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Doctor Strange |OT| By the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth
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I'm really horrible at ranking these things, but probably somewhere in between. He looks great when he's doing his thing, but he comes off really one dimensional with his lack of dialogue. The one good dialogue scene was pretty good though, even if it still left his motivation.. lacking.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
latter... actually wait, he was pretty much boring, a non-entity of a villain
H2intensity
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Just finished watched it. The effects are spectacular and most imaginative in MCU but story wise, it kind of flat.
Cumberbatch is a great actor but he seems not enjoying his role this time.
Overall it still entertaining although not as great Iron Man or Captain Americ, its not as bad as Thor or Hulk. I think Ant Man is the closest things to compare.
Cumberbatch is a great actor but he seems not enjoying his role this time.
Overall it still entertaining although not as great Iron Man or Captain Americ, its not as bad as Thor or Hulk. I think Ant Man is the closest things to compare.
IdreamofHIME
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Best fights in the MCU to date, God the effects were so good.
Really really enjoyed it. Best introduction MCU movie so far.
Loved the
, just amazing.
Refreshing to have an asshole hero too. Tony is snarky, but damn Strange is a real know it all prick. Typical surgeon.
Rachel McAdams is the only low point, they gave her absolutely nothing to do. She's a spare wheel throughout. Disappointing.
Really really enjoyed it. Best introduction MCU movie so far.
Loved the
time loop deaths
Refreshing to have an asshole hero too. Tony is snarky, but damn Strange is a real know it all prick. Typical surgeon.
Rachel McAdams is the only low point, they gave her absolutely nothing to do. She's a spare wheel throughout. Disappointing.
That's disappointing but basically what I expected when Feige described her as being Strange's tether to the real world. Collider did an interview with Feige a few weeks ago and asked how McAdams would be different from the typical superhero girlfriend, and he just ignored the question :lol
Not enough screen time. There was something there to develop, he could have been a tragic hero figure but they wasted it, I kind of understand it actually since I don't feel they needed to cut anything to give him more screen time, they just needed the film to be longer.
So I just got back from seeing this less than an hour ago, and I have to say that on the whole...I was pretty disappointed with it. Although it had a handful of some nice moments, it was definitely far, far lesser than the sum of its parts.
Pros:
-Some really nice visuals, and not just in terms of the film's special effects. The film was really complimented by some great set design and costume work, that was both colorful and imaginative.
-Tilda Swinton, unsurprisingly, was brilliant.
Cons:
-Even though I usually like him as an actor, I thought Benedict Cumberbatch turned in a pretty poor performance as Strange. Very awkward and hesitant, he seemed to struggle with some of the more emotional material he was given. Plus, even speaking as an Englishman, I found his American accent distractingly terrible. It's really bad.
-Very rushed story in addition to flimsy, bland and uninspired characterization.
-Another incredibly weak Marvel villain in the form of Kaecilius. An extremely, dull by the numbers villain who follows the usual kind of motivations. An utterly forgettable antagonist.
-As predicted, as the obligatory love interest, Rachel McAdams's character is utterly worthless and gets given absolutely nothing of interest to do, so much so she just abruptly exits the film without another word before the third act kicks off. You could have removed her from the film entirely and nothing would have changed.
-Really awkward, not particularly funny comedic beats constantly crop up inappropriately during dramatic moments. It feels like many jokes were shoe-horned into the film at the last minute in a hurried attempt to make the film "lighter", without thinking about how they disrupt the dramatic tone of any given scene. (For example, a goofy joke immediately is exchanged after a character is brutally killed off which ultimately ruins the overall tone of the scene).
-The film's climactic battle is far too chaotic and ends much too abruptly.
So yeah, speaking as someone who was really looking forward to this film, I felt pretty let down. Tilda Swinton was great though.
6/10.
Pros:
-Some really nice visuals, and not just in terms of the film's special effects. The film was really complimented by some great set design and costume work, that was both colorful and imaginative.
-Tilda Swinton, unsurprisingly, was brilliant.
Cons:
-Even though I usually like him as an actor, I thought Benedict Cumberbatch turned in a pretty poor performance as Strange. Very awkward and hesitant, he seemed to struggle with some of the more emotional material he was given. Plus, even speaking as an Englishman, I found his American accent distractingly terrible. It's really bad.
-Very rushed story in addition to flimsy, bland and uninspired characterization.
-Another incredibly weak Marvel villain in the form of Kaecilius. An extremely, dull by the numbers villain who follows the usual kind of motivations. An utterly forgettable antagonist.
-As predicted, as the obligatory love interest, Rachel McAdams's character is utterly worthless and gets given absolutely nothing of interest to do, so much so she just abruptly exits the film without another word before the third act kicks off. You could have removed her from the film entirely and nothing would have changed.
-Really awkward, not particularly funny comedic beats constantly crop up inappropriately during dramatic moments. It feels like many jokes were shoe-horned into the film at the last minute in a hurried attempt to make the film "lighter", without thinking about how they disrupt the dramatic tone of any given scene. (For example, a goofy joke immediately is exchanged after a character is brutally killed off which ultimately ruins the overall tone of the scene).
-The film's climactic battle is far too chaotic and ends much too abruptly.
So yeah, speaking as someone who was really looking forward to this film, I felt pretty let down. Tilda Swinton was great though.
6/10.
Weird, excluding the part about Cumberbatch I actually agree with everything you said, and I'd probably give it a higher score, around 8 I'd say.
I don't know I was just so charmed by the visuals and how creative most of the sequences are, I really enjoyed it and it felt fresh to me.
