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Does anyone feel less interested in gaming when Nintendo goes under-powered?
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daTRUballin
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That means that anybody who feels less interested in gaming when Nintendo goes underpowered has been less interested in gaming for 10 years now! Wow. What a sad state to be in.
EdwardTivrusky
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Nah, The power of a Nintendo console doesn't impact my interest in gaming. I was gaming before Nintendo were a thing in the UK so their DBZ Power Level means nothing to me. I will be buying a Switch at launch though as i've always had PC & Nintendo with SomeoneElse as my gaming platforms since 1990s and it's served me well.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Most people don't buy consoles to play nothing but exclusives.
As for Sony and MS, they already make consoles with exclusives and AAA third party games. Nintendo are the odd ones out, as they have had pitiful third party support ever since the N64, largely due to Nintendo's insistence on designing their consoles around what they want.
pc is a wholly different beast and steam is kind of my favorite thing as it caters to what i think is ideal in a userbase. the games are extremely varied in terms of pricing, genre, targeted audience, etc to the point where gone home can be next to metal gear solid v and it's not that weird. it's the place where undertale can become a breakout success. what i see on pc is an opportunity for good games and good ideas, not marketing budgets, to compete. stardew valley and prison architect, etc can come out of nowhere and achieve varying degrees of success next to heavily marketed titles like street fighter v and tomb raider.
it's really on the console end that there's a constant chase for the next best-looking thing. valve doesn't hold stage shows in which people are invited to theaters to see giant corporations showcase a series of commercials.
When I originally posted, I assumed that the difference in power between the Switch and its competitors would still place it within the same ballpark. If, to accommodate the handheld factor, Nintendo has created a situation where the hardware is effectively a generation behind again, then they haven't learned any lessons.
I want to thank Rich at ReviewTechUSA for basically explaining why the specs do matter in this instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwJqCyZArPY&t=0s
I say this as someone who probably prefers the niche output on Nintendo's handhelds to the bulk of mainstream AAA games. This simply isn't good enough to keep Nintendo's hardware competitive in the long run.
I want to thank Rich at ReviewTechUSA for basically explaining why the specs do matter in this instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwJqCyZArPY&t=0s
I say this as someone who probably prefers the niche output on Nintendo's handhelds to the bulk of mainstream AAA games. This simply isn't good enough to keep Nintendo's hardware competitive in the long run.
Lol what a joke. Galaxy says hi. Maybe you'll need to check gameranking. Ofcourse you can disagree, but you are then with the fewer people thinking like that. Nintendo is still one of the best (maybe the best) developer in the world. Splatoon is something fresh and really good.
My interest was perked when it was the prospect of unifying their portable and home platforms. Also how it provides a completely different experience to my current front room PC setup.
There is no way Nintendo could compete on power in my household, it is all about a unique gaming experience and that does not correlate to power.
There is no way Nintendo could compete on power in my household, it is all about a unique gaming experience and that does not correlate to power.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
But the Switch has some of the most advanced technology in any gaming device to date, its leaps and bounds above what some of the other consoles offer.
Their priorities are just in other places besides raw computation
Their priorities are just in other places besides raw computation
It can connect to the Internet and everything ;p
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Right? I mean, who knew the future was coming so soon?!
Weltall Zero
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It may have got a port out of every 10 PS2 games, if that. "Tons" is kind of overselling it.
Indeed: with a single game.
We don't describe "routinely" the same way.
The point is that people seem to think if Nintendo makes a powerful console, third parties will flock to them. They had the most powerful 5th gen console, and a more powerful 6th gen than the PS2, yet third party support was a fraction of what Sony got; and that was coming from the SNES which utterly dominated the 4th gen.
Really, the only thing that viewing N64 and GC levels of 3rd party support with fond nostalgia indicates is how utterly abysmal things are now.
Polioliolio
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It's because knowing that they're going underpowered has meant, since the Wii, a forced wacky novelty. Even the DS series, great games abound, started off slow with a bunch of forced touch novelty, and although I had a great time with some of those games, I still somewhat resent the dual screen and touch.
