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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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maharg

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Too much retread of "Rory proves he loves Amy" that we'd already seen. The only highlight was all the screen time between Darvill and Smith, because they played off each other so well. For me, everything after Good Man Goes to War except God Complex and Closing Time were terrible.



That was a gif I saw when I first started watching the show, and still want to find it somewhere to see what the hell was going on.
The only 7th doctor I've seen is the one those pictures of Ace smashing a Dalek is from, and... man was Ace suppose to be an 80's stereotype or something? She was a decent companion as that goes, but everything about her (as a kid who grew up in the tail end of the 80's into the 90's) just screamed 'Trying too hard'

I've never really gotten the Ace love, personally, even after watching a bunch of her episodes.

I will say, though, that she's about a billion times better than any other companion from the 80s. Dark times indeed.
 
Doctor's Wife and God Complex are fantastic, Night Terrors is alright, but the rest are crap. Especially The Girl Who Waited, which is so bad that is Fear Her tier.

I'm not as hot on TGWW as most people are (I still like it), but it is nowhere near "Fear Her". That was...so boring. There's nothing going for it other than Ten lighting the Olympic Flame & parking the TARDIS in between two port-o-potties.
 
I'm not as hot on TGWW as most people are (I still like it), but it is nowhere near "Fear Her". That was...so boring. There's nothing going for it other than Ten lighting the Olympic Flame & parking the TARDIS in between two port-o-potties.

The scene of the Doctor lighting the Olympic Flame is one of the dumbest things ever.

Fear Her isn't godawful, but that scene definitely is. I've always felt Fear Her's biggest crime isn't being bad, just boring. It's hard to really care about anything because it's so uneventful.
 
The scene of the Doctor lighting the Olympic Flame is one of the dumbest things ever.

Fear Her isn't godawful, but that scene definitely is. I've always felt Fear Her's biggest crime isn't being bad, just boring. It's hard to really care about anything because it's so uneventful.

I remember reading once that the real script fell through at the list minute or something and they just whipped that story up in a matter of a few days.
 
I remember reading once that the real script fell through at the list minute or something and they just whipped that story up in a matter of a few days.

It replaced Stephen Fry's episode, yeah, which they simply ended up not having enough money to execute. They needed a script with a low effects budget they could film on location in Cardiff instead.

RE Series 6 - I do think it's the weakest series since the return. I think the reasons why it was so up and down are well documented, though - all the production problems discussed a few pages ago - I mean, the two Executive Producers were ousted from their jobs, jumping before they were pushed, as soon as the series was over. I also think the overall arc ended up getting laid on a bit thick, sometimes to the detriment of the story/monster of the week. 7 has been much, much, much better, back up to the quality of Series 5, which is some of the best modern Who has been.

Series 6 problems quoted from 2 pages ago:
It was in Private Eye, which is generally rock fucking solid. Also, unlike most of the British media they don't have a hard on for hurting the BBC as their editor is one of the key talent on one of the BBC's most successful panel shows. Here's what's said to have happened:

  • Terrible budgeting/scheduling on the Who production side (not the BBC bosses side) forced the Series 6 split
  • Willis employed her boyfriend during the overseas shoots of 'Vampires of Venice' and 'Vincent & The Doctor' and then booked a few weeks off after the filming was finished, staying in Croatia with her bloke at the BBC's expense (and don't forget, non-Brits, that's the taxpayer's money) after filming had wrapped.
  • Moffat had to change the episode order & do significant rewrites to Series 6 to give it a natural mid-series break point
  • Tracie Simpson (RTD Specials, Series 5) and Peter Bennett (a stalwart of the show, from 'Bad Wolf' through to 'The Big Bang') were both asked to return for Series 6 but refused due to the way they'd been treated by Wenger/Willis, and were a massive loss from production and for the first time without a 'handover' period teaching their replacement (ie Simpson was taught by Collinson before he left)

In the same issue they reported that the series 6 fuck ups were having a knock-on effect, and as a result we wouldn't get a full series in 2012, but a series of specials ala 2009... which actually didn't end up being too far from the truth. This was in June 2011. By this point Wenger had already gone, and less than a month later Willis followed. They're also the only higher-up people from Who to not get promoted massively after leaving the show - Wenger was shuffled sideways within the BBC, and Willis went back to her old job at Kudos (where she'd previously Produced Ashes to Ashes). All very telling. Still, if it's all true, good riddance. Quality difference in this year's episodes has been substantial.

