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Dota 2 |OT2| Ellen Pudge starring in Beyond Two Throws

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Since the site is down, here's the changelog:
Since the site is down, here's the changelog:

6.79 Gameplay Update

GENERAL

* Buyback prevents gaining unreliable gold (creeps, neutrals, etc) until your normal respawn time finishes
* When buying back, 25% of the remaining respawn time will be added to your next death

* Creeps now meet a bit closer to the tower in your offlane
* Ranged Heroes now get the same denied experience as melee heroes (instead of less)
* XP AoE increased from 1200 to 1300

* Non-Ancient Neutrals now split XP with all heroes in the AoE instead of just the team that killed them
* Swapped the medium pullable Neutral Camp with the small camp
* A neutral creeps camp will no longer spawn the same set of neutral creeps twice in a row
* Small reduction to the pull timing duration of the mid Radiant and mid-top Dire camp
* Satyr Mindstealer XP bounty reduced from 88 to 62
* Satyr Tormentor XP bounty reduced from 155 to 119
* Mud Golems XP bounty reduced from 119 to 88
* Mud Golems armor reduced from 4 to 2
* Dark Troll Summoner bounty XP reduced from 155 to 119
* Hellbear Smasher HP reduced from 1100 to 950
* Hellbear armor reduced from 5 to 3
* Satyr Trickster's Purge cast point improved from 0.5 to 0.2
* Dragon Ancient Neutral Camp now have flying movement capability
* Fixed Neutral Envenomed Weapons debuff dispelling regen items

* Day/Night length decreased from 6 to 4 minutes
* The following heroes now have the standard 800 night vision: Drow Ranger, Mirana, Puck, Leshrac, Enchantress, Ancient Apparition, Meepo and Treant Protector

* Roshan will respawn at a random time between 8 and 11 minutes after death
* When Aegis expires unused, it heals the hero fully over 5 seconds (regen dispels on damage from players or buildings)

* Starting gold increased from 603 to 625
* Random Gold bonus reduced by 50
* Gold for ending a spree changed from 75->600 (3x->10x) to 125->1000
* Your gold income is now 1 per 0.6 seconds, up from 1 per 0.8 seconds

* Tower last hit bonus gold increased from 100-200 to 150-250
* Melee Barracks HP regen increased from 2.5 to 5
* Ranged Barracks HP regen decreased from 2.5 to 0
* Ranged Barracks HP reduced from 1500 to 1200 and armor increased from 5 to 10 (same EHP vs physical damage)

* Evasion now stacks diminishingly
* Can no longer orb-attack while attack restricted (such as Ethereal or Frostbite)
* The following abilities no longer automatically ignore backswing time by default: Rupture, Malefice, Venomous Gale, Stifling Dagger, Flamebreak, Wave of Terror, Shadow Word and Power Cogs




HEROES

Abaddon
- Base armor reduced by 1
- Myst Coil self damage increased from 50/75/100/125 to 75/100/125/150
- Aphotic Shield is now dispellable
- Borrowed Time no longer activates while Doomed

Alchemist
- Chemical Rage no longer provides 250/500/750 bonus HP
- Chemical Rage HP regen increased from 15/30/60 to 50/75/100

Ancient Apparition
- Ice Vortex cooldown reduced from 5 to 4
- Ice Blast cooldown reduced from 45 to 40
- The Chilling Touch buff is now always applied to Ancient Apparition even if he is not within the target area
- Chilling Touch cooldown reduced from 50/46/42/38 to 50/42/34/26

Axe
- Berserker's Call AoE increased from 275 to 300
- Battle Hunger duration reduced from 10/13/16/19 to 10/12/14/16
- Battle Hunger damage reduced from 15/21/27/33 to 15/20/25/30
- Battle Hunger movement speed slow/bonus increased from 8% to 10%
- Battle Hunger is now dispellable
- Counter Helix cooldown reduced from 0.55/0.5/0.45/0.4 to 0.45/0.4/0.35/0.3
- Counter Helix now hits siege units
- Culling Blade no longer goes on cooldown if it successfully kills a hero
- Culling Blade threshold reduced from 300/450/625 to 250/350/450 (Aghanim upgraded version is still 300/450/625)
- Culling Blade speed bonus increased from 25% to 40% and AoE from 600 to 900
- Culling Blade 40% speed bonus now applies to attack speed as well
- Culling Blade Aghanim allied buff duration increased from 6 to 10
- Culling Blade manacost reduced from 150/200/250 to 60/120/180

