Sigismundo
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He's my favourite hero and that's just not enough for me. He needs to be the next Poochie except people actually like him.
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Dota 2 |OT2| Ellen Pudge starring in Beyond Two Throws
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SteveWinwood
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Pugna, undying, skeleton king, omniknight, disraptor, skywrath, and silencer are really good in my opinion and it's crazy to me they aren't currently in the meta as I think there is tons of potential there and people aren't being creative enough to find new things. I understand it shifts (relatively) slowly, but come on teams! Be the force that pushes it along!
Skywrath + ET wombo combo lane.
Just lost a 1 hour 18 minute game, I was PL as pretty much our only hard carry vs Medusa/Slark/Razor.
I could kill them all, but they out rat dota'd the PL and never fought and just split pushed us to death. Man slark is annoying with bkb/leap/ult all the time. 723 last hits that game. At least I broke a record I guess.
I could kill them all, but they out rat dota'd the PL and never fought and just split pushed us to death. Man slark is annoying with bkb/leap/ult all the time. 723 last hits that game. At least I broke a record I guess.
CarbonatedFalcon
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We talk about Disruptor being underrated, but now that I think about it with ET being so hot, he starts to make a lot more sense. Spirit + Shock harass? Lane is lost, don't even try. And glimpse + the thunderdome arena ensures that the ET can punch people after the spirit returns. Not to mention the ult. Barrier, Stomp, Storm and Earth Splitter have a lot of synergy.
Now obviously you won't be running ET mid in this setup. Could work as a dual lane if you're into that, but something like Naga or Lina would compliment really well for an aggressive tri-lane.
Now obviously you won't be running ET mid in this setup. Could work as a dual lane if you're into that, but something like Naga or Lina would compliment really well for an aggressive tri-lane.
i always wanted to max disruptors Q first
Captain Fish
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Leveling Disruptor is a bit tricky for me because I find all his stuff has a lot of use depending on the heroes, but having a high kinetic field and ult is nice.
Skullgirls style Crystal Maiden
Skullgirls style Crystal Maiden
shira
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Dreams-Visions
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speaking of which, I like how CM is like the hot fucking support now.
she was mine first! 3rd most played hero. Like 115 matches with her.
she was mine first! 3rd most played hero. Like 115 matches with her.
shira
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speaking of which, I like how CM is like the hot fucking support now.
she was mine first! 3rd most played hero. Like 115 matches with her.
Call me when she gets an Arcana.
This picture is cute as fuck
bananabread
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Pugna needs to come along and chase OD out of the meta.
Dreams-Visions
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CarbonatedFalcon
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Centaur still broken (or at least ridiculous).
How is this hero not in the meta?
He's pretty much as bad as Timbersaw.
How is this hero not in the meta?
He's pretty much as bad as Timbersaw.
shira
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He doesn't have kawaii fanart.
Pretty much, Pugna's broken as shit guise, and he's not picked holy zzz
Regarding all this Dis Raptor talk, maxing Glimpse is best.
"But Hylian, where do you get damage?"
From your tower or lane partner(s), silly. The kill potential goes way way up with more points in Glimpse as you can bring people back into extremely sticky situations. Think of it like a longer Pudge hook that goes through units and terrain. Does this not sound awesome?
You can take one point on Thunder Strike and one in Kinetic Field early. The only reason for Thunder Strike is to cancel Salves. If your enemy brought no Salves, skip it and get another point in Kinetic Field.
"But Hylian, where do you get damage?"
From your tower or lane partner(s), silly. The kill potential goes way way up with more points in Glimpse as you can bring people back into extremely sticky situations. Think of it like a longer Pudge hook that goes through units and terrain. Does this not sound awesome?
You can take one point on Thunder Strike and one in Kinetic Field early. The only reason for Thunder Strike is to cancel Salves. If your enemy brought no Salves, skip it and get another point in Kinetic Field.
Probably because he needs a blink to do real work, and safe lane farm is better on someone that can achieve good attack speed/damage late game, he would get nothing done in offlane, there are better supports that can harass and have ranged disables, hes a really slow jungler and if mid he cant push the wave without hurting himself or using a lot of his tiny mana pool.
Not to ruin your parade but max glimpse is already a thing on support Disraptors. I'm still waiting on support Skeletorz.
As it should be. I see 90% of pub Dis Raptors maxing Thunder Strike first, as well as people and guides everywhere saying to max Thunder Strike first. The skill really is not that good. Glimpse is where it's at.
woo! bh set DONE. just need to do presentation stuff now, should have it submitted tomorrow night. I'm pumped, this one was FAR more work than any of the others but I'm quite happy with how it came out. It's a bit out there, like most of my stuff, but hopefully some people will like it...
CarbonatedFalcon
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I think glimpse vs. thunderstrike is highly situational. People forget but thunderstrike was buffed recently - guides might not be updated to account for that, especially if the hero isn't getting much play.
I mean I've solo killed an Anti-Mage in lane maxing Q first over glimpse. All his spells are really good honestly.
He probably just needs one more adjustment and you'd see him picked up a lot more frequently. Either indirectly with another BKB nerf, or a buff to him - personally I like making barrier impassable regardless of BKB. You could still blink out of it (if not silenced by storm), maybe get force staffed out, but nothing else. Or possibly make static storm more like doom, silencing abilities and items. An AoE doom might push him to god tier.
