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[Dr Zhivago]

They've been reshowing Series 6 on BBC 3, and I noticed there's a line in The Girl Who Waited that directly contradicts Angels Take Manhattan.

In ATM, the Doctor says that learning your future makes it unchangeable, hence why he stops Amy reading from the Melody Malone book. However, in TGWW he says the exact opposite - Old Amy is wondering if she can change her future when she know what it is, and the Doctor tells her that 'sometimes knowing your future is what allows you to change it'.

I always felt there was something off about that aspect of ATM, but I didn't realise it had been so recently stated otherwise.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

There's no reason to take anything the Doctor tells Old Amy as fact given he lies to her at other times and his whole motivation through the episode is killing her.

 

[Dr Zhivago]

There's no reason to take anything the Doctor tells Old Amy as fact given his whole motivation through the episode is killing her.

Except he's correct, she does change her future. We see quite categorically that knowing your future does not condemn you to act it out.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

Except he's correct, she does change her future. We see quite categorically that knowing your future does not condemn you to act it out.

Oh yeah, of course. Derp. Just thinking of that episode has made me stupid.

 

[APZonerunner]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJlQxrAPBRk

Good for a laugh. (Also, how weird is it seeing those credits with the Eccleston/Tennant Series 2 theme over them? It's really wrong. Feels weird.)

 

[gabbo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJlQxrAPBRk

Good for a laugh. (Also, how weird is it seeing those credits with the Eccleston/Tennant Series 2 theme over them? It's really wrong. Feels weird.)

The German seemed like a natural fit for the Doctor and the Italian for how I always picture River.

 

[Box of Bunnies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJlQxrAPBRk

Good for a laugh. (Also, how weird is it seeing those credits with the Eccleston/Tennant Series 2 theme over them? It's really wrong. Feels weird.)

Heh, that's kinda neat. The Japanese dub is of particular interest to tokusatsu and Gundam fans as the Tenth Doctor is voiced by Toshihiko Seki known for Momotaros in Kamen Rider Den-O, Duo Maxwell from Gundam Wing and Rau Le Creuset from Gundam Seed/Destiny.

 

[Avixph]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJlQxrAPBRk

Good for a laugh. (Also, how weird is it seeing those credits with the Eccleston/Tennant Series 2 theme over them? It's really wrong. Feels weird.)

Is there a Spanish dub?

 

[APZonerunner]

Is there a Spanish dub?

Those are supposedly all the current worldwide dubs, so even the Japanese dub linked above is gone, it seems.

Love the Japanese Daleks & Cybermen. Awesome. Shame there's no ring mod on the Daleks, though.

 

[infiniteloop]

Ice Warriors is getting it's missing episodes animated. Looks more like The Invasion animation than the crappy Reign or Tenth Planet stuff:

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/02/icewarriors-280213160008.html

 

[Exterminieren]

We're getting "exciting" news about 7b at midnight tonight.

 

[Hot Coldman]

We're getting "exciting" news about 7b at midnight tonight.

Midnight GMT? Where should I point my browser?

 

[The Elite]

I will be happy with a new trailer.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

We're getting "exciting" news about 7b at midnight tonight.

Any idea what this might be about?

Spoiler

Hello Twelve

 

[The Elite]

Any idea what this might be about?

Spoiler

Hello Twelve

It's not going to be that.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

It's not going to be that.

Capt. Jack appearance at last?

 

[Exterminieren]

This close to broadcast, I'm guessing it'll be one of Moffat's celebrity voice cameos (Ian McKellan, Mitchell and Webb, Imelda Staunton, Michael Sheen).

Midnight GMT? Where should I point my browser?

Well, it was announced on the official Doctor Who Twitter account, so I'm guessing the official site is likely.

 

[The Elite]

Capt. Jack appearance at last?

McGann
Adam
Romana II
Omega

and

The Rani

It will be none of them.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

McGann
Adam
Romana II
Omega

and

The Rani

It will be none of them.

"Omega!" people are the worst.

 

[Exterminieren]

Man, it's been ages since I heard a good Adam rumour.

"Adam is Davros!" was the best shit.

 

[Avixph]

Man, it's been ages since I heard a good Adam rumour.

"Adam is Davros!" was the best shit.

Who's Adam?

 

[Exterminieren]

Who's Adam?

That guy who travelled with the Doctor for an episode back in series one. Got dumped back on Earth with a hole in his head.