Batrider
- Base damage reduced from 48-52 to 38-42
- Vision reduced from 1400 to 1200
- Flaming Lasso cast range reduced from 175 to 100

Beastmaster
- Inner Beast AoE reduced from 1000 to 900 (standard aura AoE)
- Inner Beast attack speed rescaled from 18/26/32/40 to 15/25/35/45
- Call of the Wild now has two abilities for summoning each unit independently
- Call of the Wild manacost reduced from 25 to 15 and cast point improved from 0.5 to 0.3

Bloodseeker
- Base movement speed reduced from 305 to 300
- Thirst is now global instead of 6000 range
- Thirst bonus now stacks for each unit that is low HP
- Thirst HP threshold increased from 20/30/40/50% to 50%
- Thirst movement speed bonus reduced from 15/25/35/45% to 7/14/21/28%
- When Thirst is active, movement speed cap is removed on your hero
- Thirst no longer provides armor bonus
- Thirst provides bonus 7/14/21/28 damage
- Thirst no longer grants full hero vision around low HP targets, it only shows their model
- Thirst no longer lasts for an extra 3 seconds when the target is dead

Brewmaster
- Base agility increased from 16 to 22
- Drunken Haze affects a 200 AoE around the target
- Thunder Clap is now dispellable
- Primal Split selection order is now Earth/Storm/Fire
- Reworked Primal Split Aghanim upgrade.
Spoiler:


Bristleback
- Attack point improved from 0.4 to 0.3
- Viscous Nasal Goo is now dispellable
- Viscous Nasal Goo cast point improved from 0.4 to 0.3
- Warpath max stacks increased from 5 to 5/6/7
- Warpath stack duration increased from 10 to 14

Broodmother
- Spin Web AoE increased from 650 to 900
- Spin Web cast range increased from 600 to 1000
- Spin Web cast point nerfed from 0.2 to 0.4
- Spin Web no longer destroys trees
- Broodmother now has completely unobstructed movement when under the web (can walk over cliffs, trees, etc)
- Removed buffer time when leaving Spin Web (you now immediately lose your regen/movement/pathing/invis bonuses)

Centaur Warrunner
- Stampede slow duration increased from 1.25 seconds to 1.5

Chaos Knight
- Chaos Bolt damage and stun values are now inversely related

Chen
- Test of Faith teleport is now dispellable
- Hand of God cooldown increased from 140/130/120 to 160/140/120

Clinkz
- Searing Arrows damage increased from 20/30/40/50 to 30/40/50/60
- Searing Arrows manacost increased from 8 to 10
- Searing Arrows is no longer blocked by magic immunity

Clockwerk
- Units knocked back by Power Cogs destroy trees in 100 AoE around where they land

Crystal Maiden
- Freezing Field AS/MS AoE slow increased from -20/-30 to -30/-30
- Freezing Field Scepter AS/MS AoE slow increased from -50/-30 to -50/-50

Dark Seer
- Vacuum cooldown increased from 24 to 28

Dazzle
- Weave duration rescaled from 12/18/24 to 20
- Weave armor per second rescaled from 1 to 0.75/1/1.25 (scepter is 1/1.25/1.5)
- Poison Touch damage increased from 8/16/24/32 to 14/20/26/32 (7 seconds worth)
- Poison Touch is now dodgeable
- Poison Touch slow timings reworked
Spoiler:


Death Prophet
- Exorcism Spirit damage increased from 43-48 to 53-58

Disruptor
- Kinetic Field AoE increased from 300 to 325
- Glimpse cooldown reduced from 60/50/40/30 to 65/50/35/20
- Static Storm AoE increased from 375 to 450
- Static Storm max damage increased from 170/220/270 to 200/250/300
- Added Aghanim's upgrade: Static Storm silences items, and lasts an extra 2 seconds

