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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Season 6 Night and the Doctor
1. Bad Night
2. Good Night
3. First Night
4. Last Night
There is a 5th but its unrelated. Finish Season 6 before you watch these due to possible... "spoilers" lol
1. Bad Night
2. Good Night
3. First Night
4. Last Night
There is a 5th but its unrelated. Finish Season 6 before you watch these due to possible... "spoilers" lol
APZonerunner
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What I miss is all the extra stuff. Series 2 through to the end of Tennant's specials we got a full episode commentary of two to three people released on the website immediately after the show aired; and it was a different one to the DVD, which would have a full commentary of two or three people for every single episode on the disc. On top of that, RTD and Julie Gardner did a 30-minute podcast which aired on one of the digital only BBC radio stations and the website in the weeks the show was on air. I can't describe how bitterly disappointed I am that not only are there no website commentaries for Series 5/6/7, but also that the DVDs/Blu-rays don't even have a commentary for every episode, but usually one per disc. It really bums me out.
Then again, these little things are realistically not the thing that was driving the show to those levels then - it was the relentless press machine, which I care much less about.. but I do miss the commentaries sorely, as they were always very up-to-date with events. I remember the Silence in the Library one particularly well as it was recorded the week Moffat was announced as taking over, so it was pretty much an hour of RTD and Tennant acting like fanboys grilling on what would/wouldn't change and taking the piss.
JonathanEx
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APZonerunner, I was going to tell you to stop because you keep saying everything I want to say. But then I realised you're saving me a lot of time. And it's good to know I'm not the only one with commentary gripes. They even stuck people who would actually be interesting on them rather than one-off episode specific cast and crew with no charisma!!!
I feel like Confidential's days were always numbered, and I personally felt the concept got really long in the tooth after a few years. There's only so much "zomg look at this location shooting we did and aren't we awesome!" you can fill a whole other half hour to hour long show with every week and not have it get really repetitive.
I know that's probably an unpopular opinion, but after a certain point it stopped being something that was selling the show and just became an hour the BBC probably increasingly felt could be better used.
I know that's probably an unpopular opinion, but after a certain point it stopped being something that was selling the show and just became an hour the BBC probably increasingly felt could be better used.
APZonerunner
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Confidential I don't really miss and isn't what I'm moaning about. It was fun, but you can only do so much navel gazing and only have so many music videos before it becomes boring. I didn't really watch it during series 4 or 5, though did watch the cut-downs on the DVD. The commentaries were always a freebie, though, a little nod for the really hardcore that cost bugger all to produce - the core cast and production team are at BBC Wales anyway, so it only takes them an hour to do, and the DVD ones actually have a budget - so it bums me out we get so few now.
StealthGoblin
Banned
I'd have preferred a lot more nitty-gritty in Confidential.
More script talk etc.
A 5-10 minute segment talking about a villain in days gone by etc.
More script talk etc.
A 5-10 minute segment talking about a villain in days gone by etc.
I know it's already been said, but "The Next Doctor" was kind of cheating.
We'll probably never be lucky enough to get two commentaries again per episode like we used to. One podcast one, and one on the DVD boxset ;_;
JonathanEx
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They kept making confidential longer, didn't they? Which didn't help. A few specials a year could still be coped with.
JonathanEx
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50TH ANNIVERSARY NONSENSE
@BBCWorldwideUK
2013 is the 50th birthday of Dr.Who. As part of the celebrations,BBC Worldwide is pleased to announce, coming in October...
'Shada' a 12 part animated web series starring Tom Baker with Rory Kinnear, Sheridan Smith & David Warner.Based on a story by Douglas Adams
IGNORE THIS, BLAH BLAH BLAH ALL WRONG
@BBCWorldwideUK
2013 is the 50th birthday of Dr.Who. As part of the celebrations,BBC Worldwide is pleased to announce, coming in October...
'Shada' a 12 part animated web series starring Tom Baker with Rory Kinnear, Sheridan Smith & David Warner.Based on a story by Douglas Adams
IGNORE THIS, BLAH BLAH BLAH ALL WRONG
Hot Coldman
Banned
A new(ish) 4th Doctor story? Wow.
Hopefully it's better animated than Dreamland.
Hopefully it's better animated than Dreamland.
infiniteloop
Member
Why not just redo the missing bits in shada with animation like Levine did?
JonathanEx
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INSTANT RETRACTION
Saw it RT'd off Blogtor Who who has now said it looks like a fake account.
SORRY ALL. On the plus side I just posted on a forum rather than did a games journalism over this mistake.
Saw it RT'd off Blogtor Who who has now said it looks like a fake account.
