Doctor Who Series 8 |OT| We've fucking time-travelled, yes?
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His eyebrow rant is probably the funniest Nu-Who has been in awhile.
peanutbutterlatte
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Anybody who thinks they're being attacked has a persecution complex. The whole point was that he's the same man, in the end.
Capaldi is very good like we expected him to be. I am quite intrigued as to why he ended up choosing Caecilius' face to regenerate into. Hope they actually answer that.
Also reboot this ain't. Seems like a bad episode for newbies to get into. 5th season opener still the better jumping on point.
Also reboot this ain't. Seems like a bad episode for newbies to get into. 5th season opener still the better jumping on point.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Given the blanket marketing that's not impressive. We'll need to add in theatres too.
It is the highest overnight of a season opener since The Eleventh Hour, though.
StealthGoblin
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Ah in that case it's not bad then. Maybe they lost a few of the shallow 'I prefer young doctor' people.
Iplayer needs to be added in too.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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That... was... great.
Loved the opener.
Loved:
Capaldi as The Doctor. He went from hilariously confused doddering old man to you know, The Doctor, but an almost more sinister Doctor. Loved that.
The comedy. This episode was hilarious. Loved Capaldi's rant about being Scottish and the attack eyebrows. Can someone GIF Clara getting hit in the face with the newspaper?
The weird setups for the new overarching plot
Pretty good CGI effects this episode.
Liked how the villain delivered his lines.
Clara. She was great. Jenny's purty. Has great chemistry with Capaldi
Didn't like:
Bludgeoning us over the head with Jenny and Vastra's marriage. I get it. I really, really get it. They're married. It's inter-species. They love each other. It's scandalous for the time.
I really get it, guys.
Otherwise, fantastic opener! I occasionally had difficulty understanding somebody, so I had to rewind, but that's pretty much it. Loved it. Really, really loved it.
And Missy! Who the hell could that be, hahaha. The Master? That'd be weird, and I'm pretty sure he's ash (though someone did pick up his ring, was that her...?)
I liked the idea someone posited earlier in the thread about her being a manifestation of death... which means that a murderous robot made it to Paradise?
The Promised Land is gonna be so sinister. I liked how Missy came off as a bonkers Mary Poppins.
Loved the opener.
Loved:
Capaldi as The Doctor. He went from hilariously confused doddering old man to you know, The Doctor, but an almost more sinister Doctor. Loved that.
The comedy. This episode was hilarious. Loved Capaldi's rant about being Scottish and the attack eyebrows. Can someone GIF Clara getting hit in the face with the newspaper?
The weird setups for the new overarching plot
Pretty good CGI effects this episode.
Liked how the villain delivered his lines.
Clara. She was great. Jenny's purty. Has great chemistry with Capaldi
Didn't like:
Bludgeoning us over the head with Jenny and Vastra's marriage. I get it. I really, really get it. They're married. It's inter-species. They love each other. It's scandalous for the time.
I really get it, guys.
Otherwise, fantastic opener! I occasionally had difficulty understanding somebody, so I had to rewind, but that's pretty much it. Loved it. Really, really loved it.
And Missy! Who the hell could that be, hahaha. The Master? That'd be weird, and I'm pretty sure he's ash (though someone did pick up his ring, was that her...?)
I liked the idea someone posited earlier in the thread about her being a manifestation of death... which means that a murderous robot made it to Paradise?
The Promised Land is gonna be so sinister. I liked how Missy came off as a bonkers Mary Poppins.
Alcoremortis
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The Master already came back after being ash. Then he got sucked into Time War Gallifrey in the episode where he turned everyone into himself.
Little Old Man
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I too am surprised at the reaction in here. Apart from the first 10 minutes feeling a little wonky and undirected, I think it was one of the best intro episodes, if not the best.
Capaldi offers a very interesting Doctor- a mix of humour and grumpiness at points (though that might just be down to his recent regeneration), with that ever lingering loneliness underneath. Moffat finally seems to be exploring Coleman's character more, which is fantastic as she has a lot more to offer as an actor, and that certainly came through!
I really appreciate the darker tone in this episode too, in particular the questions to be asked over 'Humpty Dumpty', and I hope this carries on through the series.
Capaldi offers a very interesting Doctor- a mix of humour and grumpiness at points (though that might just be down to his recent regeneration), with that ever lingering loneliness underneath. Moffat finally seems to be exploring Coleman's character more, which is fantastic as she has a lot more to offer as an actor, and that certainly came through!
