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[TUSR]

that dude has more pl matches than i have total games played of dota 1/2 + hon

 

[Lemon Crest]

idk i like the way TAKI plays him

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/51823648

That's disgusting.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

idk i like the way TAKI plays him

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/51823648

I'm pretty sure that's illegal in some countries

 

[Sianos]

TAKI, a man after my own heart...

 

[LiQuid!]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

Most of his game end in 35-45 minutes, after which DK drops off(though not as hard as some other heroes), this guys obviously fully understands that and either finishes in that timeframe or has a high risk of losing.

I don't understand why you would go the same item build on the same hero every single game though, I doubt he even has that great of an understanding of what DK is capable of as he never tries anything out of the ordinary or adapts to enemy heroes or different situations. It's like assuming the world is flat because you're too scared to find out if that's actually true.

But I guess if he's having fun...

 

[Reckoner]

What is this

clicked on take me to the compendium page and Reborn just plain crashes.

 

[Chris R]

Holy shit, that feeling when you ALMOST throw mega creeps. Troll, Invoker and WR were clearing the waves with ease and people kept running in one at a time.

 

[G-Unit]

Check out @DOTA2's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DOTA2/status/623574550370856960?s=09

The TI5 champs

 

[Reckoner]

The hell

You made me notice that Lil B is following Dota 2's Twitter. He's so based. Does he really play it?

Btw Artour's great music taste makes him the goat and his streams are really fun. I'm definitely all Team Secret for TI5.

 

[Monochromaticx]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

Probably played the tutorial and decided to stick with DK

 

[abunai]

All these teams arriving in seattle
so hypeeee

 

[Ikuu]

The hell

You made me notice that Lil B is following Dota 2's Twitter. He's so based. Does he really play it?

Btw Artour's great music taste makes him the goat and his streams are really fun. I'm definitely all Team Secret for TI5.

Lil B is following 1.25m accounts, I'd imagine his bot just adds everyone that follows him or has a decent amount of followers.

 

[Kard8p3]

idk i generally play a lot of heroes, but if i feel a hero is free mmr (jugg/troll/undying in the past, pl now (for me at least)) I will play them more than others. even if that is hella disgusting lol

 

[Reckoner]

Holy shit guys

I felt like a true carry now. Totally inspired by Hylian7's yesterday streaming, started practicing with Storm Spirit. Just won a 4vs5 match now. Really fun hero. So much powah.

Lil B is following 1.25m accounts, I'd imagine his bot just adds everyone that follows him or has a decent amount of followers.

Yeah, I noticed that. But Dota 2 seemed a bit out of a place, so for a second I thought he was really into it. Maybe he is. Someone ask him pls.

 

[Acinixys]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

>Normal Skill

Into the trash it goes

 

[Reckoner]

>Normal Skill

Into the trash it goes

Why u so mean

 

[Pratfall]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

this is equivalent to playing candy crush

 

[Monochromaticx]

If anyone wants to have their favorite team logo on their avatar let me know.

 

[twobear]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

¿hupsel?

 

[Glass Shark]

There was a DK in my game the other night that has 1,300 games as DK and FOUR games total with the rest of the hero pool. I don't understand the mindset of anybody that can like ANY hero enough to play only that hero, much less a hero as boring as DK.

Here this guy:

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/168868741/matches

Look at the item builds too! No matter how long the game lasts he never gets more than 3-4 slotted with a heart or AC being the last item. How is that even possible?!

At least one of those matches he was forced to play a different hero because someone else already picked DK.

 

[Red UFO]

At least one of those matches he was forced to play a different hero because someone else already picked DK.

He bought a maelstrom on zeus...

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1583359576

 

[Shuggananas]

how can you play the same hero 1200 times and still suck ass and be normal skill what the hell

dude is taking the tutorial to heart

 

[twobear]

how can you play the same hero 1200 times and still suck ass and be normal skill what the hell

¿hupsel?

 

[Pratfall]

idk i like the way TAKI plays him

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/51823648

do you build PL like he does? how does the radiance work? I would think skadi is a much better pickup on the new PL. Also, stats over doppleganger still seems bad. Being able to dopple every 10 seconds increases your farming speed and makes you much more elusive in fights.

