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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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The Elite

The Elite

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Was at FanExpo (ComicCon North) in Toronto yesterday and the popularity of Doctor Who has exploded this year. Three years ago I had a hard time finding anything DW related. Two years ago I started to see a few people in costume pop up and one both had a few Doctor Who goods. Last year it had a pretty good presence. This year Doctor Who fans are dominating the show. One Dalek had a huge swarm of people around it. The Doctor Who Society of Canada is there too. I need to meet up with these people.

Very good to see everyone jumping on the Who bandwagon.
 
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mclem

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This is only tangentially related to Doctor Who - the Doctor's relevance comes up later - but I find it fascinating.

One thing people may have missed (I had!) is the Genome project the BBC have embarked upon:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2010/08/bbc-genome-the-complete-broadc.shtml

While they don't have the actual programmes in many cases, it's an attempt to get any information they can into a database of their archives, so at least some information exists for everything they've output in their history. The methodology is intriguing, too; they *do* have archives for the Radio Times, so they've been making use of that.

Doctor Who seems to have been at the recieving end of this in a recent overhaul to the website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0/episodes/guide#b006v193

Now you can scroll down *past* Series 1, to Doctor Who (i.e. the McGann movie) and then Season 26, and it keeps going.

It's fun to see that the Last On section still works:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00km1bv

Last on
The War Machines Part 4

4/4 The Doctor hatches a dangerous plan to capture a War Machine and stop WOTAN.

Sat 16 Jul 1966 17:15 BBC One
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I'm very impressed; it's a monumentally ambitious undertaking, but the Genome Project as a whole is going to be a treasure trove to explore in future years... particularly if they combine this with the BBC Archive project ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/index.shtml )
 
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Quick

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DoctorWho said:
Was at FanExpo (ComicCon North) in Toronto yesterday and the popularity of Doctor Who has exploded this year. Three years ago I had a hard time finding anything DW related. Two years ago I started to see a few people in costume pop up and one both had a few Doctor Who goods. Last year it had a pretty good presence. This year Doctor Who fans are dominating the show. One Dalek had a huge swarm of people around it. The Doctor Who Society of Canada is there too. I need to meet up with these people.

Very good to see everyone jumping on the Who bandwagon.
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And to top off last year: a guy who dressed up as the 10th Doctor, and actually looked like him. Hair and all. I remember the Space booth (if you can call it that) going nuts and people swarming the place because he was there.

Also, John Barrowman is here this year. Probably won't happen, but I'm hoping to see any of the current cast make it out here at some point. Would be amazing.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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mclem said:
Blink is awesome, but I do sometimes worry that that might overshadow Human Nature/The Family of Blood, which is *also* superb. I do sometimes worry that people boil series 3 down to "Blink" and "Everything Else".
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Series 3 has a lot of great stuff. The Family of Blood two parter is great, as are Utopia and Sound of Drums.
 
bengraven

bengraven

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trudderham said:
Something tells me they're getting it on when the TARDIS arrives the bedroom - hence the bright lighting in front of the bed :D
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He is kind of a scumbag.

Does everything he can to interrupt their lives, including their sex lives.

Does nothing to stop Amy's slightly obsessive crush on him.

Fucks their daughter.
 
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EleventhDoctor

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Sean! said:
As cool as this show is, I don't think I can stay attached to it. I really enjoyed Eccleston and Tennant's portrayal of the doctor, and I really enjoyed Rose as a companion too. The way the show just disposes of them is very annoying.

Anyway, 10 minutes into season 3, and I already hate donna.
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Famous last words. Everyone I've ever gotten into Doctor Who threatened to stop watching after Eccelston left-then after Billie Piper left, and then after Tennant left. They're all still watching and love it more than ever.

And I think we all hated Donna in her first appearance-but it's necessary to make you love her later on. Donna rocks.
 
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Ephidel

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MDavis360 said:
And I think we all hated Donna in her first appearance-but it's necessary to make you love her later on. Donna rocks.
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I don't know that I hated her, but I definitely didn't like her to start with. She irritated me in part because I've never really found any of Catherine Tate's comedy stuff to be funny, but I did like that Donna had no romantic interest in the Doctor, because I was sick of companions who did (and to some extent still am).
She definitely wasn't as bad as I expected her to be though, and she had definite growth as a character, even if she still continued to be somewhat annoying. I remember dreading the yearly companion solo episode, but Turn Left actually ended up being one of my favourites of that series, so I guess it's fair to say that I got over it.
 
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Exterminieren

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brucewaynegretzky said:
Bullshit. Amy fawns over the Doctor all the time and her own husband questioned who she loved more. Jack hits on everything that moves.
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Amy made her choice a long time ago. There's love in terms of friendship, sure, but nothing romantic since Flesh and Stone.

Every time Rory's been uncertain about Amy's priorities, the answer has been emphatically Rory.
 
