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balladofwindfishes
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well hopefully that doesn't go on too long, I have items for pretty much all the heroes I play that have items, need Jakiro and Venomancer items pls
Pureauthor
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Manta isn't that good an item unless your inherent skillset has something that benefits the illusions as well.
Look at the most common Manta Carriers: AM Illusions get his Mana Burn. Medusa gets Split Shot on her Illusions. Chaos Knight has Reality Rift that works with all illusions in a radius. Phantom Lancer's Manta Illusions can also Juxtapose to keep spawning.
wakajawaka
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It's also very good to disjoint some stuns and dust. So it's cool in invis heroes and for NP rat doto.
btw I want women for my hats ;_;
SteveWinwood
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manta on np might just be next level enough to work
Keylime
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I don't really see it. It's not like NP's pushing power needs a whole lot of help. Build a Maelstrom/Mjollnir on him and you melt creeps, plus you naturally have your treants that you leave behind to keep the momentum of the lane in your favor.
Using Manta to purge off dust doesn't help you...because if you've used Shadow Blade it's not like you can just re-use it after you manta.
You'd have to build Shadow Blade > Manta > Refresher to pull off a blade > manta > blade combo to properly escape after an attempted gank.
? It's not really for that, it's just giving you more push while keeping decent enough MS. It's not a rare pickup, especially as a boot replacement item since it give much more damage and comparable ms to treads, plus the ability to push faster with your illusion for maximum scumbag effect.
Trying to trade for a 5 use artificer hammer on Dota 2 Lounge is a lesson in futility... Everybody and their scammer ass grandmother is using up 4 of the charges and trading away the final charge like its a full hammer.
Keylime
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I was more referencing the "next level" reference, assuming it was in reply to the post above it stating that you can purge off dust.
In general, I wouldn't think a Manta would be better than a Maelstrom for pure pushing power...but does come with the added benefit of more push sustain after you leave the lane.
wakajawaka
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You don't need to get a refresher for it to work. It just gves an extra escape mecanism and extra push as said. You can use it to avoid a stun then tp, or to purge dust/track/etc.
Yeah its not uncommon, I think I first saw it on Bamboe but probably older than the sun.
Yeah its not uncommon, I think I first saw it on Bamboe but probably older than the sun.
I H8 Memes
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Dont forget my girl Luna. Moon Glaives everywhere!
SteveWinwood
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Oh fuck no, I wouldn't buy a manta simply to purge off dust.
I just think it would be funny to have a nature's prophet in each lane pushing all at once.
I've never done it, I think it would be fun.
Absolutely the right move. Glad to hear Valve changed their stance on this.
Keylime
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Very situational item pickup.
Not all stuns are disjointable, if you're using it to dodge a stun they're on you already with quite possibly enough DPS to burn you down before you can get a TP off again. Getting Track off, sure. Helps with pushing, sure.
Just can't see a super strong case to recommend getting it over the more standard Maelstrom for most scenarios.
Also...DatDota shows that pros hardly ever use it (bought less than 2% of the time) and it's bought as a 5th item on average with a average build time of 42 minutes.
balladofwindfishes
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well... there are heroes like Gyro and Venomancer that were remade already and could just as easily be made compatible with cosmetics because they probably won't be changed again.
Unless the remakes are all done before the end of the year, people are going to grow bored of the same 20 heroes getting items. You only have so many item slots, and honestly heroes like Meepo and Medusa who are broken down probably don't even factor into most people's purchases.
Pureauthor
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For fucks sake Valve what the hell is wrong with your servers
Seriously, they can take Diretide back if it will end their server ruination.
manfestival
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NO! DONT SAY THAT!
balladofwindfishes
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So PlayDota is down for a week long extensive maintenance. There's been some speculation it might be converted into a more Dota 2 oriented website and resource, but who really knows at this point.
SteveWinwood
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why did valve kill dota
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Played a game or two with PA, so in one game i am carrying against timber and tiny. timbersaw is to fucking tanky to kill and tiny stuns me with each attack. So timbersaw and tiny counters PA ;_; why can't i go back to shit matchmaking so I can have fun
A week of maintenance, jesus. I want to say something is up, but its not.
Pureauthor
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TI3 MVP represent
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Plz nerf
I've been practising with him, because I know he's a hero I'll like (/maybe be good with). I need to watch you play though and some good players. I always struggle to figure out the best way to start fights, and a good 'rotation' of skills. He has so many options I never know if I used the right one. Also item/skill builds I have no idea either. Got anything you like milk?
Hero is super fun though.
I honestly think in good hands he's overpowered, but man he's really fun to play.
The original Obsidian Destroyer / Kunka
4 years in pro scene and still up there with the best of them
Who made this? Why use white text here ugh.
Item builds, I'm still super-experimental with what to go on him. Seems like BKB is good, along with other utility items like Force Staff and Shivas. Not quite sure yet though.
Skill wise, I'm pretty comfortable with the e/w/q/q/q/r/q/w/w/w/r build. Gives you a lot of killing power early and maxes both of your disables for the midgame. I'm still trying to get comfortable with all his options, it's hard to remember you can pull/push teammates, push enemies, push/pull rocks, etc. Really, really fun though.
Well you could always ask that guy's RL friend to scrim and then let us know and dota-gaf will pound his nipples in.
Dudes we need some names here. Get more real.
GUIDOS always ready to kick some evildoers with no muscles. If they're big then well, no luck sorry..
PillowKnight
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Fuck no, leave weaver alone.
wat
CarbonatedFalcon
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Truth fact. If you're a right clicker vs. a Tiny you NEED a BKB.
shira
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Pro cosplay is pro http://milligan-vick.tumblr.com/ NSFW art
Mutation of Shallows by dotafx
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=198343554
I like the big conch, but then it has fork spikes, oh well
Bastard Wyrm Shield by mango and toiraw
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=197507829
Best in class for shields
Btw, now that we have had the tourney, how about more formal scrims every so often? Inhouses are fun but they are more about randoming and being slightly crazy for laughs. I know I at least really enjoyed the more serious competitive nature of the tourney so having matches like that on a semi-regular basis would be cool. Mid-tier scrimming. We have teams now so we could just stick to them.
Fuck this i'm making a team of only tanned and muscular dudes.
More seriously SamVimes has already a team and he plays with them most of the time so i don't think it would be much viable.
It's definitely one of the side effects of the tournament. It's kinda cool to get a little insight to the groups and players in GAF. Add some of them to your friends list if you haven't already and ask them if they want to scrim!
you can scrim me too, bring it on
we had this, it was called ihl, but then ppl qq about losing and balance and teams and want to go back to regular IH. it's the circle of dota life
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