I really appreciate the darker tone in this episode too, in particular the questions to be asked over 'Humpty Dumpty', and I hope this carries on through the series.
Exterminieren
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It'll probably be neck and neck with The Great British Bake-Off for the week. I imagine that they wanted more, but it's probably not disastrous.
Well with Doctor Who, since iPlayer and the dominance of recording software in cable/sky boxes, overnights have always been relatively low, and finals have been much higher.
The less we mention that, the better.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
My mind was kind of blown at the admission that the recent previous Docs looked young
That's one of the most honest and meta things I've heard from a piece of fiction... It calls attention to the real world decisions that have been made about DW since the 2005 revival. It makes you think about how they consciously packaged this old character in cool/young packaging specifically in order to grow the brand.
You can read it as contempt for the "tumblr fangirl" audience... But I think that's a crude analysis. It's actually an admission of the tactics that led there to being a fangirl audience in the first place. To make old crusty Doctor Who palatable to the masses, they youthed him up a bit. That they have acknowledged this within the fiction blows my mind.
"so you would like him".
That's one of the most honest and meta things I've heard from a piece of fiction... It calls attention to the real world decisions that have been made about DW since the 2005 revival. It makes you think about how they consciously packaged this old character in cool/young packaging specifically in order to grow the brand.
You can read it as contempt for the "tumblr fangirl" audience... But I think that's a crude analysis. It's actually an admission of the tactics that led there to being a fangirl audience in the first place. To make old crusty Doctor Who palatable to the masses, they youthed him up a bit. That they have acknowledged this within the fiction blows my mind.
That's how I read it too. Hopefully they follow all the way through with their meta boast of "The show is established now, we can do what we want". I think that ties in with Moffat talking about how he's realised that some of things he carried over from the RTD era were only kept because he'd just assumed that that's what New Who is supposed to be.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It sounds like it's freed them to explore the greater legend of Doctor Who. A man who can take on any appearance he wants, regardless of hip, youthful appeal.
But I am curious if the broad appeal of the show will survive this transition. Clearly, many fans were taken in by some level of attraction to the Doc's youthful looks. Will that fanbase stay around? Will the audience stay big, or shrink over time? Honestly curious what happens when Who is less pandery to easy marketing tactics.
firehawk12
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Honestly, I haven't watched this show since the Eccleston season. Cipaldi is the reason why I'm back. lol
Android18a
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I'd just like to say I really enjoyed the episode. Capaldi was great, particularly from the rummaging-in-bins scene onwards as he regained his marbles somewhat. The bad guy looked great, I really liked how they did the special effects. The fact they used a physical prop as well as CGI made it a lot more convincing.
Yeah, the lizard-human lesbian marriage thing was a little overplayed, but I get why the characters were there. It's some familiar faces for an audience who might not have been through a regeneration before. And Strax, love him or hate him, brought the episode some comedy relief that helps the younger viewers relax amongst the scary bits and grown up bits.
Don't forget this show is still largely aimed at children, even though it has a large adult audience.
Looking forward to the rest of the series very much. Not sure about the preview for the next episode yet, but I think they probably had to keep it relatively spoiler-free.
Yeah, the lizard-human lesbian marriage thing was a little overplayed, but I get why the characters were there. It's some familiar faces for an audience who might not have been through a regeneration before. And Strax, love him or hate him, brought the episode some comedy relief that helps the younger viewers relax amongst the scary bits and grown up bits.
Don't forget this show is still largely aimed at children, even though it has a large adult audience.
Looking forward to the rest of the series very much. Not sure about the preview for the next episode yet, but I think they probably had to keep it relatively spoiler-free.
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What? Why do you think so?
Beaniedude
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Just came back from the cinema.
It was good. I really enjoyed it.
Although the very first thing I thought of when the lady at the end said it was heaven was, 'it's a bit small isn't it? "
It was good. I really enjoyed it.
Although the very first thing I thought of when the lady at the end said it was heaven was, 'it's a bit small isn't it? "
Didn't enjoy it at all - I thought the plot was a bit incoherent, the pacing felt weird, the setting was tedious, and the whole episode just felt too long and too bland. I'm not sure about Capaldi yet; none of his designated funny moments felt as amusing as they did with Smith or Tennant, although his darker moments worked better than I expected. The intro graphics were okay, but the theme music was really hard to listen to - this dire 1980s synth-y screeching, or maybe some SoundBlaster MIDI package - although maybe that's something deliberately retro for the older fans, but I thought it was almost embarassing to be heard watching.
