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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life

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Entire chapters of redacted material covering those 'erased' from the show, I'm sure.

I love how Moffat has basically become a Doctor Who baddie in the fandom with his erasure catchphrase.

It annoys me slightly, to be honest.

Christ alone knows what we'd have called RTD if he hadn't had Gardner to hold him in.
 
Reckon it's either baker I or mcgann

Hardly see how it can't be McGann seeing what we know about Hurt's character. He's the missing link between old and new. Also, watched Luther the other day, and the guy has totally kept in shape.

Also in my insanest of hopes think Eccleston might appear in like a 1 minute cameo
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HigXx

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Well there was talks of McGann filming a prequel to the 50th Special, so it could just very well be the start of the episode
 
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Still sad Eccleston wouldn't do it. It'd have meant so much to the fanbase, and it'd only have to be the once - a 50th anniversary doesn't exactly come along that often.
 
Still sad Eccleston wouldn't do it. It'd have meant so much to the fanbase, and it'd only have to be the once - a 50th anniversary doesn't exactly come along that often.

Sad thing is by the 60th rolls round he'll have very little relevance, this was most likely the last time for him to do it when it would have made perfect sense. Not that I feel it's something Eccleston will ever regret himself, but it's still a shame. Particularly due to the aforementioned dynamic between him, Tennant and Smith. Needed a hard Northern version of Hartnell's "So these are my replacements... a clown and a dandy!" speech. If Moffatt does manage to secretly slip Eccleston in, I will officially rescind any past and future comments I may have made or may make about his qualities as a showrunner, writer, and human being.

I really need to watch the Dr. Who movie tomorrow so I can see McGann in action. I really love him in Luther and stuff, but haven't seen him as the man himself yet.
 

MCGANN

PAUL FUCKING MCGANN, PLEASE.

I wonder if the rumored idea of the webseries starring McGann & Hurt has simply become part of the show proper, and will be a flashback in the middle of the story or something.

I really need to watch the Dr. Who movie tomorrow so I can see McGann in action. I really love him in Luther and stuff, but haven't seen him as the man himself yet.

The Eighth Doctor Adventures from Big Finish are legitimately good (most of them at least) check them out if you can.
 

Quick

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Calling Paul McGann, too. Though, it does say "at least one", so there could be more than just him.

If it's more than one classic Doctor, McGann and Tom Baker. Maybe even Peter Davidson.

McGann seems like the natural choice considering the implication of the 8th Doctor in the current storyline. Tom Baker because of the fan favourite factor. Peter Davidson purely because he was involved in Time Crash (Children In Need short), which Steven Moffat wrote.
 
MCGANN

PAUL FUCKING MCGANN, PLEASE.

I wonder if the rumored idea of the webseries starring McGann & Hurt has simply become part of the show proper, and will be a flashback in the middle of the story or something.

Wouldn't be surprised, though there's still 5 months left for them to release the webseries if it's already filmed. If the rumors of Hurt's identity are true...
and I mean, we can pretty much assume they are now,
, he would probably be in at the start of the episode.

Whoops, sorry :p http://www.mediafire.com/?j6t87661gsvvmra
It's the MP4 version of the video from YouTube. I used a great Bookmarklet called PwnYouTube to download the video :p

You are a gentleman and a scholar. Hope Moffat's weeping angel death squad make it merciful for you...

EDIT: Wow, really impressed. If they don't get McGann, I'll happily settle for Bradley's Hartnell. Creepily uncanny!
 
Depending on when in August, August confidential again makes the 'surprise' regen at the end of the 50th more credible.

It annoys me slightly, to be honest.

Christ alone knows what we'd have called RTD if he hadn't had Gardner to hold him in.

Eh. I don't think Gardner held him in. If the Writer's Tale indicated anything it's that he kept those thoughts largely to himself and was sort of self destructive - he'd deflect it all inwards, hate himself and spiral out of control and fall behind. Gardner would pull him out of that, but he certainly didn't seem to lose his rag often at others. Him and Moffat are both princess and the pea types, really, just RTD seems more self destructive.
 