 

[Shuggananas]

radiance sucks, skipping doppel for stats is a stupid idea started by EE but you shouldn't follow what he does, skill is fuckin good

 

[twobear]

i have literally no idea why people skip doppelganger, it's easily one of the most broken abilities in dota 2

 

[kionedrik]

I don't agree with skipping doppelganger as well but it's perfectly understandable why some people do it.

PL has shit HP and strength gain, illusions need stats and a lot of people still look at him primarily as a split pusher, which means you'll only need your escape once in a while.

 

[Shuggananas]

6 stats makes you farm 80% faster
doppel is also a great mobility spell btw, to cut trees, walk over cliffs, etc

 

[twobear]

then skip E instead

doppelganger is literally one of the dumbest, most broken spells in dota, if your 'way' of playing the hero is to skip it then you need to revaluate your life choices

 

[Drkirby]

i have literally no idea why people skip doppelganger, it's easily one of the most broken abilities in dota 2

Does no damage man, no damage! How am I supposed to farm with a no damage spell?

 

[kionedrik]

then skip E instead

doppelganger is literally one of the dumbest, most broken spells in dota, if your 'way' of playing the hero is to skip it then you need to revaluate your life choices

There are spells far more broken than doppelganger. fotm pick bs has 3 more broken than it.
Phantom Rush is one of those value point skills and a lot of people look at doppelganger the same way.

Leaving Drow's silence at 1 is much more retarded than leaving doppelganger at 1 imho.

 

[Monochromaticx]

oh hey just saw that the main event predictions are now open.

 

[twobear]

There are spells far more broken than doppelganger. fotm pick bs has 3 more broken than it.
Phantom Rush is one of those value point skills and a lot of people look at doppelganger the same way.

Leaving Drow's silence at 1 is much more retarded than leaving doppelganger at 1 imho.

maybe if drow's silence also disabled passives, made drow immune to right clicks, and cost 50 mana

 

[sleverfunk]

Huskar is gonna be the breakout hero on TI5.

Spoiler

I want to believe.

 

[kionedrik]

maybe if drow's silence also disabled passives, made drow immune to right clicks, and cost 50 mana

Mana-wise I agree with you, on the rest you're just being silly.

When I play PL I always skill him 4-4-1-3 because I like the low cooldown on doppelganger and I like to build PL for battle instead of endlessly split-pushing. A lot of people still see him as he was 2 years ago, including pros, and copycats love to follow blindly what others, more famous people, have done, without trying to understand why they are doing it. Back then doppelwalk (?) was also a value point skill most of the times and I think you could disjoint projectiles as well, although I'm not 100% sure on this.

 

[Shuggananas]

Huskar is gonna be the breakout hero on TI5.

Spoiler

I want to believe.

I think he won't even be picked, just like riki, pudge, kunkka, meepo, sniper, troll*

* : excluding "matches that don't matter" if there's any

 

[Pratfall]

Mana-wise I agree with you, on the rest you're just being silly.

When I play PL I always skill him 4-4-1-3 because I like the low cooldown on doppelganger and I like to build PL for battle instead of endlessly split-pushing. A lot of people still see him as he was 2 years ago, including pros, and copycats love to follow blindly what others, more famous people, have done, without trying to understand why they are doing it. Back then doppelwalk (?) was also a value point skill most of the times and I think you could disjoint projectiles as well, although I'm not 100% sure on this.

if you are building him for battle, I am of the opinion that you shouldn't skip phantom rush. The cooldown and range boost makes it so you can be much more elusive in fights in combination with doppleganger. This allows you to still fight and disengage before you get your first tank item (skadi, heart, manta or satanic).

 

[sleverfunk]

I think he won't even be picked, just like riki, pudge, kunkka, meepo, sniper, troll*

* : excluding "matches that don't matter" if there's any

Yeah. He's such a hard hero to fit into a lineup.

I hope valve would reveal the next hero just like what they did to tech.

 

[KingKong]

I bet Kunkka's getting picked for some kind of gimmick lineup. Riki too. Pudge and Meepo only if a team is desparate

 

[Shuggananas]

Yeah. He's such a hard hero to fit into a lineup.

