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Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze |OT| There's always money in the banana stand
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ErrorMacro
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You know what would be really good? With all the recent hirings by Retro, the studio gets big enough to work on two projects, with no quality loss in either: a third DKC game (with soundtrack by David Wise) and new Metroid Prime (with soundtrack by Kenji Yamamoto)
Shame it won't happen 
I've been using the WiiMote + Nunchuck today. IMO it is actually a superior control scheme to the controller. I am enjoying the waggle to ground pound etc. Also I have noticed no lag in comparison to the Wii Pad where I noticed lag.
EDIT: Although they could have easily mapped the ground pound to the z button or the b button rather than using both for the grab.
EDIT: Although they could have easily mapped the ground pound to the z button or the b button rather than using both for the grab.
Freezie KO
Banned
My wish for Retro goes in this order: New IP > Another Nintendo franchise > DKC > Metroid.
I'm loving Tropical Freeze, and I'm fully on board with the idea that only Retro could have made this great game. That said, I see no reason for them to rush into another one. If they did this good a job on DKC, let's see what they can do completely unleashed or with another franchise revival.
Nintendo could use some new experiences, and Retro can always come back to DKC later.
While you're correct that this is probably how Nintendo will interpret it, the reality is not that cut and dry. They can't just look at each title and bemoan the fact that these games would've sold better if the hardware sold better. It's up to the software itself to move the hardware.
So while they'll probably blame the Wii U hardware for sales of games, they need to equally blame their line-up of games for not making the Wii U a desirable enough purchase.
I'm loving Tropical Freeze, and I'm fully on board with the idea that only Retro could have made this great game. That said, I see no reason for them to rush into another one. If they did this good a job on DKC, let's see what they can do completely unleashed or with another franchise revival.
Nintendo could use some new experiences, and Retro can always come back to DKC later.
While you're correct that this is probably how Nintendo will interpret it, the reality is not that cut and dry. They can't just look at each title and bemoan the fact that these games would've sold better if the hardware sold better. It's up to the software itself to move the hardware.
So while they'll probably blame the Wii U hardware for sales of games, they need to equally blame their line-up of games for not making the Wii U a desirable enough purchase.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
It's happening. Holiday 2015. By Monster Games. Considering the quality of their levels on DKCR 3D and after that getting to work with Retro on Tropical Freeze, I'd say we are in for a treat. It won't be as crazy as the console versions, but I think it will be great.
it's more of an insult to how easy most final bosses are nowadays. it was a good, fun fight. nothing in particular gave me trouble. it just tests patience constantly and i was impatient because it's the fucking 2nd boss fight.
Just inviting so much NeoGAF backlash if they do... A single sequel 3 years later had some folks up in arms about it, just imagine a third one instead of new IP/Metroid
Understandable. I was saying earlier in this thread how much of an improvement these boss fights have been over the previous iteration. In fact, there much more fun than most of the other 2D platformers I've played in recent years.
Doesn't matter. None of the games are selling so this is prob the last gen we get of great classics like tr. Nintendo knows they have made good games but they are not going to follow what isn't selling any more.
Non-wearables !!!
The perfect Dark
Banned
Do we have any numbers for Tropical Freeze outside of Japan?
Mr. Wonderful
Member
So another terrible 5.1 audio mix from Nintendo.
What's the trick to get the best audio for this game? Set the system to stereo, or have the receiver convert the "5.1" mix to All-Channel Stereo?
I'm missing out in some David Wise in the current terrible 2.0 channel 5.1 mix
What's the trick to get the best audio for this game? Set the system to stereo, or have the receiver convert the "5.1" mix to All-Channel Stereo?
I'm missing out in some David Wise in the current terrible 2.0 channel 5.1 mix
Im that buddy! And I gots you covered bro dog.
Wasnt expecting a level like Shoal Atoll. At all.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
My preference for their next project would be in order:
1) New IP - Single player, gameplay focused with the same strategies they've used for "storytelling" with their games so far.
2) 3D Zelda - I know they flirted with that Sheik game after Corruption and would love for something similar to be resurrected.
3) 2D Metroid - I think the backlash would be as big as it was for Tropical Freeze (buh buh buh I wanted teh Metroid Primeeeeee!). But with their expertise in Metroid games and 2D game design I have no doubt this project would be incredible.
4) 3D Donkey Kong - My first request would be for Retro to NOT play DK64. I liked the game but I want their imaginations to run wild. Make it as grand as Galaxy was to Mario.
5) 3D third person Metroid - I would love a collaboration with Sakamoto to make the ultimate Metroid. Hell even use Other M as a structural blueprint.
6) Some other Nintendo IP... Star Fox, Kid Icarus, Pikmin, or some original Mario spinoff would be cool.
7) Metroid Prime - I would love the hell out of it for sure, but I want Retro to break new ground.
8) Donkey Kong Country - Same as #7.
1) New IP - Single player, gameplay focused with the same strategies they've used for "storytelling" with their games so far.
2) 3D Zelda - I know they flirted with that Sheik game after Corruption and would love for something similar to be resurrected.
3) 2D Metroid - I think the backlash would be as big as it was for Tropical Freeze (buh buh buh I wanted teh Metroid Primeeeeee!). But with their expertise in Metroid games and 2D game design I have no doubt this project would be incredible.
4) 3D Donkey Kong - My first request would be for Retro to NOT play DK64. I liked the game but I want their imaginations to run wild. Make it as grand as Galaxy was to Mario.
5) 3D third person Metroid - I would love a collaboration with Sakamoto to make the ultimate Metroid. Hell even use Other M as a structural blueprint.
