honorable history. I mean how does she inspire such blind devotion? She's got the appeal of a piece of wet cardboard, yet people are in here all to happy to denounce Bernie and remind everyone that he's lower in some polls.
I dont get it.
I dont get it.
talisayNon
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this is like
Veep come to life.
OMG
Veep come to life.
OMG
The "bereaved mothers" thing was the first thing that came to my mind.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Less than 10 weeks until we can concentrate on Hillary vs. Rubio or whoever.
First step would be to realize that being able to admit that a guy in Bernies camp doing something stupid != "Devotion to Hillary".
The only relevance Hillary has to this story at all is that someone was stealing something that belonged to her. Beyond that she is completely irrelevant to this specific issue.
It will be great for everyone no matter who gets the nom. This shit is starting to grate. I cant take the lunacy anymore. Thank god this shit is almost over and we will be able to focus on the general.
YoYo Switch
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I'm not gonna say I'm 100 percent in the Bernie camp
But I do want to throw in my two cents: he's the only candidate on either side who is not a lunatic when it comes to gun control
That's what I thought when I woke up and saw this thread
Oh no, you've already lost all hope and made some revisionist history about how you won all your arguments!
Check out your local candidates and donate your time or money to them instead.
Your two posts in this topic about Bernie's campaign's fuck up are about Hillary. Something on your mind?
Vire
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If you want to document the depth of the breach, why would you have four different accounts all logging into the opposing side's database and copying as much information as possible in the time that it was down.
Get the fuck outta here.
If you were truly upset that it kept happening over and over, go to the media and make a big stink about it.
Very disappointed considering I was planning on voting Bernie in the democratic primaries, but it seems that his campaign is no better than the rest of them. Ultimately unsurprising though.
Get the fuck outta here.
If you were truly upset that it kept happening over and over, go to the media and make a big stink about it.
Very disappointed considering I was planning on voting Bernie in the democratic primaries, but it seems that his campaign is no better than the rest of them. Ultimately unsurprising though.
EatinOlives
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Let's be fair, this is one guy acting like a dumbass upon realizing there was an issue. It's really not representative of Bernie or his platform.
Right. As if the thread wasnt already full of Hillary trolls gloating and getting in their licks.
We don't get you guys either. Would it literally kill you to admit your boy fucked up?
Say what? Not sure which part of my post you're addressing.
Clinton supporters are generally hypocrites with regard to "pragmatism"
The guy who did the deed deserved to be fired, as he promptly was.
Not sure how I'm revising history with those opinions...
Yes, because they're clinging onto an idea.
excelsiorlef
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You're acting like the press conference didn't happen.
But we're pretty far past that now. The way Bernie's campaign has handled this is atrocious. Saying no data was copied, saying they're going to sue the DNC, like seriously? This is the worst way they could go about this.
OuterLimits
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Wonder if this will come up in the debate tomorrow. Btw, I find it hilarious that the Dem debate is once again happening on Saturday. Tomorrow night it is competing against an NFL football game even. Lol, great job DNC.
The delusions, vitriol, and conspiracy theories erupting up from the cult-ier circles of the Sanders devotees over this are pretty crazy. Reddit is hilarious right now. Might as well be on Trump's team.
I'm one of the people who likes Bernie but knows he's a pipe dream, and also likes Hillary. The basic facts of this "scandal" aren't even that big of a deal IMO but the reactions....yikes.
Of course the Hillary camp went after Obama in 2008 too, but nothing like this. The Wrestlemania-ization of our political process is insane.
edit: now I'm seeing tons of love and "true american hero" "always a trustworthy, honorable dude" comments about Jim Webb because he attacked Hillary. When they all considered him to be a conservative, crazy, asshole until yesterday. Lol.
I'm one of the people who likes Bernie but knows he's a pipe dream, and also likes Hillary. The basic facts of this "scandal" aren't even that big of a deal IMO but the reactions....yikes.
Of course the Hillary camp went after Obama in 2008 too, but nothing like this. The Wrestlemania-ization of our political process is insane.
edit: now I'm seeing tons of love and "true american hero
" "always a trustworthy, honorable dude" comments about Jim Webb because he attacked Hillary. When they all considered him to be a conservative, crazy, asshole until yesterday. Lol.MESS
ErasureAcer
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Sorry marijuana users. No federal repeal because Vire is upset the DNC and its vendor did nothing in 2 months to sure up their data system. You think you have your priorities straight?
Dude Abides
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This seems...rash.
So they do something wrong and now they want 75k? Only in politics!
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