I hope valve would reveal the next hero just like what they did to tech.

they have
Just check the picture above the "frost avalanche" text. Zet.

Unless you mean a showmatch which I doubt, we have no hint towards Zet being close to release.

I bet Kunkka's getting picked for some kind of gimmick lineup. Riki too. Pudge and Meepo only if a team is desparate

Maybe a kunkka SD or kunkka OD combo (OD with aghs is perfect as a combo with ghost ship)

 

[kionedrik]

if you are building him for battle, I am of the opinion that you shouldn't skip phantom rush. The cooldown and range boost makes it so you can be much more elusive in fights in combination with doppleganger. This allows you to still fight and disengage before you get your first tank item (skadi, heart, manta or satanic).

It's not really necessary because:
- Lance has low cd and a pretty good slow
- You only want to show up to fights after you get diffusal, so you can use that to catch up
- You can always use doppelganger forward towards the target

You also don't want to be the one doing the tanking for a while and that's another reason doppelganger is so good. If things heat up you can always create illusions and hope that they confuse them enough for you to finish the job.

 

[Pratfall]

It's not really necessary because:
- Lance has low cd and a pretty good slow
- You only want to show up to fights after you get diffusal, so you can use that to catch up
- You can always use doppelganger forward towards the target

You also don't want to be the one doing the tanking for a while and that's another reason doppelganger is so good. If things heat up you can always create illusions and hope that they confuse them enough for you to finish the job.

The only thing I see as a drawback to this strategy is that a lot of your dps comes from diffusal procs from illusions. Phantom rush allows all your illusions to chase while lance, diffusal blade and dopplewalk only brings yourself and 1 illusion. I can see both being viable but phantom rush on your illusions is very nice.

Also, phantom rush is a haste effect so you can chase through slows.

 

[shira]

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[Shuggananas]

if wearing a video game shirt is bad then I don't know what I can say about wearing an esports team shirt

 

[kionedrik]

The only thing I see as a drawback to this strategy is that a lot of your dps comes from diffusal procs from illusions. Phantom rush allows all your illusions to chase while lance, diffusal blade and dopplewalk only brings yourself and 1 illusion. I can see both being viable but phantom rush on your illusions is very nice.

Also, phantom rush is a haste effect so you can chase through slows.

PL main strength was always his ability to quickly create a massive army of illusions. Add the fact that illusions damage is a % of your physical base damage but they do full mana burn damage and you'll get that your main source of damage will always be your illusions mana burning your opponent at the same time they continuously reproduce. That's why diffusal is the biggest damage item PL can get in the early-mid game and it's a core on the hero. If the enemy has no mana to burn he becomes as effective as AM.

Doppelganger moves all your illusions in a rather big AoE to the destination AoE and creates 2 more. So if you're chacing with 3 illusions after you cast doppelganger you'll have 5 illusions to mana burn the target and, if I'm not mistaken although I'd love someone to confirm it, Phantom Rush cd is reset after doppelganger on you and your illusions.

 

[LiQuid!]

How come Team Secret is still Team Secret without a big esports organization sponsor?

 

[Ikuu]

How come Team Secret is still Team Secret without a big esports organization sponsor?

Because they realized that if you're the best you don't need an organisation taking a cut of everything and telling you what to do.

 

[Pratfall]

PL main strength was always his ability to quickly create a massive army of illusions. Add the fact that illusions damage is a % of your physical base damage but they do full mana burn damage and you'll get that your main source of damage will always be your illusions mana burning your opponent at the same time they continuously reproduce. That's why diffusal is the biggest damage item PL can get in the early-mid game and it's a core on the hero. If the enemy has no mana to burn he becomes as effective as AM.

Doppelganger moves all your illusions in a rather big AoE to the destination AoE and creates 2 more. So if you're chacing with 3 illusions after you cast doppelganger you'll have 5 illusions to mana burn the target and, if I'm not mistaken although I'd love someone to confirm it, Phantom Rush cd is reset after doppelganger on you and your illusions.

The doppleganger moving all your illusions is a good point. Hmmm, I will give the value point in rush, the rest into stats build a try. Though I cant find anything that says that doppleganger resets phantom rush CD.

 

[dave is ok]

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Wheres the Cyborgmatt jersey?