At this point, power doesn't mean much though. I don't need Uncharted 4 graphics in a Nintendo game. I would sure love it if the consoles weren't consistently sold on a novelty though. And while I'm cautiously excited for switch, I can't help but feel like they've already set themselves up for failure, in some sense. Just the idea of switching controller forms and having to have full sized controllers or half sized and sliding on and off and .. Bleh. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
At this point, power doesn't mean much though. I don't need Uncharted 4 graphics in a Nintendo game. I would sure love it if the consoles weren't consistently sold on a novelty though. And while I'm cautiously excited for switch, I can't help but feel like they've already set themselves up for failure, in some sense. Just the idea of switching controller forms and having to have full sized controllers or half sized and sliding on and off and .. Bleh. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.
Not at all, it's Nintendos dedication to great game play I see as their biggest strength and I would hate for them shift their focus into a power arms race instead of focusing on fun and innovation.
Yes? Fun over power any day. It would of course annoy me if they were to release a new console when it's not needed, as in no power upgrade on new systems in this 10 year period if I understood you right? Because doing that would be a totally egoistical and useless cash grab and waste of our money, plastic and electronic components.
Yes? Fun over power any day. It would of course annoy me if they were to release a new console when it's not needed, as in no power upgrade on new systems in this 10 year period if I understood you right? Because doing that would be a totally egoistical and useless cash grab and waste of our money, plastic and electronic components.
Black Mantis
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Nope, their games are fun and tend to have couch co-op more than Sony and MS, which has provided me with some great gaming moments with my daughter on the Wii-U. That's why I'll be getting the Switch.
If couch-op isn't a term yet it really should be.
DanWensing
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Yep, Nintendo is pretty much over for me since GameCube. I only keep buying their consoles because of Zelda games.
Oddvintagechap
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he said hardcore, not hipster.
anyways the games they release now can run on the gamecube.
There is another. Zero may have been a complete train wreck but the original Perfect Dark deserves to be remembered well alongside Goldeneye on the N64.
Honestly, it isn't power that's the important thing for keeping Nintendo relevant, its successfully capturing the market's imagination. They aren't going to do that by staying in the teraflop race, not with handheld aspirations, so they need to do something else. Presumably the January reveal will show us whether they have a hook or not.
Nintendo knows creativity and fun like few others in the business, but they're also extremely conservative with budgets when they're not riding high. I'd love to see them with a bona fide success again, but it's not going to come solely with their core fan base. They need that hook, good advertising, and retail partners willing to put them front and center again. If the first year isn't gangbusters it's going to be another painful cycle.
You what? You're being facetious, right?
KratosEnergyDrink
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You know if Nintendo goes third party it would end in a 2D Mario, Mario Kart, Mario Party publisher. Other games like Zelda, Metroid & Co. are probably not worth the effort if they don't sell hardware with it and have to pay license money. On top of that they probably go mobile and leave the slowly dying console market behind.
All the niche games Nintendo constantly made are only worthwhile because they sell hardware.
I have this feeling for about one second, before I realize this AAA = for hardcore gamers is a marketing lie we have been conditioned with to obfuscate game quality and to make us buy expensive shit specifically because it's expensive shit and not because it's good. And that I'm twenty years too old to fall for that crap.
Less interested in gaming as a whole? Not really.
Less interested in Nintendo? Absolutely.
I own a Wii U and love the system, there's probably 5-6 games on it that are basically 10/10 classics for me, but the tablet gimmick added NOTHING to any of them, the gamepad is wasted hardware and R&D costs that would've been much better spent on system performance.
The Switch (if rumors are correct) seems to have doubled down on pushing gimmicks and ignoring system power...yeah I'm out this time. I really want to see what Nintendo could do on competitive hardware but I've accepted it ain't gonna happen. Unless something absolutely mind blowing is revealed during the Switch showing in January I'll skip the system entirely. I dont have enough time to play games on 2 systems anyway, much less 3.
Less interested in Nintendo? Absolutely.
I own a Wii U and love the system, there's probably 5-6 games on it that are basically 10/10 classics for me, but the tablet gimmick added NOTHING to any of them, the gamepad is wasted hardware and R&D costs that would've been much better spent on system performance.
The Switch (if rumors are correct) seems to have doubled down on pushing gimmicks and ignoring system power...yeah I'm out this time. I really want to see what Nintendo could do on competitive hardware but I've accepted it ain't gonna happen. Unless something absolutely mind blowing is revealed during the Switch showing in January I'll skip the system entirely. I dont have enough time to play games on 2 systems anyway, much less 3.
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