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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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infiniteloop

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APZonerunner said:
http://twitter.com/BlogtorWho/status/293718450877104128/photo/1

From the BBC booth at a UK trade show thing.

Bit gutted that, if this is correct, the 50th special will only be one hour long episode. I was hoping for something like The End of Time, length wise.
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Another pic from a Toy Fair, spoiler for long discussed returning alien:

http://merchandise.thedoctorwhosite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/dr-who-co-13.jpg

I want one of these:

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CorrisD

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APZonerunner said:
http://twitter.com/BlogtorWho/status/293718450877104128/photo/1

From the BBC booth at a UK trade show thing.

Bit gutted that, if this is correct, the 50th special will only be one hour long episode. I was hoping for something like The End of Time, length wise.
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That's disappointing and lame, we've gotten longer than 60 minute episodes for things that I would consider less important than a 50th anniversary, I was expecting at minimum an hour and half.
 
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APZonerunner

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Interesting that Blogtor deleted the tweet. BBC moaned at them, I suppose. Is a trade show, after all. Take my word, though - it listed Who TV programming this year and said it "included":
Series 7b (8 eps, Spring)
Doctor Who Revisited (11x 25m, throughout the year)
50th Anniversary Special (Autumn, 1x 60m)
Adventures in Space & Time (Autumn, 1x 90m)

These toys seem to have some hints/spoilers at what goes on in 7b. Click at your own risk, but keep in mind the BBC is obviously confident enough to show them semi-publicly.

Big Ben...? http://t.co/qZllfuI6 / http://t.co/sNSpHhnN
And these guys IN FRONT of Big Ben? http://t.co/4rdHtt6l
Platforms like this appeared in the 60s Dalek movies, but this is New Who design with a New Who Dalek
And... I guess this thing might make an appearance? http://twitter.com/BlogtorWho/status/293728813492342784/photo/1
Slightly camp promo image of new Cybermen: http://t.co/dEWdG6D7
A new Clara costume, not featured in trailers etc: http://t.co/megZ0N3X

Not so sure about the Lego stuff, but the Big Ben stuff has to be real, as that's a still of a CGI shot. This looks like some RTD-era 'massive event' stuff not seen since The Stolen Earth. Hmm...
 
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Thomper

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APZonerunner said:
Interesting that Blogtor deleted the tweet. BBC moaned at them, I suppose. Is a trade show, after all. Take my word, though - it listed Who TV programming this year and said it "included":
Series 7b (8 eps, Spring)
Doctor Who Revisited (11x 25m, throughout the year)
50th Anniversary Special (Autumn, 1x 60m)
Adventures in Space & Time (Autumn, 1x 90m)
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Would that really be everything? I was hoping there'd be a Series 8 in Autumn working up to the Anniversary Special, or at least an 8a with a few episodes.
 
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infiniteloop

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Thomper said:
Would that really be everything? I was hoping there'd be a Series 8 in Autumn working up to the Anniversary Special, or at least an 8a with a few episodes.
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Doesn't look like it. They're filming the docudrama thing in a couple of weeks, then the anniversary episode starting April. The rest of Series 7 is already filmed.


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Not so sure about the Lego stuff, but the Big Ben stuff has to be real, as that's a still of a CGI shot. This looks like some RTD-era 'massive event' stuff not seen since The Stolen Earth. Hmm...
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Does seem pretty likely. There was that weird gun thing a little while that had some plot on the back that people were positive would show up and it didn't.
 
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APZonerunner

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Thomper said:
Would that really be everything? I was hoping there'd be a Series 8 in Autumn working up to the Anniversary Special, or at least an 8a with a few episodes.
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It says "includes", so there is a chance of more episodes, but there will 100% not be a Series 8 in 2013. Initial rumours indicated that it'd be more than one special - three was thrown about for a long while - but perhaps that fell through. Either way, definitely not a full series - they would've already begun filming at this point if they were going to do a full 13, or even a split the series as they did this year.

If all that leaked is correct the Series 6 mid-season gap and the Series 7 split across 2 years came about due to production problems and was a mistake. The BBC probably want to reset the show to starting at Easter and running straight through, as it did for its first five years.

There's some rumours circling right now on the forums and stuff (from what I can gather, anyway - I only lurk and don't post) from sources who have been right sometimes and wrong other times that production problems mean that another split is being considered for Series 8 over 2014/2015, but I can't believe that this would actually be the case. It seems insanity that things would stay this way.

Something else dawned on me today: Moffat's on his fourth year this year. Fifth, if you count the fact he was prepping and writing Series 5 during 2009 while Tennant was doing the specials. One has to wonder how long he's going to stick around for, too. Everything is coming to a head! Very exciting times.
 
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CorrisD

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Thomper said:
Would that really be everything? I was hoping there'd be a Series 8 in Autumn working up to the Anniversary Special, or at least an 8a with a few episodes.
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I thought it was a given this year tbh, with the second half of series 7 and an anniversary episode that we wouldn't be getting anything else till Christma. Doctor Who since its return has always be on around March-April till thing a started getting messed around, so I wouldn't be surprised if they want to put it back to having the whole series during that time and not just half.
 