I mean I've solo killed an Anti-Mage in lane maxing Q first over glimpse. All his spells are really good honestly.
He probably just needs one more adjustment and you'd see him picked up a lot more frequently. Either indirectly with another BKB nerf, or a buff to him - personally I like making barrier impassable regardless of BKB. You could still blink out of it (if not silenced by storm), maybe get force staffed out, but nothing else. Or possibly make static storm more like doom, silencing abilities and items. An AoE doom might push him to god tier.
Thanks sensei
Sigismundo
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I hope whoever made this realises they have to make one for everyone else.
How's Pokémon Boken?
He just need to be able to glimpse himself, no need to nerf BkB again. That'd make for some nice tricks, like glimpsing yourself if you see you're in danger, or TP yourself to base to recover mana, then glimpse yourself back to lane.
woo! bh set DONE. just need to do presentation stuff now, should have it submitted tomorrow night. I'm pumped, this one was FAR more work than any of the others but I'm quite happy with how it came out. It's a bit out there, like most of my stuff, but hopefully some people will like it...
Can't you give us a sneak peak or a hint at what the "style" looks like? ;-)
CarbonatedFalcon
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I just mentioned BKB since its nerfing seems to be a trend. Self-glimpse (or even just ally glimpse) would be pretty awesome though and could make for some sick plays (and griefing, but you could do worse with what's already available).
Oh and I had my first real Timbersaw game tonight. My only previous one had people DCing no more than 10 minutes in so I never got a chance to properly play him before. Went mid vs. SF and did okay, team crushed the game though winning all the other lanes. Tons of fun and I'm eager to try him again with a different matchup and in a game that wasn't already pretty one-sided before I started roaming.
GordonHalfman
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Thunderstrike does 160/240/320/400 damage for 130 mana. It's really good harass at level 2 even. It also gives vision for 4 seconds so you definitely don't want to skip it altogether. If you're mainly going to be fighting in the lane then I haven't found a 1400 range glimpse all that necessary, it can be good for ganking mid though. I think it depends on the lane anyway.
Obviously you don't want to leave glimpse too late, if you're a pub support who can get reasonable levels it's maybe not that big a deal, but I guess it's more of an issue in competitive. Disruptor seems like he's in that spot with Dazzle, Witch Doctor and Warlock where they need levels too badly to be a tri-lane support but aren't a top tier mid either.
Obviously you don't want to leave glimpse too late, if you're a pub support who can get reasonable levels it's maybe not that big a deal, but I guess it's more of an issue in competitive. Disruptor seems like he's in that spot with Dazzle, Witch Doctor and Warlock where they need levels too badly to be a tri-lane support but aren't a top tier mid either.
did you see the lines for the game
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my problem with disruptor is that glimpse gets SO MUCH out of levels its ridiculous.
Q gets 80 damage per level
W gets +400 range, -10cd and -30 mana?
jesus
Yeah this is so horrible i dunno why i'm putting up with it honestly.
Sigismundo
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No, because I don't actually have the game yet. I won't be able to until at least Wednesday.
At least Big W has it for $44. Maybe.
(also i would ask 'what's your party' but i can guess what one member is from your avatar)
Also I love maxing out Glimpse for the sheer shenanigans it provides. There is something to be said about maxing out Thunder Strike in aggressive tris though.
SteveWinwood
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putting up with what
Jesus obviously.
This terrible game with terrible scaling skills.
Should probably stop playing
Monochromaticx
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Shouldn't the title of the thread have a 2 after OT? like:
Dota 2 |OT2| Ellen Pudge starring in Beyond Two Throws ??
Dota 2 |OT2| Ellen Pudge starring in Beyond Two Throws ??
But then i couldn't stop complaining about it! Playing this thing is the only thing that keep me from hating it.
Captain Fish
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shira
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GordonHalfman
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Sheever doing the A-Z thing:
http://www.twitch.tv/sheevergaming
Currently jungling level 1 bat without firefly. I'm not sure if I want to watch.
http://www.twitch.tv/sheevergaming
Currently jungling level 1 bat without firefly. I'm not sure if I want to watch.
Watch this get fixed A.S.A.P. ;-)
The Technomancer
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Honestly I tend to just max Glimpse and Thundershock first and only get two levels in Kinetic Barrier.
Captain Fish
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I dunno if you're in a tri or even a dual lane and you can get extra auto attacks from a barrier, that's worth way more than 60 damage over 4 seconds with another level of thundershock. And then you have more guaranteed ult silence and damage.
Sgt.Pepper
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Because there are better supports against multiple enemies, I haven't seen many pro games with roaming heroes (which is why Sand King did so bad in TI3), very low mana.
BY THE WAY, anyone knows the website that had a "tier list" of the heroes in TI3, it is not the gosugamers one, it had heroes that rose in the meta and had Troll, ET and so on "not on captain's mode".
shira
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pffft valve time
FlutterPuffs
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Not sure how Disruptor is for pro level battles but Disruptor and Jakiro is fucking awesome in normal MM.
Using Glimpse on an enemy who just tp'ed to a tower and sending him back to base is probably one of the best things to do in Dota 2 ever.
Edit: Man I haven't played Dota in a while. Only play it now when this one cute girl does so. Problem is she's all the way in the UK so I get like 300ms lag.
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