I haven't been following Doctor Who on here so I don't know what the general consensus is on any of this, but I thought the last season was really poor as well. In fact, the season between that was pretty wobbly as well. I really loved the first five seasons of NewWho, but after a couple years of disappointment I'm starting to consider whether maybe it's just not my cup of tea anymore.
Anyway, I won't be darkening this thread with much more of my negativity but I wanted to get that off my chest so I could say it and be done with it.
On the bright side, I thought Clara was ace; it's the first time I've ever actually admired her, and thought of her as more than an empty vessel following the resolution of her plotline, so they've done well on that front and I hope she continues to develop into a human being.
I haven't been following Doctor Who on here so I don't know what the general consensus is on any of this, but I thought the last season was really poor as well. In fact, the season between that was pretty wobbly as well. I really loved the first five seasons of NewWho, but after a couple years of disappointment I'm starting to consider whether maybe it's just not my cup of tea anymore.
Anyway, I won't be darkening this thread with much more of my negativity but I wanted to get that off my chest so I could say it and be done with it.
On the bright side, I thought Clara was ace; it's the first time I've ever actually admired her, and thought of her as more than an empty vessel following the resolution of her plotline, so they've done well on that front and I hope she continues to develop into a human being.
APZonerunner
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It's very good. I think if I think about it vs:
Rose
The Christmas Invasion
The Eleventh Hour
It's probably the weakest of the group, but that's a very bloody good group of episodes. There's a lot that can be said about 'Rose' (burping bin etc) but that episode accomplished tons besides that has to be considered.
The main complaint I really feel about it is that I don't feel like it really makes very good use of its lengthy running time compared to Day of the Doctor. Fifteen minutes could've very easily been lost from the episode without damaging some of the lengthy scenes like the cafe scene; I honestly feel like this would've been better off as an hour. It felt self indulgent. I feel as though it's almost deliberate as if they're trying to prove a point about "It's slower! It's more methodical!" which they've been screaming in interviews. However, I find that strange in particular as we already know from the leaked Episodes 2-5 that it pretty much reverts to typical 2005-on Doctor Who pace as of next week. Capaldi runs a bit less, but that's it, really.
Per the BBC's own description, Doctor Who is "a family show best enjoyed by families with children aged seven and up."
In the words of Moffat: "Of course it’s a children’s show. The show belongs to kids. It’s about an alien time traveller who has adventures in a spaceship disguised as a police box. And just look at the character of the Doctor? He’s totally ridiculous."
Alex Kingston (River) says it pretty well too: "The one thing I hope is that more children in America get on board. In England, Doctor Who has always been considered a children’s show, at least by children. My daughter and her contemporaries, they feel like it’s their show. Parents are allowed to watch but it’s the children’s show."
It is a prime time children's show. This is also the case in places like Australia and Canada more so (Often, places that used to borrow off the BBC for prime time when the classic series when on the air.) In a lot of countries where it's only got popular with the new series it's become this bizarre, awesome little sci-fi phoenomenon, but that isn't really what the show was. When I went to the Day of the Doctor screening where I lived, it was, I would say, 70% kids + parents, and then the rest were the sci-fi nerds like me! In Britain, I really think of the show like that. That's why in Britain, when Capaldi was cast, it was on the front page of almost every newspaper, because it's event viewing for the whole family for many.
Rose
The Christmas Invasion
The Eleventh Hour
It's probably the weakest of the group, but that's a very bloody good group of episodes. There's a lot that can be said about 'Rose' (burping bin etc) but that episode accomplished tons besides that has to be considered.
The main complaint I really feel about it is that I don't feel like it really makes very good use of its lengthy running time compared to Day of the Doctor. Fifteen minutes could've very easily been lost from the episode without damaging some of the lengthy scenes like the cafe scene; I honestly feel like this would've been better off as an hour. It felt self indulgent. I feel as though it's almost deliberate as if they're trying to prove a point about "It's slower! It's more methodical!" which they've been screaming in interviews. However, I find that strange in particular as we already know from the leaked Episodes 2-5 that it pretty much reverts to typical 2005-on Doctor Who pace as of next week. Capaldi runs a bit less, but that's it, really.
Per the BBC's own description, Doctor Who is "a family show best enjoyed by families with children aged seven and up."