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EleventhDoctor

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Wow-one episode for the 50th Anniversary-and remember Moffet was saying things like "We're going into the longest production and shooting for Doctor Who! Big surprises in store!"

I wonder how much more behind the scenes drama with the money and budget is going on here.
 
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Thomper

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APZonerunner said:
It says "includes", so there is a chance of more episodes, but there will 100% not be a Series 8 in 2013. Initial rumours indicated that it'd be more than one special - three was thrown about for a long while - but perhaps that fell through. Either way, definitely not a full series - they would've already begun filming at this point if they were going to do a full 13, or even a split the series as they did this year.

If all that leaked is correct the Series 6 mid-season gap and the Series 7 split across 2 years came about due to production problems and was a mistake. The BBC probably want to reset the show to starting at Easter and running straight through, as it did for its first five years.

There's some rumours circling right now on the forums and stuff (from what I can gather, anyway - I only lurk and don't post) from sources who have been right sometimes and wrong other times that production problems mean that another split is being considered for Series 8 over 2014/2015, but I can't believe that this would actually be the case. It seems insanity that things would stay this way.

Something else dawned on me today: Moffat's on his fourth year this year. Fifth, if you count the fact he was prepping and writing Series 5 during 2009 while Tennant was doing the specials. One has to wonder how long he's going to stick around for, too. Everything is coming to a head! Very exciting times.
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I would've been okay with a split between season-halves for the next few seasons - that's what I was under the impression was the case. And like MDavis360, I thought there were all these grand plans to make more episodes than ever. I fully understand that Moffat's overworking himself as is, but still... 8 already filmed episodes and an Anniversary special plus some minor extra productions around the sides?

I really hope that whatever the production problems have been behind the scenes get cleared up soon enough so we can get back to 13 episodes a year, every year. I'm sure Doctor Who'll get pretty great ratings whenever it airs, but I feel like they could've gone a liiiittle more all out for the Anniversary. But who knows, the plans haven't even been offically announced yet, so perhaps Moffat'll surprise us just yet.

(And at least we'll have some Sherlock this year, too. Poor Sherlock-fans, having to survive on just three episodes every 12 to 18 months)
 
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EleventhDoctor

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Thomper said:
I would've been okay with a split between season-halves for the next few seasons - that's what I was under the impression was the case. And like MDavis360, I thought there were all these grand plans to make more episodes than ever. I fully understand that Moffat's overworking himself as is, but still... 8 already filmed episodes and an Anniversary special plus some minor extra productions around the sides?

I really hope that whatever the production problems have been behind the scenes get cleared up soon enough so we can get back to 13 episodes a year, every year. I'm sure Doctor Who'll get pretty great ratings whenever it airs, but I feel like they could've gone a liiiittle more all out for the Anniversary. But who knows, the plans haven't even been offically announced yet, so perhaps Moffat'll surprise us just yet.

(And at least we'll have some Sherlock this year, too. Poor Sherlock-fans, having to survive on just three episodes every 12 to 18 months)
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Rumor is it might not even air this year....
 
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Thomper

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MDavis360 said:
Rumor is it might not even air this year....
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Nah. They'll film it in March/April, is what we've been told, and I can't imagine the BBC sitting on it for 9 months. It'll probably be a Fall-show, though maaaaybe they'll air it around Christmas again. If it's 2014, it'll be extremely early 2014.
 
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APZonerunner

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Thomper said:
I would've been okay with a split between season-halves for the next few seasons - that's what I was under the impression was the case. And like MDavis360, I thought there were all these grand plans to make more episodes than ever. I fully understand that Moffat's overworking himself as is, but still... 8 already filmed episodes and an Anniversary special plus some minor extra productions around the sides?

I really hope that whatever the production problems have been behind the scenes get cleared up soon enough so we can get back to 13 episodes a year, every year. I'm sure Doctor Who'll get pretty great ratings whenever it airs, but I feel like they could've gone a liiiittle more all out for the Anniversary. But who knows, the plans haven't even been offically announced yet, so perhaps Moffat'll surprise us just yet.

(And at least we'll have some Sherlock this year, too. Poor Sherlock-fans, having to survive on just three episodes every 12 to 18 months)
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To be honest, I don't have that much sympathy for the work load. I love Moffat, but at this point the previous production team was running three shows (four including confidential), all of them successful. We've gone from four to one. Two this year with Adventures in Time and Space, which is a one-off. Some of that is down to the Tories taking a machete to the BBC budget, but nowhere near all of it. I don't think that's down to Moffat - RTD was a bipolar mentalist half the time, but he had a really incredible support network. I think Moffat has maybe just been surrounded by some shit careerist people, though, attracted by the show's success, as people like that are.
 
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infiniteloop said:
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The other shirt they've got going is pretty rad as well. Ordered both of them.