SORRY ALL. On the plus side I just posted on a forum rather than did a games journalism over this mistake.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
So this'll be what, the fourth version of Shada?
GameplayWhore
Member
You'll take your random pop music montage and you'll like it, mister!
Also I am going to live in the total fantasy world where Doug Adams just announced that he's coming out of retirement to write a prequel to Shada for the anniversary. This will be a wonderful way to ignore reality until the season resumes.
infiniteloop
Member
Yeah just noticed that.
Boy that'd be a hell of a return from retirement. You might call it a resurrection even.
Hot Coldman
Banned
OH WELL
That cast looked believable, as well.
That cast looked believable, as well.
JonathanEx
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At risk of fucking up twice in one day on 50th Anniversary things: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/d...ort-story-series-from-well-known-authors.html
Each eshort will be priced £1.99.
The collection will be published as a paperback in November, priced £7.99.
Each eshort will be priced £1.99.
The collection will be published as a paperback in November, priced £7.99.
infiniteloop
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Worthintendo
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I think I stopped watching Confidential after the 3rd or 4th series. I was more interested in it when it would take alot of time out to look back on the classic series and not just show you how the new series was made. I guess thats cause I'm a fan of classic Who and really liked hearing all the little stories about it
Exterminieren
Banned
There was some winking that JK Rowling might be involved, but I'm not sure if that was coming from a position of knowledge or not.
Please let Gaiman have one...
Box of Bunnies
Banned
This is much more interesting. Will buy the collected edition.
APZonerunner
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Gaiman's no children's author, and JK had the opportunity to be involved with Who before and turned it down. Still looking forward to this, mind - especially interested to see how they make the 1st-8th Doctors exciting for younger audiences who don't remember them.
Don't forget that, for adults, Big Finish are doing an audio adventure in collaboration with the BBC for each Doctor, one a month, from now through 'til November. The first story takes place before the very first episode of Who, and features Carole Ann Ford, who played Susan back in 63. It's not clear if the others - and more specifically the ones featuring living Doctors - will be audio books or full audio plays, but if it's the latter, it'll be the first for Eccleston/Tennant/Smith! Big Finish don't have the license for anything past 1996, and still don't, but it appears the BBC has made some one-time exceptions for the 50th.
Don't forget that, for adults, Big Finish are doing an audio adventure in collaboration with the BBC for each Doctor, one a month, from now through 'til November. The first story takes place before the very first episode of Who, and features Carole Ann Ford, who played Susan back in 63. It's not clear if the others - and more specifically the ones featuring living Doctors - will be audio books or full audio plays, but if it's the latter, it'll be the first for Eccleston/Tennant/Smith! Big Finish don't have the license for anything past 1996, and still don't, but it appears the BBC has made some one-time exceptions for the 50th.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I'm expecting Anthony Horowitz will be one of the authors.
Exterminieren
Banned
To play devils advocate a bit, does kids fiction starring the first eight Doctors not sort of imply that they're trying to make kids familiar with them?
I believe Charlie Higson's a fan too, so he might be involved.
EDIT: To throw fuel on the Gaiman bonfire, he's recently been watching The Curse of Fatal Death clips for a project.
Seems like a good shout.
I believe Charlie Higson's a fan too, so he might be involved.
Rowling turned down writing a script, a process she had little experience with. A piece of short fiction is a different thing entirely. And I don't care if Gaiman's purely a children's author, I want some Who prose from him.
If they managed to throw enough money at Eccleston to make it a full cast play, I am there like you wouldn't believe. Nine with Rose and Jack, please.
EDIT: To throw fuel on the Gaiman bonfire, he's recently been watching The Curse of Fatal Death clips for a project.
Dr Zhivago
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JK Rowling turned down a guest appearance (as herself, aliens were going to make her characters come to life), I don't think she was going to write an episode.
APZonerunner
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She turned down the opportunity to co-write a script for Series 4, because she got in touch with RTD in a jokey way about the expelliarmus reference in The Shakespeare Code, or thanked him at a party or something. She was going to get different treatment to everyone else; the offer was to write a treatment, which would then be fashioned into a more traditional script by a more experienced screenwriter. In fairness, at the time she turned it down because she was too busy. When brainstorming for "The Next Doctor", RTD threw around the idea of a story where some alien influence basically makes JK's stories come to life, making them real. She was never approached, though, as fairly quickly he asked Tennant about it. Tennant hated the idea, suggesting it was edging too close to the sun, and after a bit of thought RTD agreed the idea was rubbish and binned it. We got The Next Doctor instead.
Exterminieren
Banned
Rowling wasn't actually approached for that. It was an idea Davies was kicking around for the 2008 Christmas Special, but Tennant vetoed it.
