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Doctor Who Series Seven |OT| The Question You've Been Running From All Your Life
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Col WillieSharp
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Well, it IS just a matter of when.
It will never ever happen, but I had a thought for the next Doctor.
Bear with me, what if 11 regenerated into... Rory?
There are no rules that say that a time lord can't regenerate into a body he has seen before, right? Didn't a companion/time lord from back in the day regenerate into a familiar body? Romana, maybe?
So, the fans are familiar with Rory, and he isn't that far removed from the general age/behavior type of our current Doctors, so that could work. And the story possibilities could be incredible!
The Doctor, who is also Rory, searching for his wife, who is is former companion. Amy is love with Rory, not the Doctor. Would she fall in love with the Doctor, who is Rory?
You know, it doesn't look as good on a screen as it sounded in my head, and i realize that this will never ever happen, but you never know.
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Col WillieSharp
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You know, it's not like Darvill is set up for a huge post-Who career. He might do it.
Amy's involvement would be crucial though, at least for awhile.
The shame of it is that I'm sure that the 12th Doctor will be another quirky guy in his mid-twenties. I would love to see something radically different (not just ginger) for his next incarnation.
Amy's involvement would be crucial though, at least for awhile.
The shame of it is that I'm sure that the 12th Doctor will be another quirky guy in his mid-twenties. I would love to see something radically different (not just ginger) for his next incarnation.
I don't think they'll go back to an older-looking Doctor. No one after 40, I say.
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I know y'all aren't big fans of River, but I found this piece of fanart, and I just had to share.
They both look so sad
MY HEART.
They both look so sad
MY HEART.
Col WillieSharp
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Maybe in a post-Moffit world, the next show runner will try and put his stamp on things, and go older. I dont need someone in their 50s, but even though Smith has portrayed him as old, and tired, an actor with a little more life experience might bring even more depth to a character thats over 900 years old.
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I thought it was a tank-top. Which was kinda weird, but whatever. *looks* Could be just suspenders....
I thought he had talked with Moffat about the next series or something, that being the one after this one which I imagine with the 50th special wont be here till 2014.
So of he regenerated new year there would really be no point of him being involved?
Unless he was talking about the second part of series 7, either way I am personally fine with Snith sticking around for a few more years, smith will have been around longer than Tennant 2 episodes into the second half.
I would hope they go up with the age instead of the other way. The last thing Doctor Who needs is a lead that looks like he should be worrying about puberty instead of intergalactic, pan-dimensional peace.
Romana regenerated into an actress who had played a different role on the show prior, but not into that previous character. Having Smith regenerate into Rory would be uncharted waters, even for this show. Now if he regenerated into David Morrissey, then we'd be onto something.GPG said:
This please!
Col WillieSharp
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Alright, but (and I honestly don't know the answer) wasn't it that Romana regenerated like that for a reason? What I mean is, didn't she regen into a familiar face for some plot point? And I definately would NOT want Darvill to just suit up and play Rory. Good drama could be based off of the fact that he only looks like Rory, but had all of the memories of the Doctor.
I thought they were two women for a second.I know y'all aren't big fans of River, but I found this piece of fanart, and I just had to share.
They both look so sad
http://i.imgur.com/o0n6H.jpg
Hrm, how come the doctor never regenerates into a woman?
Unofficially, yes he did, lol.
But, he's decidedly a male. I'd like to think that they regenerate only to the gender he was born in. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.
He confirmed that Time Lord called the Corsair could change genders through regeneration.
My knowledge on Old Who is based on what little ive seen, and other bits I've read here and there, so you may be right on at least why she looks like that (besides wiki saying the actress simply didn't sign on for the role).
I forgot about him/her. Whoops.
11th falls in love with the 12th?
APZonerunner
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The thing is these actors - especially now Who is a 'top tier' show again - have careers. There's an important decision to make about the right time to go for their career. I think Tennant overshot in terms of what was best for his career - the specials were good for the show but a bit too long for him, I think. Tennant was overly attached to the show, and when Moffat gave him the choice for a second time he had a week-long wobble where he even cancelled leaving to do Series Five.
Thing is, this isn't movies - it's not Bond, for instance, where you do a film every 2 or 3 years. Who is a gruelling schedule for 9 months of the year or more. Not only is that really tiring and taxing (look at how much it looks like Matt/Karen aged from Time of Angels (first ep filmed) to Amy's Choice (last filmed) - difference is massive. It's a killer schedule. They can't do this forever.