Rumours about his true significance were all over the place back in the RTD era.

 

[BatDan]

Who's Adam?

He was that companion of the Ninth Doctor that was created solely to show what a bad companion does. He was introduced in "Dalek" and was brought back home in "The Long Game".

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Who's Adam?

If I'm thinking of the same guy-he was a companion for one episode with the Ninth Doctor. They met him in the episode Dalek-and rescued him from that underground facility-they then took him to Satellite Five and he got that "eye" thing installed-and it pissed the Doctor off so he dumped him off at his house.

 

[Avixph]

That guy who travelled with the Doctor for an episode back in series one. Got dumped back on Earth with a hole in his head.

Rumours about his true significance were all over the place back in the RTD era.

He was that companion of the Ninth Doctor that was created solely to show what a bad companion does. He was introduced in "Dalek" and was brought back home in "The Long Game".

Oh okay, it's been a long time since I watched that episodes he was in that I completely forgot who he was.

 

[Exterminieren]

Oh okay, it's been a long time since I watched that episodes he was in that I completely forgot who he was.

Everyone has! That's the beauty of it; this character that inspired so much speculation turned out to be spectacularly irrelevant.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Well, it was announced on the official Doctor Who Twitter account, so I'm guessing the official site is likely.

cheeeeers

 

[Avixph]

Everyone has! That's the beauty of it; this character that inspired so much speculation turned out to be spectacularly irrelevant.

And that's why most of you want him to reappear in the show again?

 

[EndcatOmega]

I don't think anyone wants him back in the show on his own lack of merit so much as he's becoming a running joke up there with 'Female character is the Rani' and 'the gay agenda'.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Adam to me is "that gay bloke off of Corrie". I never realised his character was ever given much thought after the Doctor dumped him back on Earth.

He was kind of a jobber- he was there to make Rose look way more important and super special awesome.

 

[infiniteloop]

Probably be episode title or synopsis or news of prequel or summit like that.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

Everyone has! That's the beauty of it; this character that inspired so much speculation turned out to be spectacularly irrelevant.

It would be like if people were still obsessed over that one episode where they made a hot chick clone of the Doctor named Jenny.

 

[Avixph]

It would be like if people were still obsessed over that one episode where they made a hot chick clone of the Doctor named Jenny.

Hey, one can still hope for her return. :'(

 

[Savitar]

Hey guys long term lurker, very long time, years long time but only finally joined up and to talk about Doctor Who was one of the reasons. Only recently came a fan this past Christmas when I got the special Limited Edition Gift Set with all the series right up until the current one and minus a Christmas special or two. Since then I've bought so much more, including the Dalek Handbook, Doctor Who the Encyclopedia, The Brilliant Book 2011/2012 and a thing or two. Caught right up on the show.

With the rich history of the Doctor there is so much the show can do and one of the things that's always caught my eye has been about the Valeyard. Considering he's suppose to be or was the corrupted version of the Doctor during a very bad regeneration I wonder if people might enjoy seeing such a version of that doctor running around. One that is more evil if not willing to do things the other Doctors would have never done before coming to his senses or existing until he finally regenerates himself back into a more "saner" version. Might be fun.

Going to be interesting to see how they explain the doctor can keep regenerating too since he's almost out going by the old rules.

 

[Avixph]

Hey guys long term lurker, very long time, years long time but only finally joined up and to talk about Doctor Who was one of the reasons. Only recently came a fan this past Christmas when I got the special Limited Edition Gift Set with all the series right up until the current one and minus a Christmas special or two. Since then I've bought so much more, including the Dalek Handbook, Doctor Who the Encyclopedia, The Brilliant Book 2011/2012 and a thing or two. Caught right up on the show.

With the rich history of the Doctor there is so much the show can do and one of the things that's always caught my eye has been about the Valeyard. Considering he's suppose to be or was the corrupted version of the Doctor during a very bad regeneration I wonder if people might enjoy seeing such a version of that doctor running around. One that is more evil if not willing to do things the other Doctors would have never done before coming to his senses or existing until he finally regenerates himself back into a more "saner" version. Might be fun.

Going to be interesting to see how they explain the doctor can keep regenerating too since he's almost out going by the old rules.

River gave him all her regenerations.

 

[The Elite]

River gave him all her regenerations.

I don't think that's the actual reason.

 

[Avixph]

I don't think that's the actual reason.

Then what do you think is the reason?

