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Dota 2 Beta Thread V: Real Talk Strikes Back [Tutorials]

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shira

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is this Enzio cup a pub tournament?

lower tier, I guess if you didn't get invited to Cursed
I guess Ayesee >>> Tobi


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Dragon Edge by Bel & Andy125
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Nice, need a new DK sword.
 
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One of the most aggressive support heroes in the game (above average burst damage, ridiculous cc), he can gank anyone provided he maxes Glimpse early (I find it best maxed first), pubs don't know how to play him or against him (83rd in popularity), and he snowballs like a blizzard.

Most of the time I just random or play whatever's needed, though.

Using Glimpse on someone who is TP'ing in is probably the single most fun thing to do in Dota 2
 

1.09

Low Tier
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One of the most aggressive support heroes in the game (above average burst damage, ridiculous cc), he can gank anyone provided he maxes Glimpse early (I find it best maxed first), pubs don't know how to play him or against him (83rd in popularity), and he snowballs like a blizzard.

Most of the time I just random or play whatever's needed, though.

While Disruptor is one of the best supports in the midgame and during team fights, he is one of the weakest in terms of lane presence in the early game though.
 

Gxgear

Member
Are those Siberia v2 most streamers wear good value/quality? My current headset (Creative Fatality, for reference's sake) is starting to go so am looking to replace it.
 
I had one fun kill,sniper used his shadowblade and new creeps came along and killed him in the process when killing those creeps. And yes i used that boat when doing teamfights so mutch fun!

The boat takes a bit of practice to start getting it. That's what most people fail as Kunkka, that has low cooldown, movement buff and does a lot of damage (400 I think on the first level).
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
When you join a game, what are your go to heroes to ensure you will win or have a high chance to?

Mine is lich. If I join a RD game and lich is in the pool, I will almost always pick him, go to safelane and straight up sac. every creep possible, harass as much as possible, pick up Tranq boots and snowball into a support megazord.

It's not always the most fun to play him, but if i want to win, thats how i do it. Lich is very good at being fucking annoying to the opponents, even more annoying than a dot spamming silencer.

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Can function as a solo-laner, part of a dual lane or a cog in a tri-lane. Can fill a variety of roles with minimal changes in item build thanks to the versatility of his skills. Slots well into most lineups because, really, what team doesn't want 1.5 reliable disables, a strong aoe nuke and a pushing spell that also makes teamfights miserable?
 

Nokterian

Member
The boat takes a bit of practice to start getting it. That's what most people fail as Kunkka, that has low cooldown, movement buff and does a lot of damage (400 I think on the first level).

Yeah i need to practice it but killing hero's with tidebringer is so damn cool and creeps in 1 hit.
 

HK-47

Oh, bitch bitch bitch.
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One of the most aggressive support heroes in the game (above average burst damage, ridiculous cc), he can gank anyone provided he maxes Glimpse early (I find it best maxed first), pubs don't know how to play him or against him (83rd in popularity), and he snowballs like a blizzard.

Most of the time I just random or play whatever's needed, though.

Weak laning support, especially for aggressive tri lanes.
 
Weak laning support, especially for aggressive tri lanes.

What's the best support against Trilanes? Like 1 support w/carry vs trilane.

I had this situation on me, and the people from other lane didn't move an inch. We did surprisingly well with just Jakiro (me) and Void.
 
When you join a game, what are your go to heroes to ensure you will win or have a high chance to?

Mine is lich. If I join a RD game and lich is in the pool, I will almost always pick him, go to safelane and straight up sac. every creep possible, harass as much as possible, pick up Tranq boots and snowball into a support megazord.

It's not always the most fun to play him, but if i want to win, thats how i do it. Lich is very good at being fucking annoying to the opponents, even more annoying than a dot spamming silencer.

Lich used to be real effective for me until I got my hidden mmr higher. People can deal with him at higher levels. If you find warlocks efficacy falling off and think it's because your mmr is getting higher, it may be time to transition to warlock, who can win the vast majority of normals for you with an ags refresher build.

As for me, I've been doing great with zeus and ss lately.
 

shira

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Are those Siberia v2 most streamers wear good value/quality? My current headset (Creative Fatality, for reference's sake) is starting to go so am looking to replace it.

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For which audio or speaking? Tobi usually just uses iphone headphones and a separate mic

The Siberias are heavy. You want something really light or not on your head if gaming for 1+ hours.
They are pretty shitty imho, but they pay the bills for the players.

GD studio uses these all in one deals for concerts
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1.09

Low Tier
What's the best support against Trilanes? Like 1 support w/carry vs trilane.

I had this situation on me, and the people from other lane didn't move an inch. We did surprisingly well with just Jakiro (me) and Void.

rubick, es, or better yet, yell at your team for not moving to counter their trilane
 

Sibylus

Banned
Using Glimpse on someone who is TP'ing in is probably the single most fun thing to do in Dota 2
Yup, it never gets old. I'm going to do a little happy dance when I unlock the achievement for the first time.

While Disruptor is one of the best supports in the midgame and during team fights, he is one of the weakest in terms of lane presence in the early game though.
Weak laning support, especially for aggressive tri lanes.
Eh. Good attack range for harassment, Thunder Strike's damage is plenty relevant during laning (but you have to make your move early). Obviously depends on the hero you're laning with.
 
I LOVE Juggernaut, man. He's so stronk in pubs. I so rarely lose with him, he's by far one of my most successful heros, especially as of late. I love experimenting with his build too - it's always Phase for me, but what comes next differs. I tried out the 'speed' build last game, getting a Drum and Yasha. I pwned though, so I could quickly afford Sange and Yasha, Aghanim's, Vladimir's and Desolator. That 12 jump ult, man... I cleared 3 heroes in their fountain with that.
 