Do you think they'll keep to 8th's story in IDW's The Forgotten or just retcon it?

I'm betting it wasn't considered at all. MAYBE the Big Finish stuff - but I'd doubt that's being considered, either.

IF the Eighth is included - I'd imagine Moffat figures he's essentially a blank slate to work with.
 

V_Arnold

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I want Matt to go out like a pro! None of this "I don't want to go" nonsense, he's "died" like 3 times already...

At this point, I sometimes wish Matt would go exactly like Tennant just to spite those that deem that absolutely tear-inducing moment worthless or bad.

Seriously, Tennant was fantastic, and his end was fitting. Nothing bad about showing emotions or wanting to stay this way for a little more, imho.
 

Ein Bear

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At this point, I sometimes wish Matt would go exactly like Tennant just to spite those that deem that absolutely tear-inducing moment worthless or bad.

Seriously, Tennant was fantastic, and his end was fitting. Nothing bad about showing emotions or wanting to stay this way for a little more, imho.

The "I don't want to go" line was great, and perfectly delivered, but I didn't like the long, drawn-out montage of him visiting various companions. That all felt a bit too self-congratulatory.
 
At this point, I sometimes wish Matt would go exactly like Tennant just to spite those that deem that absolutely tear-inducing moment worthless or bad.

Seriously, Tennant was fantastic, and his end was fitting. Nothing bad about showing emotions or wanting to stay this way for a little more, imho.

Agreed. Even as someone who left the show during Eccleston's run and came back to it during Smith's, when I went back and watched all of Tennant all the way through, the end of The End of Time was absolutely CRUSHING.

I don't think they're going to have Smith go out that way, but to say Tennant's death wasn't a supremely emotional moment is just ridiculous.
 
At this point, I sometimes wish Matt would go exactly like Tennant just to spite those that deem that absolutely tear-inducing moment worthless or bad.

Seriously, Tennant was fantastic, and his end was fitting. Nothing bad about showing emotions or wanting to stay this way for a little more, imho.

I was joking, in honesty. I just think it'll be nice for Matt's end to be a little bit more celebratory rather than clinging onto the past. I really love Tennant's regeneration, Vale Decem kicking in is absolutely haunting.

I reckon Eleven's going to be quite welcoming of death, having lost so much and come close so many times.
 
I was joking, in honesty. I just think it'll be nice for Matt's end to be a little bit more celebratory rather than clinging onto the past. I really love Tennant's regeneration, Vale Decem kicking in is absolutely haunting.

I reckon Eleven's going to be quite welcoming of death, having lost so much and come close so many times.

He's pretty much asked for it several times by now, sometimes verbatim. The only way I'd see them making it a big sad moment is if Clara died with him. And seeing as we know she's not, it'll probably be a bit more like the 9>10 regeneration.

Not to mention I think the Doctor, timeline-wise, has been Eleven longer than he was Ten at this point, if you take that hundred-or-so year gap from the beginning of Season 6 into account. I don't think he'll go out of his way to regenerate, but he definitely won't fight it the same way he did at the end of Ten's run.
 

maharg

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At this point, I sometimes wish Matt would go exactly like Tennant just to spite those that deem that absolutely tear-inducing moment worthless or bad.

Seriously, Tennant was fantastic, and his end was fitting. Nothing bad about showing emotions or wanting to stay this way for a little more, imho.

I'd hate that line, and the 12 hour tour, just as much if Matt Smith did it.
 

Ein Bear

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He's pretty much asked for it several times by now, sometimes verbatim. The only way I'd see them making it a big sad moment is if Clara died with him. And seeing as we know she's not, it'll probably be a bit more like the 9>10 regeneration.

Not to mention I think the Doctor, timeline-wise, has been Eleven longer than he was Ten at this point, if you take that hundred-or-so year gap from the beginning of Season 6 into account. I don't think he'll go out of his way to regenerate, but he definitely won't fight it the same way he did at the end of Ten's run.