Doom
- Doom cooldown reduced from 110 to 100
- Doom now removes positive buffs on the target before applying the debuff
- Doom Aghanim AoE requirement increased from 550 to 900
Spoiler:


Drow Ranger
- Precision Aura damage ratio increased from 16/20/24/28% to 18/24/30/36%
- Precision Aura no longer affects creeps
- Precision Aura can now be manually casted to affect creeps globally for 30 seconds (120 cd)
- Marksmanship attribute negation AoE increased from 375 to 400

Earthshaker
- Enchant Totem damage increased from 75/150/225/300% to 100/200/300/400%
- Fissure range increased by 100

Elder Titan
- Ancestral Spirit damage reduced from 120/160/200/240 to 80/120/160/200

Enigma
- Midnight Pulse dps increased from 3/4/5/6% to 4/5/6/7%
- Added Aghanim's upgrade: Adds Midnight Pulse damage to your Black Hole. This damage stacks with Midnight Pulse.

Enchantress
- Untouchable attack speed slow increased from 20/50/80/110 to 30/60/90/120

Faceless Void
- Timewalk slow rescaled from 25/30/35/40% to 20/30/40/50%
- Chronosphere AoE increased from 400 to 450

Huskar
- Agility reduced from 20 + 2.4 to 15 + 1.4
- Berserker's Blood is now disabled by Doom

Invoker
- EMP restores Invoker for 50% of the mana it drains from heroes (excluding illusions)
- Invoke Max Spells rescaled from 1/2/2/2 to 2

Io
- Tether now does a -100% MS/AS slow instead of a stun

Jakiro
- Liquid Fire is now a castable Attack Orb (same cooldown, no mana cost)

Juggernaut
- Healing Ward movement speed increased from 300 to 450
- Omnislash Scepter cooldown reduced from 110/100/90 to 70
- Omnislash no longer stops if the target is Ethereal (it still doesn't do damage)
- Fixed not being able to use items during Omnislash

Keeper of the Light
- Blinding Light now destroys trees in a 150 AoE around where the target is pushed

Kunkka
- X Marks The Spot cooldown reduced from 16 to 13
- Ghost Ship damage increased from 350/450/550 to 400/500/600

Leshrac
- Diabolic Edict cast point improved from 0.7 to 0.5
- Pulse Nova scepter damage increased from 88/133/177 to 100/150/200

Lich
- Frost Armor has half effect against ranged heroes
- Frost Armor slow now stacks with the slow from Frost Nova
- Sacrifice cooldown increased from 35/30/25/20 to 44/36/28/20
- Sacrifice mana gain increased from 15/30/45/60% to 25/40/55/70%
- Sacrifice no longer denies enemy XP
- Sacrifice now converts your own creep for XP (shared in AoE as normal creep xp bounty)

Lifestealer
- Rage cooldown increased from 17 to 19
- Open Wounds and Infest cast points increased from 0.01 to 0.2

Lina
- Attack range increased from 635 to 650

Lion
- Mana Drain duration increased from 4 to 5
- Hex cooldown increased from 15 to 30/25/20/15
- Hex duration increased from 1.75/2.5/3.25/4 to 2.5/3/3.5/4

Lone Druid
- Base movement speed increased from 315 to 325 (still 280 in True Form)
- Spirit Bear XP bounty increased from 196 to 300

Luna
- Moon Glaive can now bounce back on the same units if it already hit all other units nearby
- Moon Glaive bounce damage reduced from -30% to -35%
- Eclipse Scepter beam count limit per target removed

Lycanthrope
- Armor increased by 1 (Shapeshift total armor is still the same as before)
- Base damage increased by 5
- Howl bonus damage for non-hero units increased from 4/8/12/16 to 5/10/15/20
- Wolves magic resistance increased from 50% to 80%

Magnus
- Turn rate improved from 0.5 to 0.8

Medusa
- Mystic Snake now does Pure damage to units in Stone Form

Meepo
- Base armor reduced by 1
- Turn rate improved from 0.5 to 0.65
- Earthbind cast point improved from 0.5 to 0.3
- Divided We Stand leveling rebalanced from 6/11/16 to 4/11/18
- Removed 30% stat sharing on non-aghanim Divided We Stand

