Future Foundation
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Not on YT yet, but here's a link to it on the DWTV blog.
Also, from the same blog, the new opening sequence.
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Not on YT yet, but here's a link to it on the DWTV blog.
Also, from the same blog, the new opening sequence.
dreamcastmaster
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I think you're right, I thought the same thing.
While it's definitely on the back-burner, at the start of the episode when the Doctor's in the coach, Vastra keeps mentioning those 'two words', then Clara asks 'doctor who?' and the Dr reponds 'a very dangerous question', so it's still definitely in play.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Arthur Darvil's christmas photo
http://instagram.com/p/Tq6v_3DgPx/
http://instagram.com/p/Tq6v_3DgPx/
I'm definitely happy and intrigued at the new companion. I was saddened to see the Amy and Rory go, since those were the first companions I had seen on Doctor Who. But this was a great intro (well, along with her other episode) for Clara/Oswin. Really looking forward to more!
Well that was pretty good, pacing was a bit off but apart from that it was great. Strax was pretty funny and Clara's introduction (Re-Introduction?) was fantastic. Did not see that ending coming, so, she's the female Rory, going to die everytime we see her? The new title screen was cool and the interior of the TARDIS looks... Strange, but I guess it kinda suits where the Doctor's at at the moment. All in all, it's looking good for Series 7 Part 2!
Yeah ditto, her character just became so frustrating and annoying if you ask me. Although saying that I did like the chemistry between her and the doctor.
Indeed.
The Elite
BOSS
It's Christmas.
Hot Coldman
Banned
It is?! Fuck, I have shit to do
I think the implication from the end of the episode is that it did return... Back in The Web Of Fear in Troughton's era. Wibbly wobbly timely wimey!
Hot Coldman
Banned
I love how the Doctor is so old at this point he can barely remember stuff he did as the Second Doctor.
Napoleonthechimp
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I didn't realise it was a pre-existing character/thing.
dr_octagon
Banned
she shoots JFK to save the Doctor and they bump into the Red Dwarf crew
meltingparappa
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Oh my god, this episode.
Moffat and co are back at the top of their game, the break has done the wonders. What a fantastic tease for whatever bug-nutty arc they're going to explore this season.
Moffat and co are back at the top of their game, the break has done the wonders. What a fantastic tease for whatever bug-nutty arc they're going to explore this season.
APZonerunner
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The Series 5 version of The Doctor's Wife had House as The Great Intelligence, but Moffat had Gaiman nix it, presumably to pinch it for this. Also, for those wondering, the London Underground weakness the Doctor already pointed out was exploited by The Great Intelligence and thwarted by The Doctor way back in 1968. This show!
Excellent episode. Clara is amazing. Sort of sad it's a slight cop-out on an actual period companion and it appears she'll be from the present day, but other than that, I am massively, massively pleased. Top stuff. Miles better than Amy already. Also worth noting: Clara's birthday on the Tombstone is the same day in November that the series first aired. Probably deliberate, and knowing Moffat more than just a harmless nod.
Excellent episode. Clara is amazing. Sort of sad it's a slight cop-out on an actual period companion and it appears she'll be from the present day, but other than that, I am massively, massively pleased. Top stuff. Miles better than Amy already. Also worth noting: Clara's birthday on the Tombstone is the same day in November that the series first aired. Probably deliberate, and knowing Moffat more than just a harmless nod.
Probably quite deliberate, yeah. He's already said that they'll make sure an episode of Doctor Who will also air on November 23rd 2013, so I can't wait to see what they have in store for next year. Hope the rest of series 7 will air soon, but I'm afraid we'll have to wait until Easter again.
Curious when they'll start shooting series 8, they have to start ramping up production soon if the next series starts in fall or if they're gonna do a huge anniversary special.
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Never watched these xmas specials before, so I wasn't sure! Just checked the BBCA site and it airs at 9pm. My body is ready.
King of the Potato People
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That was decent. But Im bored of almost every companion swooning over the Doctor. Also its getting boring seeing the Doctor lose a companion, and then becoming reluctant and miserable
until he gets a new companion. The show may be getting a little tired.
