Support NeoGAF

[Shuggananas]

PL is perfectly fine

 

[yarden24]

Don't begrudge a Doom that wants to buy more armour. It's his job to frontline.

I mean, getting 20 more armour isnt bad, especially against slardar and TA, but without the aura, its kind of half the item no?

 

[sleverfunk]

Kunkka really need some serious buff. He's been shit tier for a long time.

 

[Shuggananas]

Kunkka needs a redesign
His cleave is bland as fuck

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

I can't play Kunkka but I really like all of his moves the way they are except the cleave, a complete redesign is unneccesary. Cleave could get replaced by another passive(I don't think his mana pool can handle another active) but I don't know what would synergize well with his skillset.

 

[Red UFO]

My biggest problem with Kunkka is that Ember Spirit does a very similar job and so much better. I wonder if a Kunkka buff + ES nerf in the same patch could make him somewhat relevant again.

Edit: unless the aspects of kka that make him a viable support get buffed instead

 

[Sigismundo]

What exactly is the benefit of Radiance Alchemist again? You farm super fast with it and double up on AOE with Acid Spray or something?

 

[Deltoid]

I can't play Kunkka but I really like all of his moves the way they are except the cleave, a complete redesign is unneccesary. Cleave could get replaced by another passive(I don't think his mana pool can handle another active) but I don't know what would synergize well with his skillset.

yeah I like kunkka but I dunno how you buff him into relevance without making him op, that suggests a rework is required

 

[Monochromaticx]

Lich ulti needs to be on a lower cd and cost less mana
200/350/500 is stupid

 

[Shuggananas]

yeah I like kunkka but I dunno how you buff him into relevance without making him op, that suggests a rework is required

make his cleave a circle rather than a cone ?
Donno

 

[kionedrik]

Kunkka needs lower mana cost on torrent (10 or 20 less) and rework the way boat works (make it hit the AoE you select instead of a fixed distance in front of Kunkka).

The problem of buffing Kunkka too much is that he is a very utility based character that can scale, which means he will be a threat from min 1 till the end of the game.

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Lich ulti needs to be on a lower cd and cost less mana
200/350/500 is stupid

I never ran into mana problems with Lich so I don't see why that would be necessary, the ulti has already been buffed a shitload.

 

[Shuggananas]

So like a tusk but with skillshots ? I'm fine with that

 

[sleverfunk]

Apply slow on cleave. idk pretty op lmao

 

[G.ZZZ]

Kka just need a small buff to be a viable support. Like XTMS increased range. Or mana cost on torrent (why 120?!??!!?). He is such a sick hero at lvl 6 , but sadly fall off a cliff later on unless you farm like a madman.

Also when dotaallstars still existed i proposed a change on witchcraft that would summon a ghost every time u cast a spell, duration scaling with the level of witchcraft. Obviously it wouldn't increase the number of ghosts on the ulti anymore, but the concept was that you'd have a bit of ghosts all the time not only in ulty and would make the hero more unique.

 

[jew]

Hey guys you don't have to post every game you own with a bad hero haha. I know you guys are good at Dota, but don't put low skilled players such as myself down! I only watch Dota recreationally now and I appreciate the finer nuances of the game through the highly intelligent, inundated, and virile concepts this forum serves to provide. I thank you each and every day for your contributions to society and your personal role in gracing me with your wisdom.

 

[Shuggananas]

Kka just need a small buff to be a viable support. Like XTMS increased range. Or mana cost on torrent (why 120?!??!!?). He is such a sick hero at lvl 6 , but sadly fall off a cliff later on unless you farm like a madman.

Also when dotaallstars still existed i proposed a change on witchcraft that would summon a ghost every time u cast a spell, duration scaling with the level of witchcraft. Obviously it wouldn't increase the number of ghosts on the ulti anymore, but the concept was that you'd have a bit of ghosts all the time not only in ulty and would make the hero more unique.

If you want him to be a viable support then you need to do something about his cleave
Maybe cleave should apply effects on hit or something

I don't know man kunkka always fucking sucked

 

[Deltoid]

Also when dotaallstars still existed i proposed a change on witchcraft that would summon a ghost every time u cast a spell, duration scaling with the level of witchcraft. Obviously it wouldn't increase the number of ghosts on the ulti anymore, but the concept was that you'd have a bit of ghosts all the time not only in ulty and would make the hero more unique.

dude this would be so good

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I won a game as Pugna.