APZonerunner said:
Interesting that Blogtor deleted the tweet. BBC moaned at them, I suppose. Is a trade show, after all. Take my word, though - it listed Who TV programming this year and said it "included":
Series 7b (8 eps, Spring)
Doctor Who Revisited (11x 25m, throughout the year)
50th Anniversary Special (Autumn, 1x 60m)
Adventures in Space & Time (Autumn, 1x 90m)
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Oh boy, another year with only half a season. Joy.
 
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8bit

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Returning on March 30th : http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Date-Confirmed-for-the-Doctors-Return

bbc said:
We can confirm that Doctor Who returns to BBC One during the Easter weekend on Saturday, 30 March, 2013.

The Doctor is back in a fantastic adventure written by the show’s lead writer and executive producer, Steven Moffat. The episode - the first in a run of 8 - is directed by Colm McCarthy whose previous credits include Hustle, Spooks and Endeavour.

Later adventures in the run include episodes written by Mark Gatiss (Victory of the Daleks, Night Terrors) and Neil Gaiman.

Steven Moffat has promised us that in terms of Doctor Who, 2013 will be a ‘tremendous’ year and we’ll be bringing you more about the forthcoming adventures soon. But if you can’t wait for the TARDIS to return on 30 March, you can take a brief look now at what’s in store for the Doctor, Clara and some familiar friends… and foes!
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APZonerunner

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Super glad it's Easter. Huzzah!

Blogtor now has a higher quality photo of the toy play sets from what I think it's pretty easy to assume are the two season finales - The Angels Take Manhattan, of course, but then another... thing. These were shown at a toy fair, so the BBC was happy to show them to the trade, but, spoilers.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-abqyv05lmak/UP_hL8S2nXI/AAAAAAAAbYE/STkNPN_oymI/s1600/co1.JPG

Daleks attaching giant guns to Big Ben! 60s Dalek-style Platforms they'll probably fly about on! And an entrance to a Dalek ship... Hmm. A big invasion finale for the first time under Moff...
 
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I'd probably spoiler that for people who don't want to know who the baddies are, but...

Character options have never done a 'generic' play set or figure - everything they've ever done in the last 8 years has been directly related to a specific story.

Plus, the background image of the London skyline full of Daleks and Big Ben with a Dalek top where the clock tower should be and a Dalek gun on each side, one of them firing, is a CGI still. Clear, easy to tell. Character Options aren't in the business of generating these on their own; too expensive.

A similar render using the Mill's assets is used for the Angels set with the giant statue of Liberty, too. This is absolutely from the show.
 
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8bit

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Surely these don't necessarily indicate plot points though? Wasn't there a toy before that was a gun made up of bits of a Dalek, a Cyberman & an Angel that was supposed to remove things from time?

It seems I'm thinking of this:

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APZonerunner

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8bit said:
Surely these don't necessarily indicate plot points though? Wasn't there a toy before that was a gun made up of bits of a Dalek, a Cyberman & an Angel that was supposed to remove things from time?

It seems I'm thinking of this:
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They've got the "create your own sonic screwdriver" set, too, but these "Make your own" sets for kids to role play are, I think, different from the action figures.

When I said they've never made anything not directly from the show, I meant in the action figure/play set line. For instance, they've never made a Dalek colour that hasn't been in the show in the action figure line or anything like that. They're not allowed. Given that these slot into the episode play set line, and were displayed alongside sets from the Angels take Manhattan, A Town Called Mercy and the new Cyberman Episode plus the CG background very likely ripped direct from the show makes me imagine these are from an episode.
 
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There was the 'trans-temporal sonic screwdriver' as well. Both that and the gun had little plot fragments on the back of the boxes, seemed a bit of a strange thing to make up (if they were making it up, why not a full story rather than a short synopsis?).
 
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infiniteloop

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8bit said:
Surely these don't necessarily indicate plot points though? Wasn't there a toy before that was a gun made up of bits of a Dalek, a Cyberman & an Angel that was supposed to remove things from time?
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Yup, and people were absolutely 100% positive that the plot from that toy would be a future episode. Must've missed that one.
 
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thequickandthedead

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Thanks for all your replies guys. So the gist of it is that each incarnation of the doctor has the same memories but a diferent personality. I guess you could argue that personality is what really defines a person but thats a whole other debate.
 
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Sotha Sil

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thequickandthedead said:
Thanks for all your replies guys. So the gist of it is that each incarnation of the doctor has the same memories but a diferent personality. I guess you could argue that personality is what really defines a person but thats a whole other debate.
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I agree with the poster(s) who argued the Doctor has a "core" personality, with quirks and tastes specific to each regeneration. I'm not really familiar with Classic Who, though; might be wrong.
 
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Locke_211

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That's what I'd say it was like. And remember that, especially towards the end, one of the defining characteristics of the 10th Doctor was his hubris, or self-satisfaction, or arrogance if you want to call it that. It would make sense that he more than the others is desperate to cling onto the personality, or sense of self, he currently has rather than sacrifice it to another. Though this makes his actions at the end of End of Time Part 2 more meaningful!
 
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Quick

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I'd like to think that the Doctor has his core characteristics, enhanced by a constantly evolving personality, where bits and pieces reappear or stick depending on which reincarnation.
 
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