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As the old football chant goes - "you only sing when you're winning".
Is the Dota 2 Network just gone forever now? I really liked Dota and I'm sad that I will never get to play it again.
been working fine for me
I agree with everything you said except the piece on rune control. As a mid he actually has pretty strong rune control as you can pre-run the bear to a rune spot and then Return it back to lane and run it to the other spot should you guess wrong.
Generally pre-running is a bad idea since you lose valuable gold and xp but its great when you get to stay in lane and still pre-run.
I keep getting "searching for Dota 2 Network" and then when it finally connects, it disconnects and tries to reconnect. Also the API has been unavailable on Dotabuff all day and the betting bots on Dota 2 Lounge are broken as well as my profile/inventory are unavailable.
Wok
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This rating system is crap. Here is an example.
The matches:
The ranking:
Not racist or senile enough yet.
That site gave me 583, says I'm copper. Take that Gzzz.
Says I'm in the top 90%, which is what dota buff gave me when it's rating system was up. System may work decently with a sizable sample size, but the "top x%" seems off, ether it is just getting more a lot more data, or displaying it backwards and it is trying to say I am in bottom 10%.
Edit: yeah, it's saying I am bottom 10%, I'm just bad at reading it. I may not be that good for the time I put in, but I am pretty sure that is to low.
Says I'm in the top 90%, which is what dota buff gave me when it's rating system was up. System may work decently with a sizable sample size, but the "top x%" seems off, ether it is just getting more a lot more data, or displaying it backwards and it is trying to say I am in bottom 10%.
Edit: yeah, it's saying I am bottom 10%, I'm just bad at reading it. I may not be that good for the time I put in, but I am pretty sure that is to low.
Schweinehund
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I'm in position 32. I should know my score by next weekend.
Shorty11857
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Fnatic aren't looking as strong as yesterday at all
4 of Na'vi pretty much have the same net worth
4 of Na'vi pretty much have the same net worth
Its saying your in the bottom 10.
Like if it said your in the Top 10%, you would assume your in the best 10%.
there's a slight (if not huge) adverse selection problem yeah, im sure there's way more bad players who havent deactivated the privacy thing/looked up their dsr, so you're gonna be in in a worse percentile than you are in for real
one guy i know probably has a top 100 rating, and he's still not top 0.1%, so yeah
one guy i know probably has a top 100 rating, and he's still not top 0.1%, so yeah
shira
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The Technomancer
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As fun as its been I'm fully expecting some kind of nerf to Midas in 6.80
CarbonatedFalcon
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Puppey bringing back the CARRY MAIDEN.
Wonder what will happen
Total removal or rebalanced so the farm needed to recoup its cost goes from 8 minutes to 20
And it's an opt-in system, judging by the queue I'm in. Assuming their metrics are any good, they have some gargantuan holes in their data.
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I think this would be fair, seems like in pro games theres no real downside to getting midas on everyone unless the pros are just deciding not to punish it? but you cant expect a team to push heavily when they see midas which could easily throw the game
Yeah something needs to be done with it because the Midas meta is super boring.
Shorty11857
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I think the gold you get from Midas is a bit overstated, I mean sure it's 190 gold every 100 seconds so in theory it takes 16-17 minutes to recoup the cost but you have to take into account killing that creep without Midas would still give you gold so it's not really 190 bonus gold
I think the XP part of it is what makes it so strong
Heavy's Sandvich
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I asked if midas needed changing a couple of weeks ago and got laughed at.
It should break after a certain number of uses.
It should break after a certain number of uses.
I'm sure they will nerf it. Their mission for items has always seemed to be to limit the number of heroes a given item is viable for. That is the reason why they nerfed Shadow Blade; too many heroes were picking it up and that was not intended. I think the same reasoning will be used for Midas, I mean when everyone on a team is picking up the same item, something is wrong.
Maybe add some stat penalty to it? Reduced armor or reduced movement speed or something? Or just have it break after a certain amount of uses.
SteveWinwood
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midas dont need no nerfing
CarbonatedFalcon
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Saw Anuxi in the crowd there when they panned over the guy with the Midas gaming sign!
There's a fine line where something is just good or balanced enough to be "in the meta" to "nerfed to the point where no one ever gets or plays it anymore."
GordonHalfman
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I don't get the midas thing at all. Are we even sure it's actually helping? It's kind of hard to judge, "the team with the most midas's won" isn't really any more helpful than it would be for any other item. They seem to be getting it on heroes that are pretty item independent, which kind of makes a paradoxical kind of sense, since midas delaying your mid game items has less impact than it would do for a carry. So it's unlikely to stand out as being blatantly obvious that your CM having a midas instead of something like a force staff is actually losing you fights, but I'm not it won't be sometimes.
Going midas on Enigma like Fanatic did makes no sense to me though. If you consider his core items to be blink + bkb, then if the Enigma can farm at something around 300 gpm this would take around 20 mins to get. Going midas first takes around 6 minutes, after which your gpm is increased to 400 or so, taking another 15 mins to get your items which means 21 minutes in total. So you're delaying your blink just to get blink+bkb at around the same time, and then I suppose you can get some luxuries like necro 3 or hex faster that you would but the fights that decide the game might have happened by then. Are my numbers way off here?
Going midas on Enigma like Fanatic did makes no sense to me though. If you consider his core items to be blink + bkb, then if the Enigma can farm at something around 300 gpm this would take around 20 mins to get. Going midas first takes around 6 minutes, after which your gpm is increased to 400 or so, taking another 15 mins to get your items which means 21 minutes in total. So you're delaying your blink just to get blink+bkb at around the same time, and then I suppose you can get some luxuries like necro 3 or hex faster that you would but the fights that decide the game might have happened by then. Are my numbers way off here?
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