Mirana
- Leap AoE AS/MS speed bonus is granted at the cast location rather than the destination
- Leap AoE AS bonus increased from 4/8/12/16 to 8/16/24/32

Morphling
- Morph level 4 shift rate improved from 0.25 to 0.2

Naga Siren
- Rip Tide AoE reduced from 450 to 350
- Ensnare manacost increased from 75/85/95/105 to 90/100/110/120

Nature's Prophet
- Treants' XP Bounty increased from 20 to 30
- Treants' Gold Bounty increased from 12-16 to 14-20

Necrolyte
- Base armor increased by 1

Night Stalker
- Darkness causes enemy vision to be reduced by 25% (affects heroes, creeps and wards)

Nyx Assassin
- Spiked Carapace no longer stuns your hero when your summoned units proc it (the summoned units get stunned instead)
- Impale no longer has unit targeting, it is now only a point targeted spell

Ogre Magi
- Ignite duration increased from 4/5/6/7 to 5/6/7/8
- Ignite is now dodgeable
- Ignite can now multicast to cast at a random enemy unit in 1400 AoE (prioritizes ones that do not already have the debuff)
- Unrefined Fireblast cooldown reduced from 10 to 6

Omniknight
- Degen Aura AoE increased from 315 to 350
- Degen Aura stickiness increased from 0.5 seconds to 1.0

Outworld Devourer
- Base damage reduced by 3
- Items no longer trigger Essence Aura

Phantom Assassin
- Stifling Dagger shares the same crit chance/factor as Coup de Grace
- Stifling Dagger is now dodgeable
- Stifling Dagger damage rescaled from 50/100/150/200 to 60/100/140/180

Phantom Lancer
- Spirit Lance is now dodgeable

Pudge
- Can now use Blink Dagger
- If you hook a unit onto an unpathable ledge, the unit gains free pathing for 5 seconds
- Flesh Heap magic resistance reduced from 4/8/12/16% to 6/8/10/12%
- Dismember Scepter strength multiplier increased from 0.75 to 1.0

Pugna
- Decrepify damage amp on allies reduced from 40% to 25%
- Decrepify damage amp on enemies increased from 40% to 50%
- Nether Ward now requires 3 hits to kill instead of 75/150/225/300 HP (heroes hurt it for 1, others for 0.25)
- Life Drain restores mana if it tries to heal you while you are full hp when targeting heroes

Queen of Pain
- Shadow Strike manacost rescaled from 80/100/120/140 to 110

Riki
- Smoke Screen cast range increased from 425 to 550
- Riki is no longer revealed out of Permanent Invisibility when he casts spells or uses items
Spoiler:


Rubick
- Telekinesis cooldown increased from 18 to 22
- Rubick can no longer steal the Aghanim upgrade of the enemy if they have Aghanim and he doesn't
- Added Aghanim's upgrade: reduces cooldown from 20/18/16 to 5, increases cast range from 1000 to 1400 and makes all stolen spells be considered to have their Aghanim's upgrade

Sand King
- Sand Storm dps increased from 20/40/60/80 to 25/50/75/100
- Epicenter attack speed slow is now same as movement speed slow (10%->30%)

Shadow Demon
- Shadow Poison AoE increased from 180 to 190

Shadow Shaman
- Mass Serpent Ward count increased from 8 to 10
- Changed Mass Serpent Ward placement structure

Silencer
- Intelligence Steal is an innate part of the hero rather than an element of Glaives of Wisdom

Skeleton King
- Base Intelligence increased by 5
- Removed Mortal Strike active
- Vampiric Aura now provides full effectiveness on ranged units
- Reincarnation slow increased from 30% to 50%
- Reincarnation slow AoE increased from 700 to 900

Skywrath Mage
- Int growth increased from 3.2 to 3.6
- Added Aghanim's upgrade: reduces Mystic Flare's cooldown from 60/40/20 to 20/10/0

