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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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EleventhDoctor
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I do believe that to be the case-I mean the resemblance is strong. I wonder if he was setting that up but in the interim Carey Mulligan got popular and went off to do movies so he re-wrote the character.
APZonerunner
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It's just how Moffat writes and characterises couples, really. He likes strong women and useless, slightly impotent (but strong underneath) men. Watch anything else he's done, especially Coupling. Another thing about it is that for that kind of stuff his sitcom background really comes out, and he really writes those character beats in a sitcom style - and that helps to build a similarity too.
As a side note, he did indicate on Outpost Gallifrey, back when he used to post there (when RTD was in charge) that he had no intention to continue their story; they were a deliberate one-off. He used to answer questions on there quite a lot, but has stopped since he became public enemy #1 by being the showrunner.
Pretty much. He also is just really interested in couples in general, as well as the idea of maturing through a relationship. All very common themes in his work.
My wife and I decided to run through the series starting from 2005 on. We finished Eccleston's run tonight. My god, I'd forgotten how good he was as the Doctor, expecially given some of the crap he was given. (I'm looking at you, Slitheen.) I honestly didn't like Tennant at first - he was way too manic compared to Eccleston.
EleventhDoctor
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Eccleston was the best Doctor with the worst material.
Box of Bunnies
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That title goes to Baker II. Eccles actually had some good episodes amongst the crap.
APZonerunner
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Christ alive! Rose, Dalek, Father's Day, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, Bad Wolf and Parting of the Ways are bad? Get your head tested, mate.
Series one is fine. The Long game is truly shit and the Slitheen are a bad idea, but even the less quality episodes of Series 1 are pretty important - The Unquiet Dead is just "fine" and isn't bad at all, while The End of the World and Boom Town are really important tone setters for the intended size/scope of the show and the Doctor's morality respectively.
Series 1 certainly isn't the worst one since the return. I think that's crazy talk.
acheron_xl
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Totally agree. Sometimes, I swear I can see 6's snotty attitude popping up from time to time in Smith's characterization. Plus, Baker has been pretty good in audio form. He was almost entirely wasted during his run.
EleventhDoctor
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Those are good, yes-I guess when I think of his tenure, I think of walking mannequins, hungry trash cans, farting aliens, The Big Brother house and the Annedroid. But yes you're right-there are some good ones there.
Exterminieren
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Series 1 suffered a lot from the whole team not being entirely certain about what Doctor Who should be like, hence farting aliens and burping bins (neither of which were in RTD's scripts to anywhere near the extent that they were on screen).
The Annedroid episode was pretty great. Jack literally pulling a gun out of his ass? lol
APZonerunner
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The bin burp isn't in the script at all and was a directorial decision. In the script the bin is sort of described as a savage, fast thing, but it was filmed like something from a CBBC show. Similar's true of the farting, farting was meant to be a giveaway of the Slitheen, but it ended up being played and directed in a really slapstick way and far too frequently. That Director (Boak, I think) was the one Eccleston had screaming rows with on set and the one RTD/Gardner banned from the show, thus him never returning after the the three he filmed (Rose, Aliens of London, World War Three.)
It's a shame, as the bin burp is the one mark against a really great episode, I think - Autons are fine, I thinki, they were the same as they ever were. The Slitheen, meanwhile, are portrayed much better in Boom Town, where the farting is actually non-existent despite Margaret being in her human form for almost the entire episode. That was filmed before the oriignal Slitheen episodes aired, so it's clear that the production team knew it'd been overcooked in the original eps. Alas. I really do think it's a shame, as much of what is in those two episodes are great ideas - the returning late and Rose being 'missing' is something that of course would actually happen but had never been done before, the Big Ben destruction was great, and I love just about everything in Downing Street, with the Doctor trapped in one room for the entire second part... but the Slitheen are just crap. Shame.
I... really liked the game show stuff. I thought that stuff was stupid but in a very fun way.
Exterminieren
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I'd put the scripts for Aliens of London and World War III as amongst the finest RTD ever put out for the show, but Keith Boak put them on their knees and shot them in the back of the head, unfortunately.
Yeah, Keith Boak made an arse of it. It was only later in the series when it seemed to regain some seriousness that it looked good. I watched the leak of Rose and though it wouldn't last more than a year.
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infiniteloop
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An Adventure in Space and Time filming:
In the TARDIS:
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In the TARDIS:
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infiniteloop
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Good Moffat interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7VQrnMzjrU
drops some hints about the upcoming season. Hilarious comment about an older episode title he wrote.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7VQrnMzjrU
drops some hints about the upcoming season. Hilarious comment about an older episode title he wrote.
Hah. Also interesting to hear him say Beast Below was a bit of a mess. Nice to see at least one question offer him an opportunity for genuine reflection.
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Hah, first thing I thought as well
Lactose_Intolerant
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Broadchurch
Eight-part drama series Broadchurch begins airing on ITV in the UK next month and on BBC America later this year as part of its Dramaville drama block. The series stars David Tennant, Olivia Colman, Vicky McClure and Arthur Darvill. In the vein of The Killing, the ensemble explores what happens to a small coastal community when a media frenzy comes to town after a young boy is murdered.