In the words of Moffat: "Of course it’s a children’s show. The show belongs to kids. It’s about an alien time traveller who has adventures in a spaceship disguised as a police box. And just look at the character of the Doctor? He’s totally ridiculous."
Alex Kingston (River) says it pretty well too: "The one thing I hope is that more children in America get on board. In England, Doctor Who has always been considered a children’s show, at least by children. My daughter and her contemporaries, they feel like it’s their show. Parents are allowed to watch but it’s the children’s show."
It is a prime time children's show. This is also the case in places like Australia and Canada more so (Often, places that used to borrow off the BBC for prime time when the classic series when on the air.) In a lot of countries where it's only got popular with the new series it's become this bizarre, awesome little sci-fi phoenomenon, but that isn't really what the show was. When I went to the Day of the Doctor screening where I lived, it was, I would say, 70% kids + parents, and then the rest were the sci-fi nerds like me! In Britain, I really think of the show like that. That's why in Britain, when Capaldi was cast, it was on the front page of almost every newspaper, because it's event viewing for the whole family for many.
After a rewatch with subs i liked it even more, the slower pace and longer episode really help things unfold, even if some parts are remove-them-bad, and everyone delivers greatly. Hope it keeps like this with 45 mins episodes.
And i hang on my "Guy from Pompeii's face to alarm about an incoming threat" theory.
Also, Marcus Aurelius was cited by Clara, and judging by the next week promo Aritostele's too, are they up to something?
And i hang on my "Guy from Pompeii's face to alarm about an incoming threat" theory.
Also, Marcus Aurelius was cited by Clara, and judging by the next week promo Aritostele's too, are they up to something?
I agree with others that Clara's characterization was better this time around. She almost has a character now! Still, she's been dull for so long now that I doub't I'll ever care about her.
And I hate the Vastra/Jenny/Strax trio. I mean, Strax is funny and Jenny is alright (and this episode made me realize how fiiiiiiiine that girl is), but Vastra doesn't work for me. Never mind the whole "oh, we're different species and the same gender yet we're married, how quaint yet progressive of the BBC to do that amirite", Vastra herself is unlikeable. I don't buy her being this super intelligent shadow detective for God knows what reason, and I don't buy that other people in that time period, much less the police, would do anything other than ostracize her. Her characterization doesn't strike me as much more solid than Clara's, to be honest. Those guys really have overstayed their welcome.
And I hate the Vastra/Jenny/Strax trio. I mean, Strax is funny and Jenny is alright (and this episode made me realize how fiiiiiiiine that girl is), but Vastra doesn't work for me. Never mind the whole "oh, we're different species and the same gender yet we're married, how quaint yet progressive of the BBC to do that amirite", Vastra herself is unlikeable. I don't buy her being this super intelligent shadow detective for God knows what reason, and I don't buy that other people in that time period, much less the police, would do anything other than ostracize her. Her characterization doesn't strike me as much more solid than Clara's, to be honest. Those guys really have overstayed their welcome.
As an aside, it's been a much smaller kid ratio when I've been to the cinemas, although that might simply be due to being in Oxford, with a high density of geeks, students, and student geeks.
JonathanEx
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Judging by the number of young fans they seem to be coping alright with it.
APZonerunner
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The classic, number one misconception and underestimation. The show isn't any more complicated now than it ever was, but the proof is really in the pudding: A decent part of the reason people like Gatiss, Moffat, Davies, Tennant & Capaldi think the way they do is because from about the age of six or seven they were watching this show!
Doctor Who is, when at its best, like a Pixar movie - it's simple enough for kids to latch onto, but there are layers of intelligent thought and innuendo that passes them by in order to keep the parents interested. If you're six, you probably don't understand the bollocks around River Song's precise timeline, or what the Slitheen/World War Three/Harriet Jones is really a microcosm of, but that doesn't matter to them at all.
Flip side: There have been a lot of complaints, especially around Series 6, with it becoming a bit much for kids in its complexity under Moffat, who does like his slightly smug twisty turny plot lines a lot. Moffat, rightly, dialed it back after Series 6 in response.
Really, this entire thing can be summed up with a quote from the late, great Douglas Adams, Doctor Who script writer/editor for a chunk of the 70s and of course the man behind Hitchhikers Guide: "The trick about Doctor Who is making it simple enough for the adults to understand and complicated enough to hold the children’s attention."