Slardar
- Amplify Damage armor reduction increased from 8/14/20 to 10/15/20
- Sprint speed increased from 20/27/33/40% to 20/28/36/44%
- Sprint manacost removed (was 50)

Slark
- Shadow Dance duration reduced from 5.5 to 4
- Shadow Dance cooldown increased from 25 to 65
- Shadow Dance can no longer be revealed by Truesight

Sniper
- Take Aim attack range bonus increased from 75/150/225/300 to 80/160/240/320

Spectre
- You can now continuously use Reality on your illusions
- Reality cast point improved from 0.3 to 0

Spirit Breaker
- Base attack time nerfed from 1.7 to 1.9
- Greater Bash no longer works while doomed
- Nether Strike now uses 1.2 Cast Time instead of a 1 sec magic immune delay (can be interrupted as a result)

Sven
- Stormbolt cooldown reduced from 15 to 13
- Stormbolt is now dodgeable

Tidehunter
- Kraken Shell damage block increased from 7/14/21/28 to 9/18/27/36

Timbersaw
- Chakram manacost increased from 75/125/175 to 100/150/200

Tiny
- Craggy Exterior chance increased from 6/12/18/24% to 10/15/20/25%
- Craggy Exterior stun duration increased from 1.2 to 1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5


Treant Protector
- Leech Seed damage per pulse reduced from 30/45/60/75 to 24/36/48/60
- Leech Seed number of pulses increased from 4 to 6 (duration from 3 to 4.5)
- Living Armor cooldown rebalanced from 15 to 32/26/20/14
- Living Armor manacost increased from 25 to 50
- Nature's Guise cast point improved from 0.5 to 0.3

Troll Warlord
- Berserker's Rage movespeed bonus rebalanced from 20/20/20/30 to 10/20/30/40
- Whirling Axes (Melee) damage reduced from 125/175/225/275 to 75/125/175/225

Tusk
- Frozen Sigil now requires a constant number of hits (3/3/4/4) instead of 200/220/240/260 HP (heroes hurt it for 1, others for 0.25)

Undying
- Decay steal duration increased from 25/30/35/40 to 40

Vengeful Spirit
- Can now use Blink Dagger
- If you Netherswap a unit onto an unpathable ledge, the unit gains free pathing for 5 seconds

Venomancer
- Poison Nova no longer ignores invis/fogged units
- Venomous Gale no longer ignores invis units
- Venomous Gale damage over time rebalanced from 15/30/45/60 to 0/30/60/90
- Poison Sting duration increased from 6/8/10/12 to 6/9/12/15
- Poison Sting dps no longer dispels healing or disables dagger
- Plague Wards now have Poison Sting for 50% of the damage at the current skilled level (When both Venomancer and a Plague Ward affect a target, only the highest dps is applied)
- Plague Wards XP bounty increased from 12/12/25/25 to 20/25/30/35

Viper
- Poison Attack cooldown reduced from 4/3/0/0 to 0
- Corrosive Skin no longer works while doomed

Visage
- Base armor reduced by 1
- Base magic resistance reduced from 25% to 10%

Warlock
- Fatal Bonds now links the closest units to the initial target, instead of randomly choosing targets in its AoE
- Upheaval cast range increased from 700 to 1200
- Upheaval duration increased from 10 to 12
- Removed Chaotic Offering 100 impact damage
- Chaotic Offering Golem armor increased from 5/7/10 to 6/9/12
- Chaotic Offering manacost increased from 200/250/300 to 200/300/400

Weaver
- Base attack time nerfed from 1.7 to 1.8

Windrunner
- Focus Fire remains sticky on the target you cast it on
Spoiler:


Witch Doctor
- Death Ward cast range increased from 400 to 600
- Voodoo Restoration AoE increased from 350 to 500
- Voodoo Restoration manacost over time reduced from 8/14/20/26 to 8/12/16/20 (50% of the heal amount)
- Paralyzing Casks now lasts 5 seconds on illusions (same as creep duration)




ITEMS

Animal Courier
- Movement speed increased from 300 to 350
- HP increased from 45 to 75

