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shira
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Nah SPGINT hitting their stride #invitedtoTI4
So, League of Legends is going to add in a new queuing option, "Team Builder", which is basically a Role Queue, so players can select what role they want to play before the queue. I think the playerbase will like it.
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345
Thoughs? And maybe I should just make a general "Moba" community topic, I like talking about what other games are trying.
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13575345
Thoughs? And maybe I should just make a general "Moba" community topic, I like talking about what other games are trying.
I thought about it before, the thing is it might be hard to balance in dota 2 ( maybe in LoL too, I really don't know much about it's meta ) it's not like there is always a jungler, or a 1/1/3 or a 2/1/2. But that's definitly something which should be worked on ( there is many option, like people choosing what kind of setup they want, before choosing what role they want to play ).
Speaking of queuing option I want a AP without being able to random a hero.
Shorty11857
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Valve pretty much pick the top 7 teams from the West (With 2 US teams usualy) and top 7 from the East, Any team who consistently comes top 4 in tournaments in Europe over the next six months would be pretty much guaranteed an invite.
I'd doubt they'd put much into Starladder 7, too early in the season. Starladder 8 and 9 will probably happen before the invites go out anyway
Could work in Dota but roles are less defined, for example if someone searches for offlane they'd need to be matched with a team willing to tri-lane or jungle. I'd imagine it works a bit better in LoL since roles and lanes are more static
I like the idea behind it a lot, it's actually the one thing that Strife had that I was excited for, but... guess they don't have that going for them anymore. doh.
This is also probably my main concern about future/upcoming MOBA's. Any good ideas are most likely going to be immediately poached by either LoL or Dota (though most likely LoL), which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I think it will make it harder for new games to compete unless they are pretty drastically different. Running Dev cycles on games like this means pretty much any change can be patched in or added to the games at any time, which is cool, but again, kinda shitty for people trying to compete. I hope I'm wrong, though.
Gotta enforce dat meta
Pretty much, it's not a bad idea but that sort of features forces a game to be played in a certain way.
Post-championship beerflab. As must be.
For LoL, I'm pretty sure the laning setup is no longer just the Meta, its part of the core design philosophy, and that Riot tries to crush any strategy that does't follow it.
While some employees of Riot claim not to enforce the meta, their balancing says otherwise.
Actually if you are a team leader you can plan/use any strategy, not only the current meta. Double jungle, no jungle, strange things anywhere are legit. You just need to find someone who wants to play it. The team builder queue is static. Riot explained this in their thread on the matter.
I don't think this queue would work as well for Dota due to the heavy reliance of counter-picks. Also, this is only for blind pick.
Well I do would like a CM-like queue where there is no captain, just each player can pick & ban 1 hero.
I don't have something against all pick in itself ( no hero banned, no turn ) but I hate the gold advantage random can give to a team & the fact you always endup with That teammate who random, then repick without even asking if someone want to swap, so now your team already begin with less gold the the ennemy team.
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Guys, I've been playing this game for the last weeks non-stop it's great (my first moba), and one thing that has stuck in my head is how brazilians have like a fetish or something with sniper, almost every other game there is a brazilian playing with him, first thing they do when the games starts: "br?" and is always that fucking sniper, is uncanny...
Edit: Maybe I have to get out of the trench
Edit: Maybe I have to get out of the trench
Technosteve
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Dying because it's fucking true.
For those wondering the results of the Medusa game where I had to cut the stream off due to my internet being crappy: http://dotabuff.com/matches/346571252
Hopefully my internet behaves and I can actually stream later.
Hopefully my internet behaves and I can actually stream later.
shira
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The best is dog barking in the background, it made it seem like the dog was playing since we would ask a question and all we would hear is [woof woof]
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All of it truth, so now you can imagine my pain being in LA I get queued with them more than any human should, but it least I can comunicate with them, I'm still somewhat shit at this game ("only" 40hr) but it's amazing how shitty are the players from here, it's unbelievable, they do not even try...
Have fun, REALLY awesome movie.
The invoker cheats alone are worth about $.15 on the market each, all 3 are worth a decent amount. How many chests was it?
Edit: Invoker cheats go for $.50 each, other two are $.15 each now.
Fuck! There were roughly 12 of each. Oh well, I'm not that upset about it.
Could of had like $7 man! $7!
Or I could delete the uncommons I don't want and potentially get rares, which could end up being more than $7.
Doesn't work anymore.