That said, I think The Girl Who Waited stands as an incredible use of the Doctor 'light' double banking episode, really. Very clever. Love that episode.
 

mclem

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I think I'm going to have to buy this shirt:
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Like the high score.

That was a gif I saw when I first started watching the show, and still want to find it somewhere to see what the hell was going on.

If you're talking about mine, it's episode one of Dragonfire.
 
Love how they actually got the proclaimers to have a cameo too, though Tennant was in their video for the re-release of 500 miles so maybe they know each other.
 

Ruze789

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'Always bring a banana to a party.'
--Tenth Doctor

And a quick internet search engine search for Doctor Who 5.15 shows that this year's Christmas special aired at 5:15 on BBC1, as well as the first episode.
 
Smiley apple is the one Amelia Pond gave the doctor when they met.

Ohhh, riiiight.

I still think fish fingers and custard should be there. And jelly babies, for that matter.


A banana is a good source of potassium.

Ye….es? Which doctor has bananas or is obsessed with K?

Or have I really forgotten everything about Matt Smith because he's been off the air for three weeks?
 

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Game Score: 50 - 50th Anniversary
High Score: 23111963 - 23rd November 1963
Level: 11 - 11th Doctor
Time: 5.15 - Time of first broadcast.
Key - TARDIS Key
Geronimo! - Geronimo!
Apple - Amy's smiley apple
Banana - multiple references
Bell - cloister bell
Ghosts - Daleks
Pac Man - 11th Doctor with bowtie and fez

Is there any significance to the three regenerations? I know that the previous canon was the Doctor only had 13 regenerations, but being 11th, with the 3 would make it 14.
 

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Is there any significance to the three regenerations? I know that the previous canon was the Doctor only had 13 regenerations, but being 11th, with the 3 would make it 14.
I think they just replaced lives with regenerations. The number of them has no significance.
 

gabbo

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Game Score: 50 - 50th Anniversary
High Score: 23111963 - 23rd November 1963
Level: 11 - 11th Doctor
Time: 5.15 - Time of first broadcast.
Key - TARDIS Key
Geronimo! - Geronimo!
Apple - Amy's smiley apple
Banana - multiple references
Bell - cloister bell
Ghosts - Daleks
Pac Man - 11th Doctor with bowtie and fez

Is there any significance to the three regenerations? I know that the previous canon was the Doctor only had 13 regenerations, but being 11th, with the 3 would make it 14.

That's putting too much thought into the shirt.
 

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How many times has Smith "died" during his run? Maybe it's that?

Let's see:

"Forgotten" by Amy on The Big Bang, later brought back.
Shot by the astronaut on Lake Silencio in The Impossible Astronaut, turns out to be a fakeout.
Shot by River, dying during Let's Kill Hitler, River sacrifices her regenerations to save him.

Hmm.
 

Fuu

Formerly Alaluef (not Aladuf)
Martha Not Returning for 50th Anniversary

Will Martha make an appearance for Doctor Who’s 50th Anniversary? According to Freema Agyeman, fans shouldn’t hold their breath.

There have been rumours brought on by some of Agyeman’s comments previously. However in a recent interview Agyeman claims she will only be doing publicity to help promote the big occasion.

Agyeman told Crave: “I’m doing two things for the 50th but nothing to do with being in the drama.

“I got misquoted hideously once saying that there are some rumblings going on about being involved in the 50th in terms of the drama. It’s not. It’s in terms of conventions and interviews and things like that, which we’re all doing stuff to promote the 50th. We have to. It’s the ‘Doctor Who’ family and we want to.

“I think in terms of my involvement in the show, that’s a different thing now. It moves on, it changes and that’s a good thing.”

So looks like another companion we can cross off the list…
http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/martha-not-returning-for-50th-anniversary-44454.htm
 
I think Martha gets a lot of unjustified stick in a big way, partially because her development is intrinsically tied to Last of the Time Lords, which... yeah. When I think Martha I just think her in Human Nature, really, and also what she becomes in the Sontaran stories, which is something better and worse all at once. I liked how she became the soldier, though. She's the ultimate example of how he turns people into horrible things. The whole thing where she's talking about blowing up the earth... Doctor done fucked up.

The only companion who he hasn't ended up twisting into something he'd usually hate in the new series is Donna, and that's because she got memory wiped. She probably would've gone down a bad route in the end, too.

I had no expectation for her in the 50th as she's largely unremarkable. She's not 'special' like Rose. I reckon there's a decent possibility of her popping up in a UNIT base in the future though, be that in a decade or whatever. Sarah Jane style. Or the Brigadier, who sadly never made it into New Who but was in SJA at least before Courtney passed. If she's doing two things, maybe she'll be in the Tennant audio Big Finish are doing, hmm?
 