Android18a
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Doctor Who has always had this thing about not talking down to kids. It's for kids, but it's never patronising. It makes the kids concentrate, and think. It encourages them to imagine being a companion of the Doctor and helping to solve the mystery. Complicated? Yep. Too much so? I think kids are capable of following it more than you'd realise.
Captain_Spanky
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Even in the 70s it was called "tea-time terror for tots" by Mary Whitehouse. Admittedly it was not a compliment coming from her. But the target audience has always been kids and their parents.
What was complicated about it? Seriously this was a very simple story.
Team Filler
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I'm in complete agreement with this statement.
The start of the episode was a bit shaky, particularly with that ridiculous straight-out-of-Series 1 sound effect, but overall a wonderful intro for the new Doctor. I loved it, and am glad to see Jenna get the material to shine like I knew she would since Asylum of the Daleks.
That bit of Twelve with the tramp was wonderful.
That really is a brilliant quote.
I'm not talking about the last episode. I'm talking about the whole show. For example season 06 was cleary not for kids. I mean there were really "frightening" scenes like a Silence killing a woman in the restroom. And the story was too complex for a kid.
Or several episodes from season 1-4.
I think you underestimate kids.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
I like the new rendition of the theme music, nice and chunky with a touch of the ethereal. Not so big on the actual title sequence though. "Gears and clocks! Get it? Because it's about time travel! Eh? Eh?"
Episode was kinda blah but Capaldi was great and the scene with the Doctor and Clara in the restaurant was good stuff.
Episode was kinda blah but Capaldi was great and the scene with the Doctor and Clara in the restaurant was good stuff.
Vangu Vegro
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As Douglas Adams once said: "The challenge of Doctor Who is to make it simple enough for adults and complicated enough for children."
[EDIT: Beaten to it. Can't delete posts? Oh well.]
JonathanEx
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http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2011...ith-is-a-hit-with-children-and-middle-classes
From 2005 to Day of the Moon (2011, Series 6 start)
From 2005 to Day of the Moon (2011, Series 6 start)
I think in the end, I just theorise they don't want to necessarily "nail" it in one episode but really bet on the whole series to put all the pieces on the board.
Seeing the leaks and without spoiling, 12 comes along really in a series of episode. He really comes together in ep 2 for the biggest part but there are still parts that fit here and there as the show goes by and I think that will continue up until the last one.
I personally like that, because I think it fits into the whole slower paced narrative they're kinda aiming for. Instead of wanting to absolutely cram everything they could in an episode, they're gonna pad it out. Now for better or for worse of course and Deep Breath does have it's shortcomings (Matt was really lucky to have that almost "perfect" episode in Eleventh hour, that's pretty hard to beat) but I think it's the subsequent episodes and the step-by-step characterisation that's gonna win people over in retrospect
Also holy shit are some people on twitter and tumblr already freaking out because the doctor is "abusive". Can't wait when we get to ep. 4 and the doctor has "that" sentence that will probably send them raving
Seeing the leaks and without spoiling, 12 comes along really in a series of episode. He really comes together in ep 2 for the biggest part but there are still parts that fit here and there as the show goes by and I think that will continue up until the last one.
I personally like that, because I think it fits into the whole slower paced narrative they're kinda aiming for. Instead of wanting to absolutely cram everything they could in an episode, they're gonna pad it out. Now for better or for worse of course and Deep Breath does have it's shortcomings (Matt was really lucky to have that almost "perfect" episode in Eleventh hour, that's pretty hard to beat) but I think it's the subsequent episodes and the step-by-step characterisation that's gonna win people over in retrospect
Also holy shit are some people on twitter and tumblr already freaking out because the doctor is "abusive". Can't wait when we get to ep. 4 and the doctor has "that" sentence that will probably send them raving
StealthGoblin
Banned
I taught 6 and 7 year olds for two years. I dressed as The Doctor for two weeks as we did a two week topic on Doctor Who and the kids loved it. They understand more than you think.
MrHoot said:
Yeah probably.
Btw, I read somewhere this: "Looking forward to hearing people's opinions on this when it airs, I've seen some people say it's the best episode since the show came back then in this thread comparing it to Love & Monsters."
Is that a joke? I mean Love & Monsters was terrible.
APZonerunner
Member
Though let this not give the impression the old series wasn't kid-focused - it's just that one became something more of a nerdy sci-fi affair as things went on, especially with the sixth and seventh Doctors, which is why ratings began to tank. Heading in that direction again is something the production team is actively trying to avoid.
