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Dota 2 |OT13| 6.86, our Pit Lord and savior
- Thread starter Hylian7
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jesus fucking christ, someone on my team screams for a push lineup to complete his quest and ofcourse we lose because our team sucks and he has no idea how to pick a good lineup. How hard is it to play fucking unranked if you want to do your quests. You dont even need a push lineup to end the game in 35 mins, but nah better get one without disables.
Heavy's Sandvich
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make es's statues move at slower pace.
or the effects are like sleep, as soon as they get hit from right click/damage they're no longer stunned or silenced.
or the effects are like sleep, as soon as they get hit from right click/damage they're no longer stunned or silenced.
Funny thing: even tho I think olives taste like Satan's bhole, for some reason I kind of love olive loaf, which is notorious for being an inedible lunch meat. Also oddly enough, I hate mayonnaise, and the only sandwich I put mayo on is an olive loaf sandwich. I can't explain either of these things.
which is why i'm not suggesting that they make the skills harder to use, i'm suggesting that they simply cut utility from them
Would you just decrease the durations or change them entirely? If you remove the silence on grip what would you replace it with? Maybe a slow but it give back scaling damage?
The other thing you could do is mess with the stones. Make the max number you can carry 3 and boom the hero is a lot worse.
Isn't the 35 minute quest not even on the main routes? I thought that one was a side quest to new bloom
SecretMoblin
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With a hero with that sort of kit you can honestly do a ton... changing the stone speed, number of stones, changing silence/stun duration based on distance (like miranda arrow), have scaling decrease in stun/silence time as it passes through more enemies (like white drow powershot), mess with the roll distance, etc.
or valve could get lazy and mess with movespeed/mana costs/cooldowns, that's usually enough to dumpster a hero for several patches
alternatively, buffing silencer would be enough. buff silencer 2k16
moblin has my vote
Gentle Rodriguez
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Pls don't buff Silencer he's already super strong
Edit: This new Digimon game looks pretty sick actually.
Edit: This new Digimon game looks pretty sick actually.
Monochromaticx
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buff silencer? lol
I don't think that the skill floor or ceiling is the issue with any champion in the game because although playing earth spirit well might be well above the skill level of the average 2-3k player, there are always some people who are going to play a champion over and over until they get very good at it. so having a champion who is high skill but extremely flexible and has a lot of payoff for being high skill isn't really a 'balance', it just means that you're going to end up with a champion, like earth spirit, who is trash in lower skill games but a menace in high skill/pro games.
i mean just look at earth spirit's toolkit; he can stun, silence, disable, move enemy champions out of position, save friendly champions with grip or enchant remnant, initiate...and he can use all of those abilities in all kinds of combinations (enchant remnant on an enemy hero and smash them into their own team to stun them all and damage them, etc.)...AND he has a powerful AOE DOT ult. however you cut it imo this is just too much utility for a single champion.
i mean just look at earth spirit's toolkit; he can stun, silence, disable, move enemy champions out of position, save friendly champions with grip or enchant remnant, initiate...and he can use all of those abilities in all kinds of combinations (enchant remnant on an enemy hero and smash them into their own team to stun them all and damage them, etc.)...AND he has a powerful AOE DOT ult. however you cut it imo this is just too much utility for a single champion.
lv2 pidgey
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SecretMoblin
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But this was the argument about tusk as well, with his ability to lock heroes into place, initiate, disable, save teammates, knock enemies out of position, etc etc
a few tweaks and where is he now?
Earth Fearit is more fun to watch than most shit and overreactions ruin fun... poor lesh tbh
but yes buff silencer and all is well. or just give earth fearit a waifu skin, that would do it too
I don't think so. Lee sin has alot of mobility and utility as well.
Shuggananas
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Lich is like the strongest consistent lane harasser along with swm
I remember someone in this thread saying you could make any hero sound broken if you listed their toolkit in this way. Invoker does a lot of this (except silence), but number changes on his skillset without cutting utility too much seems to be okay for him. Not sour grapes, just making the point that you don't have the remove utility for them to be fine.
That said, I do think ES is harder to balance because he has access to his entire toolkit very quickly, whereas Invoker has to build his up for a while and choose how he wants to spec.
tusk has a powerful toolkit too but imo it's nowhere near as flexible or wide-ranging as earth spirit.
ES is definitely fun to watch tho, that can't be deniedT
Bubbavelli
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Idk why (especially considering his place in the meta) but i really love brewamaster. There's something soothing about blinking in, clapping in the middle of multiple heros, and then busting into a primal split to keep everyone in place while my team cleans up
lv2 pidgey
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also nothing worse than having your brewmaster blink in and die before he can ult because 0.65s cast point
Gentle Rodriguez
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He's not in that bad a place, though he hasn't been picked a lot. I really love him too even though I hate most heroes that require micro, he's one of the "get 6 then start some trouble" heroes.
Cyborgmatt
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Alive gaem.
Alive gaem.
But Matt this doesn't jive with the narrative we've built in our heads
the patch schedule was getting too drawn out imo. 6.84 lasted from april to september which was the last month that showed negative growth...then 6.86 just three months after 6.85, in december...
Captain Fish
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Glad to see player count is going up. Although, damn, that's a lot of users lost in September. Even with all that growth it's just an average net increase of 23,138 for the time period of that chart.
Alive gaem.
The battle pass bump?
I guess not since most of the growth was earlier, damnit.
shira
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SecretMoblin
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league is the elder titan of mobas, wow
and it makes the right people fume
king riot <3
and it makes the right people fume
king riot <3
Vade
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Gentle Rodriguez
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Where'd that info even come from, wasn't it reported by Riot like 5 years ago? Not saying they're lying, just checking.
#winning
Vade
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At least he is not the Forrest Gump of Esports.
What happened in September? Is that when Reborn was forced?Alive gaem.
Shuggananas
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Monochromaticx
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damn thats a good looking gif
yep everybody knows that popularity means quality
spoken like a true little munster
iron talon
shira
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I think most of that is from China and Korea.
Console gaming there is dead as fuck.
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