Goldrush

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Martha was a rebound from Rose. That was literally the point of her character.

She was potentially one of the most abled companion the Doctor ever had. Unfortunately, she spent her entire time with the Doctor wooing him beside actually using her medical background. At least, she shined afterward, though.
 

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She was potentially one of the most abled companion the Doctor ever had. Unfortunately, she spent her entire time with the Doctor wooing him beside actually using her medical background. At least, she shined afterward, though.

Yeah, then she ended up with Mickey.

Yikes.
 
Started watching last August with my roommate and got hooked so we marathon'd Doctors 9 through 11 in half a year. Now I can finally enter this thread without much fear of spoilers!

But now there are no more episodes and it makes me sad.

Yeah, then she ended up with Mickey.

Yikes.
That's one thing my friend and I never got. She was engaged to someone, but then ended up with Mickey. Did they ever explain that? I feel like I missed something.
 
Started watching last August with my roommate and got hooked so we marathon'd Doctors 9 through 11 in half a year. Now I can finally enter this thread without much fear of spoilers!

But now there are no more episodes and it makes me sad.

That's one thing my friend and I never got. She was engaged to someone, but then ended up with Mickey. Did they ever explain that? I feel like I missed something.

Martha shows up in Torchwood a bit and during that it's suggested her relationship with the other guy is collapsing. By the time she goes to work for UNIT in New York partway through Torchwood series 2 and after the sontaran story in series 4 of Who, they're finished. That's what you get when you freakishly stalk somebody you met in an aborted timeline where circumstances forced them to be a different person, I guess. I always thought that was... Weird.

also it was tidy

Welcome to the thread! Would love to hear your thoughts on the series; we always get a kick out of hearing e accounts of newcomers to the show.
 
They are both black characters.

Funnily enough, almost every couple in RTD era Who, from major ones like Donna's two husbands and Rose and Mickey through to the damn cat guy in Gridlock is mixed race. Every single black person in an on-screen relationship is with a white person -- the only exception is Martha and Mickey.

There were stories in some more right wing UK newspapers suggesting the BBC was pushing a left wing agenda because almost all the couples in Doctor Who were either gay or mixed race. No joke.
 
Funnily enough, almost every couple in RTD era Who, from major ones like Donna's two husbands and Rose and Mickey through to the damn cat guy in Gridlock is mixed race. Every single black person in an on-screen relationship is with a white person -- the only exception is Martha and Mickey.

There were stories in some more right wing UK newspapers suggesting the BBC was pushing a left wing agenda because almost all the couples in Doctor Who were either gay or mixed race. No joke.

GAY AGENDA

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People are mental. The glorious thing is that Moffat is even worse/better for it in a sense, and these people are incredibly incensed about things like the Clara/Oswin 'Nina' line and Jenny/Vastra, screaming the roof off. I love it.

You could have so much fun being a (bad) admin there. It'd be like running an asylum, but winding people up and banning people for ridiculous views.

Obviously - not any responsible way to run a forum, but god it'd be a blast.
 

Raoh

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She was potentially one of the most abled companion the Doctor ever had. Unfortunately, she spent her entire time with the Doctor wooing him beside actually using her medical background. At least, she shined afterward, though.

That is true, didn't think about that.

Yeah, then she ended up with Mickey.

Yikes.

LOL, that was a head scratcher. I just took it as someone said "hey, look, two black characters, lets have them hook up"
 

Raoh

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Any word on the 12th Doctor?

I'd like to see one of these:

Idris Elba
Robert Sheehan
James Nesbitt
Shame we never got a second season to Jekyll

EDIT:
Just realized, will they finally give the doctor ginger hair.
 

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That's one thing my friend and I never got. She was engaged to someone, but then ended up with Mickey. Did they ever explain that? I feel like I missed something.

No explanation at all. In Journey's End, we see Jack and Martha walk away together, then Mickey pops out, tells the Doctor he's no longer needed in the parallel universe and runs off to both of them, zero hints of anything happening.

LOL, that was a head scratcher. I just took it as someone said "hey, look, two black characters, lets have them hook up"

This is pretty much what I think it is. And if we're going by real time, and not anything involving fast forwarding in time, it's been about a year and half between Journey's End and The End of Time. Pretty quick for Martha to ditch her fiance and subsequently marry Mickey.
 
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