Hylian7

Member
Fixed. But we were playing with 3 people that game, that BS and Rubik did shit all that game, laning with that Rubik drove me crazy and had to abandon lane and went top.

BS did okay I thought, he pulled off some ganks, although he dived too deep into too many people a lot I felt like. There wasn't too much for Rubick to steal in there, but yeah, he didn't really do much otherwise. I don't think he ever got Call Down or Snowball.

I did some WORK top lane early game. I'm usually terrible at long lane and I was nervous about it, but holy shit I was proud of how that turned out.
 
it looked to me like the bs was doing a lot of work in the early-mid game

also, i don't think that game was winnable at that point, even if you hadn't chased the ta. it looks like gyro was 6 slotted with the most appropriate items. even if he wasn't, bs and rubick couldn't do anything at that point, and enigma would be useless after blackhole and sheep
 
Fixed. But we were playing with 3 people that game, that BS and Rubik did shit all that game, laning with that Rubik drove me crazy and had to abandon lane and went top and tried my best to dig my self out of the hole that I was in.

real talk. :(

it looked to me like the bs was doing a lot of work in the early-mid game

also, i don't think that game was winnable at that point, even if you hadn't chased the ta. it looks like gyro was 6 slotted with the most appropriate items. even if he wasn't, bs and rubick couldn't do anything at that point, and enigma would be useless after blackhole and sheep

I didn't even realize Gyro was so big until I looked up and only me and Weaver were standing. Bfly AND Satanic AND BKB AND MKB AND Divine...

Silly.

I don't know why this map awareness things keeps happening to me. This is fucking frustrating.

Excitement of the moment. You can even hear it in your voice. lol
 

bzm

Member
real talk. :(



I didn't even realize Gyro was so big until I looked up and only me and Weaver were standing. Bfly AND Satanic AND BKB AND MKB AND Divine...

Silly.



Excitement of the moment. You can even hear it in your voice. lol

Hylian freaks the fuck out whenever something goes well.
 

Ikuu

Had his dog run over by Blizzard's CEO
You got it pretty late, and by the time you had it could have made some cheaper items and been more useful. You had like 800HP when you had the Radiance, far too easy to burst down.
 

Raxus

Member
I have been practicing online versus bits but that only takes you so far. I need to play actual people but I dread pub games and I can't even find a game even if I try. Anyone wanna help me get better at this game?
 

Hylian7

Member
You got it pretty late, and by the time you had it could have made some cheaper items and been more useful. You had like 800HP when you had the Radiance, far too easy to burst down.
Then is it ever viable on anyone? It seems like everyone hates Radiance now. What is the cutoff to get one?

Edit: It also eats Refraction charges...
 

Finalow

Member
Then is it ever viable on anyone? It seems like everyone hates Radiance now. What is the cutoff to get one?

Edit: It also eats Refraction charges...
it's ok vs ta (not if you farm it too late) otherwise just go linkens > manta > crit or mkb if you need it.
 

Ultrabum

Member
I have been practicing online versus bits but that only takes you so far. I need to play actual people but I dread pub games and I can't even find a game even if I try. Anyone wanna help me get better at this game?

The best way to get better is to just play! Even if your getting stomped there is always something you can practice, even its its stop canceling your ult in the fountain.
 

1.09

Low Tier
Then is it ever viable on anyone? It seems like everyone hates Radiance now. What is the cutoff to get one?

Edit: It also eats Refraction charges...

wasting 5150 gold just to counter a very easily countered hero isn't worth your time. you can get a deso for 4100 and it'll do more damage.
 

shira

Member
I have been practicing online versus bits but that only takes you so far. I need to play actual people but I dread pub games and I can't even find a game even if I try. Anyone wanna help me get better at this game?

The MM actually does a good job of matching you up with someone of equal skill. If you just play a game with the higher level players (IE have them carry you) you don't really get anything out of that.

If you want to play carry - then you already know if you are good or not.

If you want to play support watch some pro matches and follow their habits. Wards, creep stacking, ganks.

It's kind of hard to ask someone to teach you for 40 hours how to play
 

Shepard

Member
wasting 5150 gold just to counter a very easily countered hero isn't worth your time. you can get a deso for 4100 and it'll do more damage.

The good thing about radiance is, if your team is doing really good, it can speed up your farm a lot, specially on a Weaver, who doesn't have any aoe spell (aside from running through the creeps, but that's still slower).
 

Hylian7

Member
wasting 5150 gold just to counter a very easily countered hero isn't worth your time. you can get a deso for 4100 and it'll do more damage.
But when is it actually viable? What's the cutoff (in minutes) to get one? Should I have just made the relic into Abyssal Blade or just never even bought it?
 

Des0lar

will learn eventually
Fucking weekends in Dota. This fucking shit makes me so angry, I can't comprehend.

People with more than 300 wins, abso-fucking-lutely having no clue and ruining the game for others. Holy shit.

First this happens:
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The Brewmaster game i even lost, AFTER I went 12 / 1 and ONE OF THE ENEMY TEAM FED DELIBERATLY. I mean we played 5vs4 and one of their teammates fed us kills on purpose AND WE STILL LOST. WTF.

And then the last game, finally a good game with brood, I feel confident, get lots of kills

AND THEN THIS FUCKING SK ON OUR TEAM
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Yes I need to vent
 

Sibylus

Banned
But when is it actually viable? What's the cutoff (in minutes) to get one? Should I have just made the relic into Abyssal Blade or just never even bought it?
Weaver is probably a hero who could thrive on an early Abyssal Blade between the added stun and monstrous Geminate damage, though it's almost as dicey as the early Radiance. I'd be tempted to go early Abyssal on Doom if his armor gap wasn't so horrifying.
 
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