Matt will go into the sunset eventually and all will be fine and dandy. We'll miss him, but onwards and upwards. I think there's a fairly strong chance of a Black Doctor, incidentally... Moffat said he made a point of casting Mels as they did to 'show' a cross-ethnicity regeneration on screen. I think this is padding out - deliberately placed 'examples' to quell any later reaction to later developments. I also think all those Patterson Joseph rumours during 11's casting were so strong that there has to be some fire to go with that smoke.
I like to think of it as like Human sex changes - until the lore says otherwise, anyway - that a Time Lord is born with a physical gender but can willingly change during the regeneration process f they wish.
By this line of thinking we'd have had a ginger Doctor.
Well, other Time Lords seem to be far more in control of their regenerations than the Doctor. It seems to be a thing.
If you want a silly in-universe cannon-plausible reason, maybe when they forced his new look in his second regeneration to his third they broke his ability to control the outcome.
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As a massive fan for years and years, I have no idea how this slipped me by.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaMRyn47Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaMRyn47Xg
APZonerunner
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Well, it's pretty easy to imagine, I think, he could control a 'big' thing like gender if he concentrated hard enough, but the little things like hair or eye color are too granular to change.
The old series actually has a scene where Romana, a female Time Lord who travelled with The Doctor, 'tries on' regenerations like outfits before settling on one. She literally walks in with different forms - even once as an alien - played by different actors, like she's trying on a dress. If I remember correctly it's largely played as a sort of cringeworthy gag about how long it takes women to get ready to go out, The Doctor being impatient at the TARDIS console.
Meanwhile, when the Second Doctor's regeneration is forced upon him by the Time Lords, they show him different faces he can choose from. When he refuses to choose because he hates them all, they pick one for him. We already know from this, then, that regeneration can be voluntary, forced or simply not initiated (The Master.)
So this stuff is a bit of a grey area. The thing that maharg pointed out is a fairly good excuse. Also, Romana's regeneration and the Second Doctor's weren't caused by physical trauma - whereas every other Doctor, River and The Master have all 'died' in some way - so maybe he's never had the option to choose because they're unnatural regenerations. I think that covers every on-screen regeneration.
There also is the "Shut up dad, I'm focusing on a dress size" comment... y'know, maybe they can control these things, but not with 100% certainty - "I might end up with no head. Imagine me with no head!" Beyond that, you wouldn't think when he's near-death for his thought to be on controlling the look of his next regeneration.
Karen Gillan was on Craig Ferguson's show again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVPFTGUK4I
She wears a party hat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtVPFTGUK4I
She wears a party hat.
Wow that was long, but good.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one having those same dirty thoughts. . . .
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Read The Writer's Tale sometime. At times it comes across as just a massive book devoted to perving on Russell Tovey.
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Delightful as always.
In love. Wife has given me permission to marry Karen if my wife is ever hit by a bus. Brb, going to get a bus schedule.
For me, it was River. Making Melody into River gave Amy very little to do for the most part.
I think it was Karen herself for me, in interviews and the like she doesn't really have the sort of personality I'm into. I've enjoyed her in the show though. Jenna has that sort of smart, witty character that is right up my street. Plus she's gorgeous, which certainly doesn't hurt.
they make her like a model(pun intended based on the storyline), when she's actually extremely awkward and more of a background actress. she did great as the companion, but there's a reason rory was also there. by herself, i don't think karen is that great of an actress. i hope to be proved wrong with her other projects after who, but she wasn't a companion that could carry the show herself.
i LOVE watching her in interviews though.
Eteric Rice
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So, has it been confirmed that Matt is leaving? That would make me sad.
brucewaynegretzky
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So, has it been confirmed that Matt is leaving? That would make me sad.
Where did anyone see that recently?!?!?!
Yeah, that came out of nowhere. As far as I know, there's nothing confirmed.
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Nothing confirmed. Rumors on BlogTor Who (they have a good track record despite the name). I think they've pulled all the spoilers they had.
One of them was
Doctor 11 would regenerate on a New Year's Day special.
There are a lot of new promo pics up today. I saw a bunch at blogtor who.
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The Blogtor rumours sound so good... apart from that one. I don't want Matt to leave so soon.
I don't want (him) to go!
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