As an aside, I find how Moffat's Who has dropped somewhat with the working class but done better with the middle class and RTD's the reverse really fascinating. Very British.
Hot Coldman
Banned
because 11 calling Clara like that wasn't abusive in the slightest
The guy who did the love & monsters explained why though (He meant in the more "experimental" writing of the episode rather than the slab blowjob or the awful monster or terrbleness of the writing in genral) so i understood more what he was saying. But i was kinda confused as well yeah
now, I'm almost done with season 5 rewatch (but for some episodes you could say it's the first time) and so far I'm used to expect good episodes when I read Moffat. especially in the first seasons his episodes were almost the only good ones.
but this new episode, to be honest, was disappointing. I did expect something better for the new doctor first episode. I saw recently the first episode for Matt and it was so much better than this.
smh Moffat
overall I liked Tennant but I wasn't a fan of Donna or Marta at all.
Rose was just ugh. it was already the second time that he leaves her for-fucking-ever, that's the impression you get anyway. and there he just goes back to say hi, fuck that.
but this new episode, to be honest, was disappointing. I did expect something better for the new doctor first episode. I saw recently the first episode for Matt and it was so much better than this.
smh Moffat
I really didn't like the writing of the final episodes, it felt so dumb in most of the scenes.
overall I liked Tennant but I wasn't a fan of Donna or Marta at all.
Rose was just ugh. it was already the second time that he leaves her for-fucking-ever, that's the impression you get anyway. and there he just goes back to say hi, fuck that.
APZonerunner
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The guy who did the love & monsters explained why though (He meant in the more "experimental" writing of the episode rather than the slab blowjob or the awful monster or terrbleness of the writing in genral) so i understood more what he was saying. But i was kinda confused as well yeah
Since it's relevant to the current show-is-for-kids discussion, the monster in Love & Monsters was designed by a 9 year old child who won a competition to design a monster for the show. The monster, and his ability set, was designed by the 9 year old, and the episode was constructed around that.
Are the cinema exclusive bits online anywhere yet? From what I can gather, there was a live Q&A with Moffat, the cast and Zoe Bell that didn't work properly anywhere and a bit with Strax talking about previous Doctors (which might be the same thing that was released on youtube around the 50th?).
It really strikes me how much this episode was the episode that Colin Baker deserved as his first. Of all the Doctors I was expecting to compare Capaldi to, I wasn't expecting Colin Baker to be top of the list.
Really enjoyed this, can't wait for more. Very curious to see where things go from here. The most exciting thing for me is how different Capaldi is from Tennant and Smith, which changes the entire tone of the stories as well. This makes it exciting again to see how he stacks up against classic enemies/scenarios.
I'm really curious to see how kids are thinking about the new Doctor. It's great for me, as an older fan and a fan of the classic Doctors (moreso than the previous modern Doctors, although I liked all of them too), but like others have said, it is a show for the kids. I can see them being properly bewildered after having Smith as their main Doctor these last few years.
It really strikes me how much this episode was the episode that Colin Baker deserved as his first. Of all the Doctors I was expecting to compare Capaldi to, I wasn't expecting Colin Baker to be top of the list.
Really enjoyed this, can't wait for more. Very curious to see where things go from here. The most exciting thing for me is how different Capaldi is from Tennant and Smith, which changes the entire tone of the stories as well. This makes it exciting again to see how he stacks up against classic enemies/scenarios.
I'm really curious to see how kids are thinking about the new Doctor. It's great for me, as an older fan and a fan of the classic Doctors (moreso than the previous modern Doctors, although I liked all of them too), but like others have said, it is a show for the kids. I can see them being properly bewildered after having Smith as their main Doctor these last few years.
Ok
I tuned out at the end of Season 4, i tried to watch Season 5 but i couldn't get interested in the new Doctor or Companion...but i'm a big fan of Capaldi and i'm thinking about trying it out
Can i skip something out of S05-06-07? not digging the idea of getting to watch all three seasons atm...might go for a recap and then watch the 50th anniversary, dunnow
I tuned out at the end of Season 4, i tried to watch Season 5 but i couldn't get interested in the new Doctor or Companion...but i'm a big fan of Capaldi and i'm thinking about trying it out
Can i skip something out of S05-06-07? not digging the idea of getting to watch all three seasons atm...might go for a recap and then watch the 50th anniversary, dunnow
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