I remember Crit being pretty good on the teams he played, but its been a while.
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Third in xpm and fourth in gpm is pretty far from poor.
Gentle Rodriguez
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You think there's any pro carry out there that can't average that? You can easily average 600 GPM and still play like garbage, you can't quantify good carry play with 2 numbers. It's about decision making, item builds, skill builds, positioning, etc. Playing a carry is more simple than other roles but not as simple as you're making it out to be.
Hell, I've had games in which I had over 600 gpm but still played like crap.
But not every pro carry averaged that at TI5.
I mean sure they could have. But they didn't.
Monochromaticx
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Chinese reaction to the new team secret line up
Shuggananas
Banned
The only real measurement of skill is kills - deaths (don't listen to the KDA truthers they're nothing but trash)
Heavy's Sandvich
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only real measurement of skill - winning important games in important tournaments.
Dreams-Visions
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Gentle Rodriguez
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And I'm saying that in the grand scheme of things how high your GPM is doesn't matter that much when you're losing games, also gpm heavily depends on what hero you're playing.
Like I can quote RTZ's kda for the main event to "prove" that he had a bad tournament and it would make about as much sense.
Visualante2
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Real talk, I didn't even realise the sign had a function besides playing mind games with the enemy. Someone pointed out the protection aspect and I was like whoah.
Shuggananas
Banned
That's only with aghs though
Yeah it's strong but.. not that much ? It's not like the sign is invisible itself so you pretty much know you have to avoid the zone
Yeah it's strong but.. not that much ? It's not like the sign is invisible itself so you pretty much know you have to avoid the zone
Sumail's KDA: 4.64
Arteezy's KDA: 3.76
I WONDER WHY EG SWITCHED UP THEIR WHOLE ROSTER TO GET THIS ADEQUATE MOTHER FUCKER
Shuggananas
Banned
lmao 2 mid players
Shuggananas
Banned
this twitter bullshit is so ridiculous, twitter's community is so fucking stupid
The Tobiwan Twitter? Hopefully Tobi is aware of what happened and is working to get his account back.
lv2 pidgey
Member
classic twitter
when two people in your party force you to play lpq games and the games are somehow better than regular matchmaking
when two people in your party force you to play lpq games and the games are somehow better than regular matchmaking
Dreams-Visions
Member
Twitter even has a community? (has never sent a tweet)
Well, surely it has to have one, otherwise it wouldn't exist, correct?
Black Twitter is amazing.
NormalFish
Banned
are those two things related?
the tilt is very real
NormalFish
Banned
this perfectly explains my luck with romance.
Dreams-Visions
Member
church
urs is more of an aghanim's sceptre
Probably shouldn't try dating or Dota while inebriated unless you expect both to be super clowny.
NormalFish
Banned
Well you don't START that way, that's for sure. I mean maybe you aren't by the end of it, but that's whatever.
I know obviously Techies gets a lot of hate now, but I'm curious what exactly prompted it because it seems to be there ever since 6.84 dropped.
He got a bunch of buffs in this patch, most of it being cooldown reductions, activation delay reductions, and of course the Minefield Sign Aghanim's buff which is the big one. Other than that though, the reasons people seem to hate him now are still stuff he had before 6.84: Makes going high ground more difficult, frustrating to walk into mines early game, suicides out of deaths.
Obviously the Minefield Sign change was pretty significant, but most agree that to deal with it, you just wait it out, push a different lane, or if it's to the point where he's using it to defend T4's/throne, just pick a different angle to attack from.
I guess the way I see it, Minefield Sign isn't much better than what he used to do, and still does with mines without the sign: Put them in clusters on high ground, force staff people in that try to get rid of them, etc. The only difference is you can't kill them, but killing them was always difficult because of lack of vision on the high ground, uphill miss, and of course being scared of getting Force Staffed into them. With Minefield Sign and Aghanim's, you know EXACTLY where a cluster of mines is, and to avoid that area for the next 180 seconds. There are still two other lanes, and if it's the last one that's keeping you from Mega Creeps, you can always wait it out, push the other lanes in and get the team to defend, or just try to wipe them away from the sign and let the creeps do the work in the last lane.
Like I said though, how is this much different than how he was in 6.83 and previous patches?
He got a bunch of buffs in this patch, most of it being cooldown reductions, activation delay reductions, and of course the Minefield Sign Aghanim's buff which is the big one. Other than that though, the reasons people seem to hate him now are still stuff he had before 6.84: Makes going high ground more difficult, frustrating to walk into mines early game, suicides out of deaths.
Obviously the Minefield Sign change was pretty significant, but most agree that to deal with it, you just wait it out, push a different lane, or if it's to the point where he's using it to defend T4's/throne, just pick a different angle to attack from.
I guess the way I see it, Minefield Sign isn't much better than what he used to do, and still does with mines without the sign: Put them in clusters on high ground, force staff people in that try to get rid of them, etc. The only difference is you can't kill them, but killing them was always difficult because of lack of vision on the high ground, uphill miss, and of course being scared of getting Force Staffed into them. With Minefield Sign and Aghanim's, you know EXACTLY where a cluster of mines is, and to avoid that area for the next 180 seconds. There are still two other lanes, and if it's the last one that's keeping you from Mega Creeps, you can always wait it out, push the other lanes in and get the team to defend, or just try to wipe them away from the sign and let the creeps do the work in the last lane.
Like I said though, how is this much different than how he was in 6.83 and previous patches?
I'm already too much of a clumsy, goofball, loud, howl-laughing girl when sober, nobody needs to see me drunk
Well before TI5 people had this kind of hate for him though. Did it ever get to this level in any particular era during WC3 Dota? From all I read about it, competitive Techies was much rarer that he is today.
techies was mostly a troll pick in wc3 dota since low tier teams absolutely had no idea how to deal with him. Pubs hate him because techies players was fucking useless back then
That's true, I mean I know the average skill level of a WC3 Dota pub was normally pretty low and all over the place. When I tried it for funzies about two years ago, it was like that. 3-4 couriers in base, my team was yelling at me for going Blink Dagger (or Kelen's Dagger rather) on Tinker instead of going straight for Scythe after BoTs and Soul Ring.