peanutbutterlatte
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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Now there's a spinoff we'll never get...
APZonerunner
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I've never read it, but I think some of the stuff the Master did in his rise is covered in a novel - the same one that describes Martha's journey for that year as vaguely described in the show. I always thought the concept of that book sounded great, but the New Series books have always been a bit simple, a bit too kid friendly, for me to bother with. It's good they've started pulling a 'Harry Potter' and putting some in more adult-looking covers, mind.
No old Doctors don't belong in the "Run" NuWho continuity.
peanutbutterlatte
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The Real Abed
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A "Series" is the entire show. A "Season" is each individual yearly chunk. What do you call a "Series"?
Ha. I bet you guys have funny words for elevator and car trunk too!
EleventhDoctor
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"RUN! I'll catch up to you in a bit."
Generally all NewWho seasons are referred to as "Series" and all OldWho seasons as just "seasons" to avoid confusion. So "Series 1" (9th Doctor) would be the same as "Season 27".
By the time he catches on he will be in a new regeneration.
The Real Abed
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No, I mean overall. In England what do they call a series? As in the entire show as a whole. Because we use series to refer to the show and season to refer to each year.
APZonerunner
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A show is a show. A series is a series. Fawlty Towers is a TV show with two series. Ashes to Ashes is a TV show (or programme) with 3 series'.
The Real Abed
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And Red Dwarf is a TV show with X series'. IT Crowd is a TV show with 4 series'. That's silly. No alternate name for show. Silly silly. I'm done.
*Can you guys please give me an XIth series of Dwarf and a 5th series of Crowd? I'd be ever so grateful. I'm a greedy American. I need good comedy TV for sustenance.
peanutbutterlatte
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If we do, it will be in one concurrent list of episodes dammit.
APZonerunner
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Given how successful X was ratings-wise, we'll probably get Dwarf XI fairly soon. Go and watch The Thick of It, Peep Show and The Inbetweeners - the three best British comedies of the past decade. Enjoy.
There's a philosophical difference that underlies the terminology difference, I think. In American television, tv shows are usually linear, starting in the fall of some year and ending after running every winter for N years in the spring of another year. Change is usually gradual over the run of the show.
In other markets tv shows go away and come back with much greater irregularity. A 'season' isn't even tied to a particular season of year and it doesn't imply any kind of guarantee of the show being back again with any regularity.
In other markets tv shows go away and come back with much greater irregularity. A 'season' isn't even tied to a particular season of year and it doesn't imply any kind of guarantee of the show being back again with any regularity.
The Real Abed
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After Dwarf X I realized they could still pull it off. But I'd be so happy with more IT Crowd. I love the characters and universe. It's the show BBT wishes it could be.
I just went there!
I'll have to look into those shows. Are they on any sort of US available streaming service?
APZonerunner
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The Thick of It is on Hulu. I'd be amazed if The Inbetweeners and Peep Show weren't on Netflix. There was a really shit US version of the Inbetweeners you'll need to avoid, though.
If you've seen VEEP, The Thick of It is what inspired that show. It's way better than its offspring.
24 episodes is a very long run for a British show really, especially a comedy. One of the advantages of British TV is stuff often bows out nice and early on a high note (Like The Office, Life on Mars, Ashes to Ashes, Fawlty Towers, etc etc) rather than endlessly milking until it fizzles away.
The Real Abed
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Which is why I'd only want more Dwarf and Crowd if they can make it as good as it always was. Well, in the case of Dwarf, better than the previous few seasons. Dwarf does its best when it sticks to its formula and normal episodic feel. No reconstructed Dwarf crew, no super meta parody straight-to-DVD film (Which I liked actually). Just the four of them doing silly shit in space.
http://www.moreflicks.com/titles/tv-series_peep-show_2003
http://www.moreflicks.com/titles/tv-series_the-inbetweeners_2008
http://www.moreflicks.com/titles/tv-series_spaced_1999
http://www.moreflicks.com/titles/tv-series_black-books_2000
Peep show is not available on US netflix but on scandinavian and uk netflix if you use a service like tunlr or unblock us. Peep show is also on hulu
http://www.hulu.com/peep-show?utm_c...797&cmp=30&SHID=&partner=cj&utm_term=10947797
New Clip from "The Crimson Horror":
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Hot Coldman
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Nice touch with the screwdriver there. Haha.
Box of Bunnies
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Yeah, best to bone up on this to be prepared for the Dylan Moran/Bill Bailey Doctor/companion team next year.
WanderingWind
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I love Dwarf. Some of the time jumps took some getting used to, that's for sure. Couldn't really watch X though. It was too sad, seeing everybody old as hell.
The Real Abed
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Eh, I didn't mind it once I saw the episodes. Some of them were really good. I just wish it was 8 episodes like the later seasons instead of 6 like the first.