Arcane Boots
- Movement speed bonus reduced from 60 to 55

Armlet of Mordiggian
- Unholy Strength STR gain is provided over 0.7 seconds
- Unholy Strength has no toggle on or off cooldown

Black King Bar
- Recipe cost increased from 1300 to 1375

Blink Dagger
- Damage disable no longer ignores self damage
Spoiler:


Bloodstone
- Now gives the +10 damage from its components

Boots of Travel
- Now prioritizes nearby structures first within 325 AoE from targeting position (when ground targeted)

Bottle
- Gold cost increased from 600 to 650

Clarity Potion
- Is no longer shareable (but can still be used on a target ally)

Dust of Appearance
- Slow increased from 10 to 15%

Eul's Scepter of Divinity
- Cyclone cooldown reduced from 30 to 25
- Movement speed bonus increased from 35 to 40

Eye of Skadi
- Eye of Skadi MS/AS slow increased from 30/20 to 35/35

Flying Courier
- Cannot be purchased until 3 minutes after creeps spawn

Gem of True Sight
- Gold cost increased from 850 to 900

Hand of Midas
- Transmute no longer works against Necronomicon units

Healing Salve
- Gold cost increased from 100 to 115
- Is no longer shareable (but can still be used on a target ally)

Helm of the Dominator
- Dominate can no longer control Necronomicon units

Hyperstone
- Gold cost reduced from 2100 to 2000

Linken's Sphere
- Linken's Sphere can now be cast on an allied hero to transfer the buff
Spoiler:


Maelstrom
- Chain Lightning AoE increased from 500 to 900

Mjollnir
- Static Charge radius around attacker increased from 300 to 450
- Static Charge hit count increased from 3 to 5
- Chain Lightning AoE increased from 500 to 900

Necronomicon
- Summoned units duration increased from 35 to 40

Observer Ward
- Duration increased from 6 to 7 minutes
- Killing Observer Wards now grants a 50 gold bounty

Phase Boots
- Movement speed bonus reduced from 55 to 50

Pipe of Insight
- Barrier AoE increased from 500 to 900

Power Treads
- Movement speed bonus reduced from 55 to 50

Radiance
- Burn Damage AoE increased from 650 to 700

Refresher Orb
- Now gives the +10 attack speed from its components

Rod of Atos
- Cripple cooldown reduced from 16 to 12

Sange and Yasha
- Movement speed bonus increased from 12 to 16%

Sentry Ward
- Duration increased from 3 to 4 minutes
- No longer gives permanent vision around it
- Gives ground vision in a 150 area around it for 12 seconds when placed

Shadow Amulet
- Fade delay reduced from 2.4 to 1.8

Shadow Blade
- Shadow Walk cooldown increased from 18 to 28

Smoke Of Deceit
- Smoked units are now always hidden until the buff is removed (rather than being hidden only from minimap and partially from world)

Tango
- Charges increased from 3 to 4
- Gold cost increased from 90 to 125
- Is no longer shareable
- Tango can be targeted on an allied hero to create a 1 charge non-stacking tango item in their inventory. If the inventory is full, the item will be placed on the ground. This item has a 60s cooldown.

Tranquil Boots
- Reworked Tranquil Boots
Spoiler:


Urn of Shadows
- Soul Release cooldown reduced from 10 to 7

Vanguard
- Damage Block chance increased from 70 to 80%

Veil of Discord
- Now uses Null Talisman instead of Robe of the Magi (from +12 int to +6 int, +3 str, +3 agi, +3 dmg)
- Magic weakness duration increased from 20 to 25 seconds



* Broodmother and Slark are temporarily disabled from CM, they will be added back shortly.

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Venomancer
- Poison Nova no longer ignores invis/fogged units
- Venomous Gale no longer ignores invis units

:(

I don't know if Shadow Dance will be termed invisibility or a new type of hybrid invulnerability.
 

Tobe

Member
i wish we could have the option of choosing what version we play. at least in lobbies. regen not being shareable is big deal. game just got a lot more dangerous.

i dont like many of the changes ugh :(
 

Archie

Second-rate Anihawk
whoa, pudge couldnt use blink dagger before? I didn't know any heroes were barred from certain items..?

also, all patch and no hatz? daed game volve db plz
bwahah

but seriously, this is awesome. I wonder when it drops? There are some really big changes in there. I wonder if any new heroes?