6) Some other Nintendo IP... Star Fox, Kid Icarus, Pikmin, or some original Mario spinoff would be cool.
7) Metroid Prime - I would love the hell out of it for sure, but I want Retro to break new ground.
8) Donkey Kong Country - Same as #7.
UncleSporky
Member
Yeah, that sounds about right. Well, new IP and another Nintendo franchise are interchangeable for me.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Neither was I. I loved it.
Maybe it was a hint that they have a desire to go back to nonlinear exploration based design
moltonasty
Member
I was with you up until this point. Why in the world would they use the worst Metroid game as a structural blueprint? The flow of this game was so "un-Metroid" it's offensive.
Neither was I. I loved it.Maybe it was a hint that they have a desire to go back to nonlinear exploration based design
Just finished it. Got everything but one puzzle piece. Wow what a change of pace. I loved it.
I prefer the analog stick. I just like it. It is particularly good on the water levels.
You can
swim through one of the walls I think on the right side of the screen. Should be somewhat obvious if you're looking for it. You swim in from the bottom and come out the top
Ok Ill keep a lookout. So it's basically the same method as getting the one before that then? (Except for that one I went in from above rather than below).
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Perhaps I should have explained. Other M had some things going for it. A team like Retro would be able to capitalize on it's strengths and eliminate it's weaknesses. The fusion of 2D and 3D gameplay was a great idea and Other M executed it well at times. Samus was fast, and agile for the first time in a 3D space. Obviously you correct the wrongs like substandard (especially for Metroid) art direction, level design, music, and story, all which of course Retro has strengths in all those areas. Make the combat system deeper. I think it could be badass... Team Ninja fucked up the game as much as Sakamoto. Hell even have Tanabe keep an eye on Sakamoto so he doesn't get out of hand and along with Retro, it could be amazing.
Yup. I was kind of surprised they used the same trick twice.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
The perfect Dark
Banned
It's 10-15 seconds before you reach the barrel (end of the level). The last rock on the right.
I bet I know which puzzle piece you missed
Spill it bro cause Im there right now
TheSpaceBetween
Member
It's in
2-K, 4-K, and 6-K. To unlock the K levels you must collect all the KONG letters on each island.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
I'm thinking it's the one
in the beginning. You have to use Dixie to make your way up the collapsing bridge.
Awesome! It wouldn't be a DK game without it.
That is correct. SCORE
Also, Twilight Terror is not only the best place to score coins, but it's also the quickest way to get a Kong of your choice and exit the level it seems. On top of that you get those two bonus coins immediately beforehand from bouncin on Waldough and rolling through the patch of grass he was walking in ON TOP of hearing the Stickerbrush remix.
sogood
re post cause 100th
That is correct. SCORE
Also, Twilight Terror is not only the best place to score coins, but it's also the quickest way to get a Kong of your choice and exit the level it seems. On top of that you get those two bonus coins immediately beforehand from bouncin on Waldough and rolling through the patch of grass he was walking in ON TOP of hearing the Stickerbrush remix.
sogood
It takes mere seconds compared to the Mario games where...well, nevermind because you cant exit the levels with the shit you need. Why the series has abandoned this is baffling to me.
That is correct. SCORE
Also, Twilight Terror is not only the best place to score coins, but it's also the quickest way to get a Kong of your choice and exit the level it seems. On top of that you get those two bonus coins immediately beforehand from bouncin on Waldough and rolling through the patch of grass he was walking in ON TOP of hearing the Stickerbrush remix.
sogood
It takes mere seconds compared to the Mario games where...well, nevermind because you cant exit the levels with the shit you need. Why the series has abandoned this is baffling to me.
I dont believe Ive heard it yet but man, wait til you hear that Bramble Scramble music remixed throughout Cannon Canyon and Rickety Rafters. Hoooooly shit.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
Use Dixie. On the second ball rolling platform (after the vines) you can roll jump through the floating spikes. Do it before the platform comes to a stop and you'll keep your momentum even with Dixie's spinning hair and you can land all the way on the first platform with the burning vines. If you can't quite make it, you can land on the owl (I think it'd be the third owl) and bounce off his head to make to the platform. From there, skip jumping up to the higher platform with the burning vines and do a rolling low jump onto the owl to your right. Don't do high jump off him or the following owl and you'll bounce right to the next vine with a lot of speed.
On the next vine section (after another rolling platform), you don't actually have to grab a single vine. Rolling jumps and Dixie's hair will clear all the gaps. The last gap in this section is a little tricky. You have to do a rolling big jump but let go of the jump button before Dixie's hair activates, and then when you're close to crossing the gap, hold the jump button again to activate her hair and you'll just clear the jump.
On the part with the spikes that come out of the wall, you should be able to roll jump up past the first set of spikes on the right and grab the vine. From here, just keep climbing straight up and let the second spikes on the right hit you. You'll blink long enough to go through them and also through the next set of double spikes on your right. Then drop straight down (you can try to fit between the owl and the spikes or you can just take the owl out) and then activate Dixie's hair and float to the platform on the right.
On the last rolling platform in the level, just roll jump off it a couple seconds after it gets moving to save some time and get to the vines a little faster.
That should get you through without having super duper skills like the first place run. You only need super skills instead
Thanks!
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Finished world one in
!
hard mode. Holy fuck is it hard
Just keep pressing b on map, should let you move lefy and right between worlds
First impressions: Wow. Just... wow.
1-K liked to kick my ass. Several times. It also liked to give me some surprise buttsecks.
Check the options under Controls.
1-K liked to kick my ass. Several times. It also liked to give me some surprise buttsecks.
Check the options under Controls.
I probably missed something then, will check again.