CarbonatedFalcon
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12/6/22 Lich. Life is good.
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DOTA 2 BETA 2 |OT10| Reborn
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Dreams-Visions
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yes that's it.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/213014
A blast from the past (my fourth game ever).
To this day I still have no idea why I bought two Null Talismans on Tiny.
A blast from the past (my fourth game ever).
To this day I still have no idea why I bought two Null Talismans on Tiny.
dont worry i love you too kirby,
and i didnt kick your team's ass btw, anything i do is 100% my team doing well and not me as an individual player
CarbonatedFalcon
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This game was all sorts of silly: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1461946947
Monday. I'm sure all the Immortals for the first 2 chests are completely ready to go, the First chest's items were dated as made in March.
The big one is the Desert Terrain. I don't think Source 1 is able to replace Tile-sets on the fly, so it would need new features introduced in Source 2, and putting the alternative tile in a different map file and just forcing people to choice before playing could lead to a ton of issues down the line.
I believe in slahser's Silencer. The early glaives at least. That shadowblade doesn't sound like a safe pick.
Need to practice Eul's -> LSA more, I don't remember ever landing it. I made some awful decisions to push separately from our team, leaving their bot rax up longer than necessary. Lina was still so fun though.
Been thinking about these posts since I read them earlier and wanted to make a longer reply of my two cents regarding this.
Like these posts, and others said, people complain about these things for various reasons. Some of them warranted, some not so much. For instance, Sniper and Troll? Totally warranted. Those heroes were consistently picked and banned in pro games, they may not have been picked and banned in some regions, but probably because the teams there weren't used to running them. I believe back before TI3, I think I remember something about Chinese players saying Wisp was trash (it may not have been Chinese, I don't remember), while western teams were picking Wisp, and to much success.
However I think probably the main reason is that pub and pro Dota are not necessarily the same game. In pubs, it's frustrating to lose to the same thing over and over again, and to try different things against it, and still lose. It feels like your opponents have a "win" button, and you have a "hopefully not lose" button. Usually the "proper" way to deal with a hero or tactic that people complain about is a very difficult one to execute or coordinate a pub team to do. A good example of this was TI2-era Lycan, remember that? Patch 6.75 happened after TI2, and this is what they changed to Lycan:
This generally meant that before this nerf, Lycan was jungling super fast no matter what unless you made an effort to stop him. The problem with this was that it meant committing a number of team members to go away from their lanes, giving them up to whoever else was in them, and trying to shut down Lycan. You could ward his camps, I remember there was even a video of a tactic that involved Bounty Hunter going into his jungle and last hitting his creeps and his wolves with Jinada, then going back invis. You can probably imagine the hero was VERY frustrating to deal with, especially for pubs. This hero controlled pubs at the time, and of course he was the #1 complaint back then. People get tired of losing to the same thing over and over again, it just seems natural that's a thing people would get frustrated at.
Relating to the current stomp games going on, people get frustrated by stomps, can you blame them? Usually a stomp is something that usually goes to hell in a handbasket at 10-15 minutes and your team probably won't recover from it. That's not saying it isn't possible to recover from it, as a lot of them it is, but it's super frustrating, especially when your pub team has already lost morale/is on tilt/whatever and this makes a comeback less and less likely. It's great that they fixed the comeback mechanics from being stupid, where they were "be greedy and pick 5-cores, then somehow win the game" Right now I feel like it's gone too far back in the other direction, where "all early game and 5-man at 5 minutes" wins most games. This makes a handful of heroes pretty weak, and it's kind of frustrating if you ever end up playing those heroes.
While I don't disagree with the fact that you can always be improving at the game, at the end of the day, people want to know an actual reason why they lost a game. Finding your own mistakes you can improve on is absolutely important though, regardless.
they absolutely have had to make most of them over the past 2-3 months
99% sure the desert terrain is done
all immortals are definitely mostly done if not completely done
everything else, fuck if I know. gif fme pls
I really like your icon, what is it?
I forgot to mention that, that definitely is a viable option, but not always going to happen as you may not be first pick.
I have no idea how the fuck we just won that game. My Pugna is terrible as well.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1462148815
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1462148815
I like how Sniper and Troll are left unabated for the better part of a year, terrorizing the everloving shit out of Dota. Then Undying, a hero that is criminally underpicked since I started playing, comes along and he isn't even given a full month to become FotM before the nerfs start dropping.
As a 2.5k that has played against a lot of Undying in the last week, trust me, we try to kill the tombstone. It's really hard to kill early in the game. Dirge is a real son of a bitch and I'd play him nonstop if I played ranked or cared about winning more than randoming and goofing off.
Pureauthor
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I'm having new hat withdrawal.
Vaaaaaalve give me the new chest aready
Vaaaaaalve give me the new chest aready
While im excited to see the new immortals in not going to go apeshit over them
The TI4 immortals are still only 20c or so in the market
So in September when all of these new immortals are marketable I will buy the ones I want for $2 and be happy I didnt spend $40 on my compendium
From prior experience (not dota2) music be like "hey we need music done in 2 weeks can you get an orchestra/studio booking together"
SilentRacoon
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Im done trying to play as carry, every time I try to do it I lose the damn game, I will just stick to supporting and deal with it. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/121006605 I guess I just don't know how to farm efficiently enough, and the fact I'm accustomed to playing as support.
shira
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While im excited to see the new immortals in not going to go apeshit over them
The TI4 immortals are still only 20c or so in the market
So in September when all of these new immortals are marketable I will buy the ones I want for $2 and be happy I didnt spend $40 on my compendium
SilentRacoon
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mate those battlefuries
I'm guessing it wasn't the best idea ever to go for it in both of those matches?
Like I said I'm not too familiar with carry heroes.
shira
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I think there is going to be a few more revisions.
Coreshrac is so gross
Ok, he's back in the garbage bin again.
Battlefury is a very overrated item for a lot of heroes
I watch carry friends try to get it for 20+ minutes and then when the late game comes they have very little to show (these are my own 2k pub experiences tho, take with grain of salt)
~53% is not garbage
Ok, he's back in the garbage bin again.
SilentRacoon
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Thanks for the tip will keep that in mind in future games.
manfestival
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mirana players are the embodiment of everything wrong with dota 2
SecretMoblin
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A Sentient Keyboard
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I'm inclined to agree.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Vade
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We definitely will need you even if our Seattle player finds the quote on quote"nerds" I think if you post in the ihl thread we will be good; game is at 1 est
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