I'm going to call it and say Arthur Darvill is a pedophile priest.
Eight-part drama series Broadchurch begins airing on ITV in the UK next month and on BBC America later this year as part of its Dramaville drama block. The series stars David Tennant, Olivia Colman, Vicky McClure and Arthur Darvill. In the vein of The Killing, the ensemble explores what happens to a small coastal community when a media frenzy comes to town after a young boy is murdered.
I'm going to call it and say Arthur Darvill is a pedophile priest.
infiniteloop
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Also "created" by Chris Chibnall
Looks good, shall give it a watch
Looks good, shall give it a watch
peanutbutterlatte
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Woah, move over Karen.
Exterminieren
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The interview confirms Jenna's staying on for the anniversary special and series 8.
infiniteloop
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nicceeeee
EleventhDoctor
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Oh my god
mightynine
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Jeepers, she's purty.
Story is kind of cute in parts but the art is awful.
APZonerunner
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Hnnnng.
Expected she's staying on! Good news to be confirmed at any rate. I still believe she might be with another Doctor in 2014, though...!
Expected she's staying on! Good news to be confirmed at any rate. I still believe she might be with another Doctor in 2014, though...!
EleventhDoctor
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Hot Coldman
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oh dear oh my
He should dress like this in the show.
This was his promo shot, which a lot of people thought was going to be his Doctor's attire in the show.
I think the above shot, and the one I posted are way too plain for the Doctor.
Though, Matt Smith is rocking the shoes and rolled up pants just fine.
This was his promo shot, which a lot of people thought was going to be his Doctor's attire in the show.
I think the above shot, and the one I posted are way too plain for the Doctor.
Though, Matt Smith is rocking the shoes and rolled up pants just fine.
I think it's better less gimmicky.
Also who do you peeps think should play the Valeyard during the Doctor's 12th regeneration?
infiniteloop
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Hopefully he's resigned to the rubbish bin of history where he belongs.
GameplayWhore
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I don't remember the details of his appearance (was it "Trial of a Time Lord"?), but isn't the idea of the Doctor becoming his own rogue something that can be worked in an interesting way, even if it's not precisely the same as the character was previously? After all, they did rework villains from Classic Who in recent years, often making them either entirely different in behavior (The Master) or altering their origin story (Cybermen).
Heck, they can just bullshit up some sort of
incoming fanwank alert
edit: in before "Wait a minute, those changes they made to the Master and Cybermen were horrible!"
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I don't remember the details of his appearance (was it "Trial of a Time Lord"?), but isn't the idea of the Doctor becoming his own rogue something that can be worked in an interesting way, even if it's not precisely the same as the character was previously? After all, they did rework villains from Classic Who in recent years, often making them either entirely different in behavior (The Master) or altering their origin story (Cybermen).
Heck, they can just bullshit up some sort ofrare Regeneration Mitosis where he splits during regeneration into a Good Doctor and a Bad Doctor.incoming fanwank alert
edit: in before "Wait a minute, those changes they made to the Master and Cybermen were horrible!"
I kinda want to see the Valeyard turned into something that the Doctor has to fight against; sorta like a possession. Dark!Doctor is always tasty, so it'll be epic win. Also, would thrust any companions into the hero role quickly, fighting against him to save him, etc. Of course in the end he would prevail, but it would be an awesome couple of a episodes.
peanutbutterlatte
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Dreamlord > Valeyard.
I would like to see an 'evil side' of the Doctor revisited, but much like 'regeneration limits', the Valeyard is something that can easily be handwaved away by the fact that Time Lords aren't about to enforce the rules.
There is no reason The Valeyard needs to exist in a post Time-War universe beyond the fact it's a neat idea and a neat name, and a whole lot of what he brings to the table is served by The Master.
I do have a weakness for 'dark mirror' characters though, and the writing of Moriarty on Sherlock shows that Moffat can do that shit - even if hack that I am, I'd go for more 'bearded Spock style of evil versions.
There is no reason The Valeyard needs to exist in a post Time-War universe beyond the fact it's a neat idea and a neat name, and a whole lot of what he brings to the table is served by The Master.
I do have a weakness for 'dark mirror' characters though, and the writing of Moriarty on Sherlock shows that Moffat can do that shit - even if hack that I am, I'd go for more 'bearded Spock style of evil versions.
grimshawish
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It is known.
Hot Coldman
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I much prefer them surfacing the dark side of the Doctor in the actions he takes. Recent episodes have been good about that, A Town Called Mercy in particular.
Made an NBA avatar from that image for whoever wants it. I used Tardis Blue for the outline colour.
equippedwithtowel
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I agree with the sentiment but A Town Called Mercy honestly felt like a step down towards how the show views moral gray areas, or at least the dilemma felt very forced.
Hot Coldman
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It's a divisive episode. I didn't much enjoy it at first but upon rewatch I "got" it. It's not a fantastic episode- hell, I preferred the Dinosaurs episode preceding it- but I think it tries to tackle some interesting themes and doesn't fuck it up.
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