If we got another season I would not mind at all. The cast is what makes me love it. And that goes for IT Crowd and Community and Firefly.
infiniteloop
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Doctor Who finale prequel starring Matt Smith and Jenna-Louise Coleman to screen via BBC Red Button
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013...a-louise-coleman-to-screen-via-bbc-red-button
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013...a-louise-coleman-to-screen-via-bbc-red-button
Too bad I won't be able to watch this.
Like everything these days, it will no doubt end up on Youtube within a matter of hours.
I hope so.
So I've been rewatching the shorts between episodes and man do I love this quote:
"Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location within the first nanosecond of landing, it analyses its surroundings, calculates a 12-dimensional data map of everything within a 1000 mile radius and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."
"Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location within the first nanosecond of landing, it analyses its surroundings, calculates a 12-dimensional data map of everything within a 1000 mile radius and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."
Oxigen_Waste
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So... Torchwood.
Do I need to watch any episodes or can I just dive straight into Children Of Earth?
Do I need to watch any episodes or can I just dive straight into Children Of Earth?
PhoncipleBone
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You can jump right in.
infiniteloop
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Nope.
This is a reference to Hitchiker's right? It sounds a lot like the quote about the drinks machine that analyses the user's brain and digestion to detect the perfect drink for them, but then invariably produces the same drink that is almost the exact opposite of tea.
Bloody hell, why did I watch that? I feel like I've been through the ringer.
EleventhDoctor
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Children of Earth is the only good thing that ever came out of Torchwood-but it's God Tier good.
I probably wouldn't bother with the first two seasons unless you really like Children of Earth. The first season is a huge mess, and the second is better, but still about a thousand times more shlocky than COE is.
It was definitely very good.
I just have a hard time with things involving children dying.
Ventilaator
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Is there an old-Who version of the "Start with Eccleston if you're brave, but you should skip to the Smith seasons because it got better, but make sure to see Blink" pitch? I'm thinking of finally getting into it.
that cabinet meeting was the best scene
Clone Outcast
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God, I love this show so much. It makes me warm inside.
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What are we supposed to do? Watch the American version?
Yeah right.
Is this actually a thing? I thought they scrapped it half-way through
Holy shit ahahha
I think the only thing you can really say is that somewhere mid-run of Tom Baker's run is probably the most accessible the old show ever was. But I think you're probably just best off finding a best-of for each Doctor and watching that (assuming it's available) to decide which era you're most comfortable with. I personally like the second doctor best.
And really, don't even bother trying to run it as a marathon. You won't be hurt by jumping around, as long as you consume entire serials at a time. There is continuity beyond that, but it's almost never a big deal.
Ventilaator
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Tom Baker or Davison seem to me like the Doctors who would be the easiest to go back to for someone coming from the new show. Going from Smith to Hartnell might be way too weird.
Box of Bunnies
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Well, this is a thing. Can't really personally vouch for its coverage of 2-5, but it's a place to start at least, giving you some stories to jump around with to see if you can find something you like.
Stories marked with an asterisk are missing episodes, though The Invasion has been completed with animation and I think they're doing the same for The Tenth Planet later this year.
I really like Davison as well, but I think more for the character than for the stories I've seen him in. Kind of like McGann (except with more). In practice he's mostly kind of boring.
Ventilaator
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If nobody wants to call out the episode guide image above as complete bullshit, I might just follow that.
It's kind of bullshit. Not completly, but kind of. Since no one else has said it I'd suggest starting with the third Doctor's era. It's got a great cast of recurring supporting characters, and Pertwee is by far the coolest Doctor. No other Doctor would ever karate chop a bad guy while casually sipping a glass of wine. Plus Pertwee's first season (7) is one of the most consistant the show has ever been with each one ranging from good to great.
The issue really is though that the show was on for a quarter of a century and while most people agree on a handful of the best stories (talons, androzani) and the worst (timelash, ANYTHING with the Rani) every one has their own favorite stories and Doctors and I swear you'll find the same exact stories as frequently on best of lists as you will worst of lists.
Best thing to do is to start with one or two from each Doctor paying attention to what writers you like and go from there.
For the record, An Unearthly Child is a great pilot and is NOT boring.
APZonerunner
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If you find you can't stand or struggle with old Who more than you anticipated, there's definitely even more episodes you can strip down from that list. Some are 100% worth seeing anyway, like Genesis of the Daleks, which was retconned to be one of the provoking acts of the Time War and such.
The Real Abed
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Yes it's real and it's a travesty.Is this actually a thing? I thought they scrapped it half-way through
Box of Bunnies
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Yeah, definitely agree with this sentiment. The chart just seemed like a decent quick and easy "get a feel of things" list after which people could dig deeper at their discretion.
Yeah, that's the only issue I really have with the chart. Nobody should be talking shit about Unearthly Child.
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