Boy, it's a good thing we didn't get anything as fanbaiting, silly, and ridiculously over the top as all th....
... Oh.
APZonerunner
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And relax. Billie Piper categorically says 'no' when asked if she's been asked to do the 50th. Which is telling, when Eccleston said "if I told you that I'd have to kill you" and Tennant said "we'll see what happens"... This also means, of course, that if we do get Tennant it'll be the actual Doctor and not the meta crisis one.
APZonerunner
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Two cool bits of news:
They've revealed the first of the small e-books - the first Doctor one. It's called "A Big Hand For The Doctor" and is by Eoin Colfer, who writes the Artemis Fowl series of books. They do seem to be pretty kid-oriented, perhaps more so than the New Adventures books.
Also, Moffat's son has posted a pretty good interview with his dad on his YouTube channel. Talks 50th and other things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eu5xtc-x3k
They've revealed the first of the small e-books - the first Doctor one. It's called "A Big Hand For The Doctor" and is by Eoin Colfer, who writes the Artemis Fowl series of books. They do seem to be pretty kid-oriented, perhaps more so than the New Adventures books.
Also, Moffat's son has posted a pretty good interview with his dad on his YouTube channel. Talks 50th and other things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eu5xtc-x3k
Exterminieren
Banned
God, I loved the Artemis Fowl books when I was a kid. Great choice.
infiniteloop
Member
"He now sounds like an 80s Cyberman" lol
Same. Didn't get to finish the series, since I really just grew out of it, but it was a series that was a blast to read at the time.
Hot Coldman
Banned
The 5th Artemis Fowl book is easily the best in the series, and is a good showcase for Colfer's ability to write exciting adventures (even if that particular story is more Bond than Who). I'll give his 1st Doctor story a read, sure.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Wait, what? The Lost Colony? That's like the worst Artemis Fowl book! He starts screwing with the tone in ways I couldn't stand, even when I was younger and it first came out. The first or the third have to be the best.
first and second were quite enjoyable. I forgot about the third one.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Eh, I really liked it. The 4th one was dogshit, and the 5th one had both loads of new elements, antagonists who weren't completely unbearable, and a neat adventure tone. It was a bit of a drastic shift, but it was fucking welcome to me after the 4th, where I felt Eoin was losing the plot a bit. So boring.
Again, this is speaking as a child reader- if I read it nowadays, I could hate it for all I know.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
First three are some of my favorite YA fiction of all time.
Fourth was...good, I really disliked it when I first read it, but its grown on me. The fifth one I did not like, mostly because of No 1. The later books have been decent, but it feels like they've just become your standard YA modern fantasy, while the first three books were different somehow.
grimshawish
Banned
Fowl books were fucking fantastic. I remember not finding a book in a shop and being about to leave when the first book caught my eye. Guy behind the desk was telling me he just read it and enjoyed it too.
First book is mesmerising. Follow ups are just as good.
I think I grew up cause they lasted so long. May need to re-experience them at some point.
Might try the audiobook or something.
First book is mesmerising. Follow ups are just as good.
I think I grew up cause they lasted so long. May need to re-experience them at some point.
Might try the audiobook or something.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I read the sixth one, hated it (I have no idea why he kept bringing back that one character), figured I was too old for it, and dropped the series. Wikipedia tells me it got a bit weird since.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yeah, fifth book came out when I was 15, it was the last book in the series I read seriously. The later books I've read just out of respect for the first few, to see if any of them were ever as good.
I liked Confidential, but I agree with this. I think my favorite episode was the one they did for Blink...which had nothing to do with Blink at all, and was just an hour of Tennant and RTD nostalgia tripping.
I just Wiki'd Artemis Fowl to catch up, so to speak.
My reaction: "the fuck is this?"
I loved Confidential. At the same time, seeing how they did some of the scenes behind-the-scenes ruined them for me.
One of my favourite bits was when they did Vampires in Venice, and how they were able to emulate water reflections and a gondola's shadow by having reflective material on the ground, and the crew pushing a gondola cutout. So simple, super effective.
I also had a thing for Beth Willis, as weird as that may be.
My reaction: "the fuck is this?"
I loved Confidential. At the same time, seeing how they did some of the scenes behind-the-scenes ruined them for me.
One of my favourite bits was when they did Vampires in Venice, and how they were able to emulate water reflections and a gondola's shadow by having reflective material on the ground, and the crew pushing a gondola cutout. So simple, super effective.
I also had a thing for Beth Willis, as weird as that may be.
You mean this Beth Willis?
Nothing weird with that.
TBH she's almost better looking than Amy...
APZonerunner
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Tennant actually directed that episode of Confidential, thus it being what it was. Also -- Beth Willis is lovely, yes.
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