The Real Abed
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Really good. Has me pumped for the next half of the season. Can't wait to find out what Clara is.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Who's the Doctor's "other friend" who resurrected Strax? Maybe that'll tie into Oswin.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Well that was enjoyable. Some really great imagery, some decent writing, some cringe-inducing moments. A nicely campy villain, with a tie to the larger Who mythos.
-Amazing visual direction, I especially love the study that the Intelligence is operating out of.
-The Clara thing is intriguing, especially because I thought we already had the big thread for this season ("Doctor Who?") but now we also have the girl who dies over and over.
-Kind of annoyed that it looks like "real" Clara is going to be from modern day Earth though, the biggest thing I liked about what her appearance in Asylum meant was that we would finally get away from that.
-New TARDIS interior looks fantastic. Completely different in tone, a lot more science-fiction-ey, really great looking.
-I'm getting sick of "the power of emotion" as a major plot agent. Yes yes RTD had the most egregious example of this, but it feels like its come up a lot more during Moffat's run, where things are fixed by people loving each other, or, in this case, crying.
-Lizard woman and friend really annoy me. They just really do. The line where she's like "I'm a lizard woman from the beginning of time" is just....euughh. Its like they took the most annoying self-indulgent cleverness snark of the Doctor character and compressed it into its own form. River Song felt this way as well to me (especially in S5), and it seems like there's a segment of the fanbase that really likes that but man it is not me.
-The plot, while fun, was really...scattered. You have both the snowmen and the ice lady and I'm never quite clear on the relationship between the two. I think that the ice lady was a completely separate phenomenon that just so happened to occur when the Intelligence needed a human mold?
-Also I really didn't buy "mopey doesn't interfere in Earth" Doctor. The writing and the acting just can't sell what they were trying to express.
-But man, I really can't wait to see more of Clara as a companion.
-Amazing visual direction, I especially love the study that the Intelligence is operating out of.
-The Clara thing is intriguing, especially because I thought we already had the big thread for this season ("Doctor Who?") but now we also have the girl who dies over and over.
-Kind of annoyed that it looks like "real" Clara is going to be from modern day Earth though, the biggest thing I liked about what her appearance in Asylum meant was that we would finally get away from that.
-New TARDIS interior looks fantastic. Completely different in tone, a lot more science-fiction-ey, really great looking.
-I'm getting sick of "the power of emotion" as a major plot agent. Yes yes RTD had the most egregious example of this, but it feels like its come up a lot more during Moffat's run, where things are fixed by people loving each other, or, in this case, crying.
-Lizard woman and friend really annoy me. They just really do. The line where she's like "I'm a lizard woman from the beginning of time" is just....euughh. Its like they took the most annoying self-indulgent cleverness snark of the Doctor character and compressed it into its own form. River Song felt this way as well to me (especially in S5), and it seems like there's a segment of the fanbase that really likes that but man it is not me.
-The plot, while fun, was really...scattered. You have both the snowmen and the ice lady and I'm never quite clear on the relationship between the two. I think that the ice lady was a completely separate phenomenon that just so happened to occur when the Intelligence needed a human mold?
-Also I really didn't buy "mopey doesn't interfere in Earth" Doctor. The writing and the acting just can't sell what they were trying to express.
-But man, I really can't wait to see more of Clara as a companion.
King of the Potato People
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Who is Oswin? I wanted to know exactly what the Silence was first. Perhaps they'll connect somehow.
Sir_Crocodile
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Cap'n Jack maybe?
Hot Coldman
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Maybe. We all know the Silence kinda have to come back when the Doctor regenerates, anyway, so I'm happy to have a new mystery whilst we wait.
Saw that suggestion in the Guardian's liveblog, but eh. He's immortal, but he doesn't have the secret to immortality (besides taking a towtruck to the TARDIS console). I'm happy to just accept it, give Sontarans are all test tube babies and probably not too hard to drum up again.
CoachKevin
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Amazing Christmas episode. I think it was mostly because of Oswin. Can not wait to see more of that character.