Tried selling something on the marketplace, got this error message:
"You are not allowed to sell this item. The Community Market might be temporarily disabled or your account might be restricted from using the Community Market."
Is there any way to resolve this? I can't think of any reason my account would be restricted and I never received any notice of that.
"You are not allowed to sell this item. The Community Market might be temporarily disabled or your account might be restricted from using the Community Market."
Is there any way to resolve this? I can't think of any reason my account would be restricted and I never received any notice of that.
Restart Steam or use the web version.
Wait...what? When did they remove that?
CarbonatedFalcon
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Crafting yo
And I thought it was just for that item, didn't know it got disabled completely. And I tried to sign up for the Perfect World account to do that whole thing, but it never sent me an email so I just gave up. Oh well.
The Technomancer
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Good lord All Pick really is the worst mode. Big surprise we lost to a team with Spirit Breaker and Troll Warlord, neither of which we knew we were going to face until we had made most of our picks
Haunted
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I wonder why I can't sell some items on the market (got a rare Ogre Magi club last night). I thought they opened all the items up to be marketable.
Random Draft (when solo) or Captains Draft (when in a stack) all the way.
I'd like something like an "All Draft" mode. Whole pool available, every player picks his own hero like in random draft + is allowed to be an enemy hero.
I've removed all pick from my search a while ago.
Random Draft (when solo) or Captains Draft (when in a stack) all the way.
I'd like something like an "All Draft" mode. Whole pool available, every player picks his own hero like in random draft + is allowed to be an enemy hero.
Cyborgmatt
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Forced metas? No thanks.
My thoughts exactly.
hi
kirby didnt read the whole article, but people should read the articles rather than take the neogaf posts on face value
but you basically queue as "mid laner" "offlaner" "jungler" "trilane support" "carry" "duo lane support"
or alternatively the system can use 1,2,3,4,5
or even -
1.2 Lane Support
1.3 Carry
1.4 Disabler
1.5 Ganker
1.6 Nuker
1.7 Initiator
1.8 Jungler
1.9 Pusher
1.10 Roamer
1.11 Durable
and a captain is selected and builds a team using the players that are currently in the global queue
the sole design requirement is that the queue selection needs to be flexible enough or fluid enough that the captain can pick the meta, and thats all you need.
you are all glossing over the fact the captain position + good design is a clever way to "not enforce the meta"
Ehh.. I started playing Captian draft with a group of players I met on All Pick MM, I dont like it, I like to get my own picks/pick any hero/pick 10 seconds before the creepwave spawns.
But it clearly says it isn't forcing the meta, would riot lie?
hi
you didnt actually read the whole article, and people should read the articles rather than take the neogaf posts on face value
but you basically queue as "mid laner" "offlaner" "jungler" "trilane support" "carry" "duo lane support"
or alternatively the system can use 1,2,3,4,5
or even -
1.2 Lane Support
1.3 Carry
1.4 Disabler
1.5 Ganker
1.6 Nuker
1.7 Initiator
1.8 Jungler
1.9 Pusher
1.10 Roamer
1.11 Durable
and a captain is selected and builds a team using the players that are currently in the global queue
the sole design requirement is that the queue selection needs to be flexible enough or fluid enough that the captain can pick the meta, and thats all you need.
you are all glossing over the fact the captain position + good design is a clever way to "not enforce the meta"
Pretty much.
Part of the reason I love modes like All Random is you try to build interesting and new strategies out of what you are given. Same thing goes for single draft. Sure, you can get screwed over, but even then you try to make the best of it, and there are many times I've pulled out a win because we did the right strategy with what we had.
Captain Fish
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The person who made Dreams-Visions' Drow avatar has been reworking their stuff. Some of the noses look a bit weird, but some of the designs look pretty good.
New Drow:
New Drow:
hey look at this circle jerk still going on
also a case of HEY LOOK ITS CYBORG MATT I BETTER REPLY TO HIM smh
It can easily be made into something actually pretty free. People choose their role, and select one ( or even better, multiple ) team composition(s) ( with ancient/jungle/hardlane/easylane/mid ( say with a support/carry/either variant for each )).
It actually wouldn't stop anyone from choosing a 5 jungle compo ( but enjoy the 2 month wait to find 4 other people who also wish to do that ).
Not saying it would cover every possible thing you would come up with in a 5 man premade in other more 'free' game mods, but it really could be far less restricted than most people seems to think. Even restricted I don't really see how it's bad to have more options, people could very well say "what ? all random ? Forced chaos ? no thanks".
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