 

[Twookie]

cleave range is now global

one and done, viable

on a more serious note, i'm sure icefraud has some fixes for him next patch, next patch is going to be huuuge

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

This patch is important, the one after is more crucial.

Valve being able to support and change things up on more regular basis will help Dota 2 out of its stagnancy.

 

[Deltoid]

This patch is important, the one after is more crucial.

Valve being able to support and change things up on more regular basis will help Dota 2 out of its stagnancy.

go play lol if that's what you want

i hope valve have the sense to see the cons of this

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I'm off to play LoL and other games then.

It's been fun lads.

 

[Shuggananas]

bye bitch

 

[NormalFish]

I won a game as Pugna.

Pugna is fun as hell

 

[twobear]

nah i'm with hs on this one, 6.86 should have been out like a month ago at least

 

[Shuggananas]

Pugna is fun as hell

yeah but people can't play him for shit
they see his aghs and decrepify and think "lol imma nuke motherfuckers out of orbit with dagon aghs xddd"

But then they have 700 hp and feed all game. Fuck that shit.
Real pugnas exploit blast and the ward to win fights and push hardcore super early. greaves necro octarine necro refresher get mega at 13 minutes ez win

 

[kionedrik]

next week is technically mid of December so we can exp...

bah who am I kidding...

 

[Shuggananas]

Star wars and 6.86 on the same day

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

I'm back from playing LoL, didn't realise how many champions Dota took from that game.

 

[JawesomeJaw]

It won't happen but I'd love to see some salt at The Summit with a patch full of changes hitting right as the thing starts. Let's go full reality show surprise challange on this.

 

[Shuggananas]

Valve wait for LANs to be over to push patches. See nanyang for the last instance.

 

[twobear]

why don't they just stagger the current tournament version behind the current release version............

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Like I said, patch won't be in 2015.

Enjoy your couriers and sick compendiums until then.

 

[DrPizza]

right after reading this post I randomed bloodseeker:

also note the doom with another AC, roughly 5-6 minutes after i bought mine

Against a Slardar and a deso TA, I think the Doom can legitimately claim to need both the Shiva and the AC himself. He certainly can't rely on being near Bloodseeker all the time, given the movement speed discrepancy.

 

[Shuggananas]

Against a Slardar and a deso TA, I think the Doom can legitimately claim to need both the Shiva and the AC himself. He certainly can't rely on being near Bloodseeker all the time, given the movement speed discrepancy.

vlads + blink would have been better

 

[Pratfall]

yep, feeling like a blog post explaining delays next week, pushed until after the holidays

 

[StrongArmSteady]

I'm back from playing LoL, didn't realise how many champions Dota took from that game.

check yourself before you wreck yourself

 

[yarden24]

Against a Slardar and a deso TA, I think the Doom can legitimately claim to need both the Shiva and the AC himself. He certainly can't rely on being near Bloodseeker all the time, given the movement speed discrepancy.

is the AC sans aura more beneficial then lets say , a vlads+solar crest/lotus orb?

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

yep, feeling like a blog post explaining delays next week, pushed until after the holidays

Maybe it's just me but I think it's been a long time since players have been this bored with the game, I don't know if they can afford to keep delaying the good stuff since 6.85 was essentially a delay itself. The game hasn't really changed since pre-TI.

 

[Shuggananas]

Makes no fucking sense delaying 6.86

 

[twobear]

Makes no fucking sense delaying 6.86

yeah but think about the company ur talking about here

 

[Twookie]

i give it 2 weeks max or i uninstall

 

[Shuggananas]

Teasing starts 14/12, star wars on 16/12, patch deployed 17/12

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

What adult like star wars lmao

 

[Shuggananas]

dude you have a nintendo avatar xd

 

[kionedrik]

What adult like star wars lmao

I know a lot of adults that do. I never jumped on that train myself.

Although the first films were technical prowesses and a mark on cinema history they are extremely overrated imho.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Someone's upset their lightsaber didn't come with batteries. mdr

 

[TUSR]

haha

 

[Auteezy]

No patch can save this game from what's killing it.