 

[The Elite]

Then what do you think is the reason?

I don't think they bothered to ever give one. I kind of want them to address it when its necessary otherwise it's pretty much suggest now that The Doctor can keep on regenerating unless it's a sudden death like a gun shot to the head.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I don't think they bothered to ever give one. I kind of want them to address it when its necessary otherwise it's pretty much suggest now that The Doctor can keep on regenerating unless it's a sudden death like a gun shot to the head.

Well, it's while he's regenerating isn't it. Or, like The Master, he can just choose not to. Doubt that'll happen though.

 

[The Elite]

Well, it's while he's regenerating isn't it. Or, like The Master, he can just choose not to. Doubt that'll happen though.

A regeneration can be initiated (even by a third party) or it will kick in while a Time Lord is dying. An insta-death means that the regeneration has no time to kick in. There are also certain diseases or types of radiation that can cause a Time Lord to die without regenerating.

The limit hasn't been mentioned once since 2005 as far as I remember. Like I said though, I'd still like them to address it when the time comes.

 

[Savitar]

I always perceived that River used up all her regenerations but none actually transfer to the Doctor. When it comes to regeneration they seem to play fast and loose with what it can or can not do at times. In the past one other Time Lord that traveled with the Doctor was able to change her appearance three times to find one that she liked. Now we see that Time Lords can actively decide not to regenerate. There is also the fact that they can replace lost body parts in the first 18 or so hours if not withstand fatal wounds. As with the seconds regeneration into the third it can be forced upon them as well by other Time Lords and a look actively chosen. The Master has proven more can be acquired, usually by the powers that be at the time in the Time Lords. There is the whole thing with the Doctor and the "watcher" which is downright confusing.

One of the things that has caught my attention is how the Doctor himself appears to more wildly change during regenerations than most other Time Lords, not of course in just appearance but in actual personality. He literally is another person where as Time Lords like The Master or Rassilon has more or less stayed fairly true to who they are even if the Master has been recently portrayed as more insane than usual.

 

[infiniteloop]

He literally is another person

He is?

 

[isny]

The limit hasn't been mentioned once since 2005 as far as I remember. Like I said though, I'd still like them to address it when the time comes.

It actually has. Ten made a joke about it saying that the limit to the number of the regenerations was just something made up. Please forgive me for remembering the episode it happened it, but I know he said something like that. It was big news at the time.

 

[EleventhDoctor]

I always perceived that River used up all her regenerations but none actually transfer to the Doctor .

That's how I perceived it as well-but this is Doctor Who-a series loose with continuity and rules....

which I'm ok with-as long as it's fun and entertaining.

 

[8bit]

It actually has. Ten made a joke about it saying that the limit to the number of the regenerations was just something made up. Please forgive me for remembering the episode it happened it, but I know he said something like that. It was big news at the time.

I think that might have been in the Sarah Jane Adventures.

 

[maharg]

It actually has. Ten made a joke about it saying that the limit to the number of the regenerations was just something made up. Please forgive me for remembering the episode it happened it, but I know he said something like that. It was big news at the time.

It was in the Sarah Jane Adventures' Death of the Doctor crossover, iirc. One of the kids asked and he said something like six hundred and thirty seven.

 

[isny]

It was in the Sarah Jane Adventures' Death of the Doctor crossover, iirc. One of the kids asked and he said something like six hundred and thirty seven.

Thanks. They tend to blur for me, as they were so closely connected. They said SJA was cannon, and RTD mentioned that he put that comment in there on purpose, so I don't think we'll hear any more from it besides maybe an off the cuff joke from The Master or another Timelord if they meet the 13th doc.

 

[Quick]

It was in the Sarah Jane Adventures' Death of the Doctor crossover, iirc. One of the kids asked and he said something like six hundred and thirty seven.

Five hundred and seven, actually. And he doesn't have to be white.

 

[The Elite]

Thanks. They tend to blur for me, as they were so closely connected. They said SJA was cannon, and RTD mentioned that he put that comment in there on purpose, so I don't think we'll hear any more from it besides maybe an off the cuff joke from The Master or another Timelord if they meet the 13th doc.

Yeah, I recall that dismissive SJA comment but I'd like for it to not be dismissed so easily. They obviously can work around it but such a random comment, and not even in an episode of Who, has always irked me.

 

[User 100115]

I saw a funny fan made comic once that fanwanked that they gave away regenerations for every dalek killed.