Oh and a bit of spoiler talk, about the climax I actually think it's pretty fucking great excluding
how sudden Madds death is, all the stuff with Dromanu's sequence was great, watching strange die and say that line over and over again got a big laugh out of me and I could see Dan Harmons writing all over it (very Rick and Morty esk.
I did definitely like that part, but it still struck me as rather illogical. What guarantee is there that Dormammu would even keep his word after Strange leaves? As some kind of celestial, god-like being, why would Dormammu even feel the need to keep up his end of the "bargain"? That, and Strange just brushing past Madds in the final fight felt really unsatisfying to me.
I really enjoyed the movie, much more than I had expected, but I have to agree that Rachel McAdams' part/role was almost insulting.
I agree, but then again, not everything has to make sense in a movie like this.
I agree, but then again, not everything has to make sense in a movie like this.
Are we doing rankings now?
Top Tier
Civil War
Guardians of the Galaxy
Winter Soldier
Avengers
High Tier
Antman
Iron Man
Captain America
Mid Tier
Doctor Strange
Age of Ultron
Iron Man 3
Iron Man 2
Low Tier
Incredible Hulk
Thor
Bottom Tier
Thor 2: The Dark World
Ask me tomorrow and I might swap Cap 1 and Strange around. Doctor Strange really does make the Thor movies look like trash.
Top Tier
Civil War
Guardians of the Galaxy
Winter Soldier
Avengers
High Tier
Antman
Iron Man
Captain America
Mid Tier
Doctor Strange
Age of Ultron
Iron Man 3
Iron Man 2
Low Tier
Incredible Hulk
Thor
Bottom Tier
Thor 2: The Dark World
Ask me tomorrow and I might swap Cap 1 and Strange around. Doctor Strange really does make the Thor movies look like trash.
Glass Rebel
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Doctor Strange has my favourite third act of any MCU origin movie. It's not a "wow I can't believe they did such a ballsy thing"-level but it was pretty cool and unique.
The Thor movies make the Thor movies look like trash. But I can't agree at all with this ranking of IM3. That's a top 3 MCU movie for me.
The Thor movies make the Thor movies look like trash. But I can't agree at all with this ranking of IM3. That's a top 3 MCU movie for me.
ClivePwned
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Saw this last night and really enjoyed it. Having a heavy meal beforehand meant I was starting to nod-off towards the end (This is true of most movies for these days, a reflection of age more than any statement on the film)
When the clothing gets the biggest gags, you'd normally worry about the film but it was great. I kinda wished we'd done 3D. Cast was uniformly great and loved Giacchino busting out a harpsichord as a signature sound.
When the clothing gets the biggest gags, you'd normally worry about the film but it was great. I kinda wished we'd done 3D. Cast was uniformly great and loved Giacchino busting out a harpsichord as a signature sound.
Just saw it, and I definitely loved it. The actions, combined with the visual effects, were just brilliant. Not too much humor like other Marvel movies, but there were still some good laughs.
I agree it's in the Antman's tier, just below Avengers 1, IM1 and Civil war 2 and 3.
I agree it's in the Antman's tier, just below Avengers 1, IM1 and Civil war 2 and 3.
I'm quite disappointed about Dormammu. I think he should be more powerful, and get a post-credit scene suggesting he is gonna break the deal or something.
Yeah saw it as well last night, it was pretty good and kind of fresh (you know magic and stuff). In addition to the villain which was wasted again, I didn't think the music was better than other MCU, it has the same problem: it's too quiet and mostly in the background, only when the credits roll you could really hear it.
ps. In the 3D screening I was in the movie was messed up (blurry) from the beginning, luckily they fixed it in 2 minutes.
ps. In the 3D screening I was in the movie was messed up (blurry) from the beginning, luckily they fixed it in 2 minutes.
Callibretto
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Somehow the kungfu and magic fight in this make me want a high budget naruto movie, lol.
Tilda Swinton as Ancient One is amazing. I want to watch this again soon.
Tilda Swinton as Ancient One is amazing. I want to watch this again soon.
Funny, we had the same problem.
Yeah, she was wonderful. I loved her cheerfulness and sense of energy in the scene when she first meets Strange.
Glass Rebel
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As much as I like Tilda Swinton in general and also in Doctor Strange, there was nothing, absolutely nothing in her performance that an Asian(-American) woman couldn't have done. I kept thinking throughout the movie that a bald Zhang Ziyi could have easily taken the role without appearing like a Dragon Lady stereotype.
RogueShadow
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Soooo.....uh, Forbes has two reviews for this movie now ?
One calling it pure magic and the other calling it subpar.
Ooooookay ?......
One calling it pure magic and the other calling it subpar.
Ooooookay ?......
Forbes has a lot of contributors
I think I felt nauseous for two seconds after one particular section, which is a rare feat for me as I'm usually immune to that sort of thing. Some scenes are trippy, but in a good way.
How strange, my screening had the exact same problem !
Thanks!
I'm not that familiar with Strange and only know him from other Marvel comics he has cameos in, but man did he look incredible in that costume, especially when the cape came on. Felt 100% like the character. Costume/effects department did a great job here
SCULLIBUNDO
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Dr. Strange has the cure for insomnia.
KeyBladerXIII
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Really excited to see it, but I hate when some dumbass makes a spoiler comment and thinks they can get off by putting a shitty spoiler warning like this:
Spoiler Warning,the Avengers go eat Schwarma.
Spoiler Warning,the Avengers go eat Schwarma.
Finaika
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Messofanego
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Damn
Well, going to see this at IMAX 3D just for the visuals, so hopefully I'm at least entertained by that.
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