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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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infiniteloop

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Gaiman creating his own interesting, recurring monster would be cool, but then anybody creating one would be.

When was the last one? Weeping Angels? Maybe the Silence I guess.
 
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isny

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FatboyRoberts said:
So, if the rumor is that between the finale & the special

there's going to be an Eighth Doctor live-action webseries - doesn't it kinda follow that the Eighth will be IN the finale? It'd be weird to have this guy be making live-action Who episodes right before the 50th anniversary special and then NOT include him

However, how can that be true if

even for a webseries, Paul McGann running around with a camera crew would tip SOMEBODY off somewhere, right? You can't film a whole webseries without anybody noticing, can you?
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Greenscreen. See Sanctuary.
 
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GameplayWhore

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infiniteloop said:
Gaiman creating his own interesting, recurring monster would be cool, but then anybody creating one would be.

When was the last one? Weeping Angels? Maybe the Silence I guess.
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Probably the Silence. Mind, while they were in the same episode, the Gangers were technically recurring and were introduced after the Silence.
 
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maharg

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Goldrush said:
I can't help but think Gaiman want to create a Who monster so he'll have another source of royalty coming in.
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I don't think it works that way anymore. Pretty sure you sign away any rights like that before you write a word now. Terry Nations are a thing of the past.
 
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Kuraudo

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maharg said:
I don't think it works that way anymore. Pretty sure you sign away any rights like that before you write a word now. Terry Nations are a thing of the past.
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Not sure how it works with creatures, but if you create a character for a TV show you get paid royalties each time they reappear.
 
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APZonerunner

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infiniteloop said:
Gaiman creating his own interesting, recurring monster would be cool, but then anybody creating one would be.

When was the last one? Weeping Angels? Maybe the Silence I guess.
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I'd say the Weeping Angels and the Ood are the two take-aways. We'll see how their involvement effects other things, but I'd put the Silence next to something like the Judoon; they've reappeared, but hardly on the level the Angels/Ood did.

maharg said:
I don't think it works that way anymore. Pretty sure you sign away any rights like that before you write a word now. Terry Nations are a thing of the past.
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Yeah. RTD didn't get royalties for The Doctor's Wife or The Pandorica Opens, for instance. He did get a credit, though. They don't even have to do that - they just see it as a 'nice' thing to do. The BBC suffered enough with the Dalek license. RTD and Moffat have both sort of jokingly bemoaned how they're "giving away amazing creations" to the BBC for nothing.
 
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peanutbutterlatte

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APZonerunner said:
I'd say the Weeping Angels and the Ood are the two take-aways. We'll see how their involvement effects other things, but I'd put the Silence next to something like the Judoon; they've reappeared, but hardly on the level the Angels/Ood did.
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Yeah, the Angels are beings with one very simply goal; to feed so they can survive. That can be, and has been applied to a variety of narrative situations. The Silence seem to exist solely so they can piss in The Doctor's milk, so they can only appear in important arc-related storylines.
 
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Exterminieren

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If you see any reference to the IMDB spoilers, don't pay any attention to them. They're basically a repetition of the rumoured plotline for The Name of the Doctor, with screenshots. The screenshots are convincing, but they're faked; the background is taken from another set of fakes of a Hobbit trailer.

Link is here, but be careful in case there's some validity to the plot.

The original fakes, for reference.
 
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Avixph

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Exterminieren said:
If you see any reference to the IMDB spoilers, don't pay any attention to them. They're basically a repetition of the rumoured plotline for The Name of the Doctor, with screenshots. The screenshots are convincing, but they're faked; the background is taken from another set of fakes of a Hobbit trailer.

Link is here, but be careful in case there's some validity to the plot.

The original fakes, for reference.
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I really hope the end bit of these "spoilers" are true (
River Song getting erased from existence.
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APZonerunner

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Avixph said:
I really hope the end bit of these "spoilers" are true (
River Song getting erased from existence.
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Her grave is in the episode - the shot of the Whispermen from the very first 7b trailer clearly features a Tombstone with the letters 'ONG' on the far right. Doesn't take much to extrapolate what it says...
 
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Blader

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FatboyRoberts said:
So, if the rumor is that between the finale & the special

there's going to be an Eighth Doctor live-action webseries - doesn't it kinda follow that the Eighth will be IN the finale? It'd be weird to have this guy be making live-action Who episodes right before the 50th anniversary special and then NOT include him
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I actually think that makes it easier for them not to do it.
If you get 1-7 inserted in the finale, and 8 getting a webseries, then their parts for the anniversary are already kind of done. They would be getting their airtime (in a sense) which would free up the 50th special to just showcase the remaining Doctors.
 
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KuwabaraTheMan

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APZonerunner said:
Yeah. RTD didn't get royalties for The Doctor's Wife or The Pandorica Opens, for instance. He did get a credit, though. They don't even have to do that - they just see it as a 'nice' thing to do. The BBC suffered enough with the Dalek license. RTD and Moffat have both sort of jokingly bemoaned how they're "giving away amazing creations" to the BBC for nothing.
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Of course, RTD and Moffat wouldn't have been entitled to creator's credits or royalties under the way the old show worked, either. Only freelance writers could receive that, not members of the staff of the show. The basic way it worked is that a freelance writer who created something entirely from scratch for their script (nothing suggested by a producer or script editor would count) would own the creation, but only the parts that they included in the script. So Terry Nation's estate owns the Daleks, but not their iconic look (since that was created by an employee of the BBC). That's why they had to come up with a new look for K9 in that show Bob Baker made that the BBC wasn't involved with.
 
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Fuu

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Can't believe people were getting on his case for using Dr instead of Doctor... :lol Love the response though.

Also, I don't remember if this 30 seconds preview from Nightmare in Silver was posted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H-RB6qSUgc
 
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GameplayWhore

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Fuu said:
Can't believe people were getting on his case for using Dr instead of Doctor... :lol Love the response though.

Also, I don't remember if this 30 seconds preview from Nightmare in Silver was posted
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If I ever need to tweet about the episode, I'm going to refer to it as Nightmare in Ag. ;)
 
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EleventhDoctor said:
I don't believe that's the case any longer for most writers unless there is some clause in their contract.
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It's the other way around, I think. The default is you get royalties but there's usually now a clause in your contract saying you give up royalties to long term use of your character. The television industry has basically done everything it can over the last 30 years or so to reduce or eliminate long term royalty payments because rebroadcast and home video rights get really complicated otherwise.

I think you'd only be able to pull off long term royalties from characters/ideas/whatever if you were the creator of the whole thing now.
 
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GulAtiCa

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Silents would easily win. Only way a Silent would lose, is if they turned their back to the Weeping Angel with the Weeping Angel still in direct sight of them.
 
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Exterminieren

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Daleks by a mile, unless the Cybermen pull some pretty big rabbits out of the hat in Nightmare in Silver.

Modern Daleks
Classic Daleks
Modern Cybermen
Ice Warriors
Sontarans
Classic Cybermen
 
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APZonerunner

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It'd always be the Daleks. I mean, the Cybermen are pretty powerful themselves and yet four Daleks just literally mostly ignored entire platoons of them in Doomsday to get out of the building. Almost all the Cybermen weapons fire was useless.
 
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EleventhDoctor

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Daleks-they're like fucking roaches. The Doctor always eliminates them from existence, and then next week he runs into one. "Ah, this is the secret group who fell through time."
 
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