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The Technomancer

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Exterminieren said:
Amy made her choice a long time ago. There's love in terms of friendship, sure, but nothing romantic since Flesh and Stone.
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Eh, for what seems like most of the two seasons she practically worships him, friend or not. Its a shame they didn't explore the dark side to that further then the two episodes it got (and more skilfully to boot)
 
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LCGeek

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Exterminieren said:
Amy made her choice a long time ago. There's love in terms of friendship, sure, but nothing romantic since Flesh and Stone.

Every time Rory's been uncertain about Amy's priorities, the answer has been emphatically Rory.
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Not just the answer but the response in some of the cases that question was pushed.
 
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CleverGirl

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Is anybody else tired of how young the Doctor's companions are? I mean Rose was all of 19 when she ran off with him, and besides Donna who I love, they haven't aged up all that much. I like all the companions, but the Dream Lord was right about the Doctor.

Also this is Martha:

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acheron_xl

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CleverGirl said:
Is anybody else tired of how young the Doctor's companions are? I mean Rose was all of 19 when she ran off with him, and besides Donna who I love, they haven't aged up all that much. I like all the companions, but the Dream Lord was right about the Doctor.
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It's nothing new, really. They've almost always been fairly young. It seemed a bit less creepy before sexual tension was added to the show, though.
 
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grimshawish

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I liked Martha to start with, its a serious criticism on RTD that he didn't use her medical training or make it relevant whatsoever.

Also Freema wasn't perfect, not her fault but RTD shouldn't have cast her. (shes not the best treated, he pretty much got bored of Martha coming in for another episode and so created Jenny to take most of her work! Martha got sidelined and Freema given the role of stating the exposition for a fish :D)

This is the pinnacle of Martha Jones achievements:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5leDhRGZ2g

To anyone new to Doctor Who, yes a fish just fucking drowned :D


Seriously though, Martha was badly treated by the writers and RTD obviously was mostly bored by Freema's acting. Still think he did a poor job of moving on from Rose though; he really over did that relationship in series 2-4 compared to the subtle building of series 1.
 
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Exterminieren

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Yeah, Martha's character arc was totally botched. Her amazing disappearing brother, her sister who got one episode of relevance and little ever again, her relationship with Tom that was never actually shown on screen, her arbitrary marriage to Mickey, nothing ever made of the fact that the Doctor killed her cousin (I was certain that the Master was going to use that)... what a mess. Moffat has his problems with characterisation, but he has never wasted a character as thoroughly as Davies wasted Martha.

A shame, really, because I found Agyeman quite charming. She's not the greatest actor in the world, but she has a likeability to her which is quite appealing.
 
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Jintor

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Rewatching the Impossible Astronaut. It's got a really good plot device, but I think they can't use it again - the Doctor can't cross his own timeline, right? I love the Future Doctors thing they play with.
 
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The Technomancer

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Jintor said:
Rewatching the Impossible Astronaut. It's got a really good plot device, but I think they can't use it again - the Doctor can't cross his own timeline, right? I love the Future Doctors thing they play with.
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They set up the Doctor's death so well in that episode. Like I said earlier, there was no way it could have gotten the resolution that it deserved, but it still deserved far far better then what it actually got.
 
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ag-my001

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Exterminieren said:
New Asylum of the Daleks trailer.

It's nearly here...
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Interesting bit in that trailer's description:

But with Amy and Rory's relationship in meltdown, and an army of mad Daleks closing in, it is up to the Doctor to save their lives, as well as the Pond's marriage.
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I guess we'll have to watch the "Pond Life" vids to explain this, or else the first half of the episode will seem awfully rushed.
 
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Jintor

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Goddamn, I just blew through a recap episode and it just reminded me how fucking tops Season 5 was. Seriously. Man, S6 wasn't terrible but compared to the really good arc that was s5 it's nothing at all.

The wedding rhyme, the doctor and the cracks being seeded throughout the series, so good. I want to go through the s5 fnarg thread again...
 
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KibblesBits

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CleverGirl said:
Is anybody else tired of how young the Doctor's companions are? I mean Rose was all of 19 when she ran off with him, and besides Donna who I love, they haven't aged up all that much. I like all the companions, but the Dream Lord was right about the Doctor.

Also this is Martha:

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Poor Martha. :/

So much potential. So little actualization of it properly.
Martha was probably one of the best companions in New Who for actually getting things done, but incredibly poorly written and utilized.
 
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Mariolee

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All this talk about the previous series reminds me of how much of an astounding difference there is the cinematography of the show there was.
 
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grimshawish

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gabbo said:
Her stint on Torchwood is actually more interesting than most of her time with the Doctor and she's only there 4-5 episodes max.
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Interestingly she then went on to Chris Chibnall's next show - Law&Order UK after that.
So I wouldn't say she wasn't aware when she got better scripts or not.

I was surprised her and Noel Clarke didn't say no to the New Year return though, RTD would have changed it if they wanted to say goodbye better. Hell, why is Mickey not going home with Rose with them on their first date at the end? /sigh

RTD wrote EoT in one sitting, I wish someone else tried to make it better but it felt like the production team as a whole were just 'finishing things'.
 
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StealthGoblin

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My Eleventh Doctor costume is complete for my two weeks of teaching Doctor Who. I've managed to put it together for less than £100. Fez and stetson included.
 
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