I think 10 is his shortest-lived incarnation by far. The other Doctors all have decades/centuries of stories happening off-screen, between episodes, yet during RTD's era they seemed strangely obsessed with keeping the series running in 'real-time'. So 10's entire lifespan was about 5 years?
 

DieH@rd

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I loved how at that moment you remember the countless months of speculation about Clara's scret and then they just drop it before the opening :lol:

Yeah, that opening was insane. After the first 10 seconds everybody absolutely know that this episode was gonna be insane.
 
I think 10 is his shortest-lived incarnation by far. The other Doctors all have decades/centuries of stories happening off-screen, between episodes, yet during RTD's era they seemed strangely obsessed with keeping the series running in 'real-time'. So 10's entire lifespan was about 5 years?

We don't know exactly how long he dicked around the universe after abandoning Donna before coming back for The End of Time - we know he did a bunch of shit during that time gap, but it's never been said how long it was - but he definitely had a short run compared to Smith.
 

maharg

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I think 10 is his shortest-lived incarnation by far. The other Doctors all have decades/centuries of stories happening off-screen, between episodes, yet during RTD's era they seemed strangely obsessed with keeping the series running in 'real-time'. So 10's entire lifespan was about 5 years?

They left plenty of opportunity for gaps in The Year of Specials. Also between companions.

They just haven't exploited or drawn attention to them them yet.
 

Ein Bear

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We don't know exactly how long he dicked around the universe after abandoning Donna before coming back for The End of Time - we know he did a bunch of shit during that time gap, but it's never been said how long it was - but he definitely had a short run compared to Smith.

They left plenty of opportunity for gaps in The Year of Specials. Also between companions.

They just haven't exploited or drawn attention to them them yet.

I'm pretty sure I remember 11 giving his age as being only a year or so older than 10 (so, 906 or something) in one of his earlier stories, which is then brought up by Amy when he refers to himself as being well over 1000 in the Impossible Astronaut. So that would limit 10's lifespan to a maximum of 6 years or so, really.

I'm basing all of this off vague memory though, so could well be wrong.
 

V_Arnold

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I'd hate that line, and the 12 hour tour, just as much if Matt Smith did it.

Well... I kinda think that the tour was not exactly for the 10th only... it felt like it was for RTD's departure as well. As a nod to everything that this huge team did together. Now, with Smith, there is not much left. Only Jenny, Vastra and Strax. And of course, River. (?) :D
 
I'm pretty sure I remember 11 giving his age as being only a year or so older than 10 (so, 906 or something) in one of his earlier stories, which is then brought up by Amy when he refers to himself as being well over 1000 in the Impossible Astronaut. So that would limit 10's lifespan to a maximum of 6 years or so, really.

I'm basing all of this off vague memory though, so could well be wrong.

Yeah, Eleven definitely refers to himself as 907 at one point during the early part of his run. I remember that too.

Well... I kinda think that the tour was not exactly for the 10th only... it felt like it was for RTD's departure as well. As a nod to everything that this huge team did together. Now, with Smith, there is not much left. Only Jenny, Vastra and Strax. And of course, River. (?) :D

Here's hoping we never see River again. The Name of the Doctor was as good enough of closure as that character needed or deserved.
 

DarkFlow

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I think 10 is his shortest-lived incarnation by far. The other Doctors all have decades/centuries of stories happening off-screen, between episodes, yet during RTD's era they seemed strangely obsessed with keeping the series running in 'real-time'. So 10's entire lifespan was about 5 years?

He was 194 year's older by the time of the start of The Impossible Astronaut. So he's had some time to live.
 

V_Arnold

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Here's hoping we never see River again. The Name of the Doctor was as good enough of closure as that character needed or deserved.

On one hand, I absolutely agree -and I am saying that as someone who had no issues with River, not even the Let's Kill Hitler version. But on the other hand, "spoilers" and her smile suggests that by being linked to Clara, she may have survived the Library :D

So at this point, we can...pray, I guess?
 
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