Any word on when the new episodes start?
Any word on when the new episodes start?
Citizen_Insane
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On one hand, I love the new Tardis, but I also loved the other one so much.. Wish they kept this one for the next Doctor.
I need more Clara NOW. <3
I need more Clara NOW. <3
In Torchwood: Miracle Day, Jack accidentally makes someone immortal. Does that count?
I prefer to pretend that the piece of shit that was Miracle Day is non-canon however...
grimshawish
Banned
Really loved that. Totally going to watch more of this, and the next series trailer was AWESOME
Hot Coldman
Banned
I'm in love.
The scene with her climbing the staircase to the clouds was such a great image. Possibly my favourite Who scene, visually, since Amy floating in space in her pyjamas.
Subliminal
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As far as christmas episodes go, it was better than last year, but still pretty bad. The plot was confusing, silly and too wishy washy, It's just characteristic of the sloppy writing from the first half of the series. Hopefully the next half can be a fresh start but I can already see Moffat getting too overdramatic with the whole "Who is Clara" thing, It's neat at first but then the show just becomes a string of dramatic reveals with subpar filler inbetween. However, There's another Neil Gaiman episode next year and that was the saving grace of the overworked Series 6.
However, I really liked the aesthetic of this episode, They are really good at Victorian christmas (I imagine because it's cheap and easy to write). But they really went all out on the feel of the show, I especially loved the stairs to the tardis. However, The new tardis looks like cgi shit. They've put way too much cgi into it, It always looks better with a more material feel and whilst there's still the console It just doesn't feel like a proper room anymore, more like half a room with the rest added in CGI. I'm also not sure why the Tardis needed to change.
The new opening - Excellent.
The new companion - Would've preferred the victorian one to the modern one we're apparently getting.
Next half - I'm not sure how much of it I'm looking forward to, Ideally this could be a fresh start and It would go back to series 5. But, that's not going to happen.
However, I really liked the aesthetic of this episode, They are really good at Victorian christmas (I imagine because it's cheap and easy to write). But they really went all out on the feel of the show, I especially loved the stairs to the tardis. However, The new tardis looks like cgi shit. They've put way too much cgi into it, It always looks better with a more material feel and whilst there's still the console It just doesn't feel like a proper room anymore, more like half a room with the rest added in CGI. I'm also not sure why the Tardis needed to change.
The new opening - Excellent.
The new companion - Would've preferred the victorian one to the modern one we're apparently getting.
Next half - I'm not sure how much of it I'm looking forward to, Ideally this could be a fresh start and It would go back to series 5. But, that's not going to happen.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Future Oswin > all. That dress, man.
Subliminal
Member
That would be good, Basically a companion that isn't from this time.
Also, Moffat, I know you don't really want to bother with all the icky details of writing but PLEASE stop having every bad guy 'feeding on your thoughts', so the little child or damsel in distress can think them away. The same applies the the Sonic Screwdriver can do everything plot device.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yup, variations on "the power of love/thought" are getting old. It feels like every 2 or 3 episodes the Doctor's solution to the problem is to grip someone by the shoulders and say "you must/must not think about X"
There was sort of an inverse Mary Poppins feel to that scene. The brolly helped.
I'm in love.
Incendiary
Banned
Loved the episode. Clara was great, and I was legitimately shocked when she died....again. I thought she was going to tie into the original Oswin, not be a second death. And I like that she's not exactly like Rory. It seems like she's reincarnating or something since she doesn't remember the Doctor exactly.
The only thing I'm disappointed in is that it seems like the Clara that's going to be the actual companion is another modern girl. We had future half-Dalek Clara and 19th century Victorian Clara, why do we have to have ANOTHER modern companion? C'mon Moffat, I want to see a non-present day companion in the new Who.
The only thing I'm disappointed in is that it seems like the Clara that's going to be the actual companion is another modern girl. We had future half-Dalek Clara and 19th century Victorian Clara, why do we have to have ANOTHER modern companion? C'mon Moffat, I want to see a non-present day companion in the new Who.
Future Foundation
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The Elite
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