Guessing the 25th to coincide with the Korean launch, Holdout and
Legion Commander
 

Tagyhag

Member
Man now I actually want to play Broodmother.

I have to say, the Agh's upgrades for Brewmaster/Enigma leaves something to be desired.
 

Gav47

Member
New Tranquil Boots
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Active Boots:
+ 85 Movement speed
+ 4 Armor
+ 10 HP Regeneration

Broken Boots:
+ 60 Movement speed
+ 4 Armor
Restores when you haven't attacked or been attacked in the last 13 seconds.

Cannot be disassembled

So if you don't need mana these should be your boots of choice, right? Especially at only 975 gold.

Oh and the 3 min delay for flying courier seems silly, assuming it there to stop bottle crowing.
 
Holy crap those changes.

Treant's early game got fucked over.

Jakiro can now orb walk?

Disruptor's Aghs ult is an AoE Doom!

Huge Broodmother buff.

Oh boy!
 

SamVimes

Member
i wish we could have the option of choosing what version we play. at least in lobbies. regen not being shareable is big deal. game just got a lot more dangerous.

i dont like many of the changes ugh :(

You can still use the item directly on the hero for duolanes-trilanes, what this changes is that you can't pool your mid anymore.
 

KingKong

Member
I don't get the courier change, is he trying to slow peoples early game item progression? like why cant you get a flying courier before 3 minutes

if its just bottle crowing you could just change how bottle works with courier
 

SamVimes

Member
I don't get the courier change, is he trying to slow peoples early game item progression? like why cant you get a flying courier before 3 minutes

if its just bottle crowing you could just change how bottle works with courier

They already did, they just don't want to change it too much.
 

Tobe

Member
You can still use the item directly on the hero for duolanes-trilanes, what this changes is that you can't pool your mid anymore.

thats exactly what i mean. cant pull regen for off laner or carry or mid. extreme caution during laning stages.
 

ViviOggi

Member
So if you don't need mana these should be your boots of choice, right? Especially at only 975 gold.

I don't see anyone who needs to last hit (i.e. is prone to getting harassed) getting these at all with the 13 second cooldown, which is in line with the previous Tranquil nerfs. They're pretty much Roaming - The Boots now.
 

Raxus

Member
Them buffs for items and strength heroes. LOL they nerfed the hell out of shadow blade. Good riddance.

Courier additions are welcome as well as changes to warding which gives some incentive to counter ward. Less bottle crowing with the increase to bottle off the bat.

Huskar got neeeeeerfed. Along with Spirit Breaker (somewhat).

I really want to play the new Axe now.
 

shira

Member
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Awwwww yissss. I love these. Thanks Matt
 

JustinBB7

Member
Playing Broodmother now, completely broken/op.

(of course it's against bots and vision will still make it easy, but damn, hiding in the trees is so easy now.)
 

Anteo

Member
Random gold nerf??? Noooooooooooo

No, that's good, a team that is lucky to random 3 good heroes (as in, get a support and two other thngs) had a huge advantage.

Tranquil provides no regen if your hero attacks as well?

I don't understand how the new sentry ward works now.

For the first 12 secs it will work as a small observer with some vision around so you can see on the cliffs without an observer/air vision near
 

ElyrionX

Member
No, that's good, a team that is lucky to random 3 good heroes (as in, get a support and two other thngs) had a huge advantage.



For the first 12 secs it will work as a small observer with some vision around so you can see on the cliffs without an observer/air vision near

And after? Only detects invis heroes?
 

Anteo

Member
And after? Only detects invis heroes?

It works as always all the time, now it has +12 seconds of extra vision on top of it. The small vision it had around was removed.

It isn't good for me though :( I like randoming to experience new heroes and the bonus gold was nice :(

They should make it so the first player to random gets the gold, everyone else doesnt.
 

Anteo

Member
Poor Barathrum. The complaints of low tier scrubs got you neutered.

Looks like it's time to bust out the carry Leshrac again.

I dont see the nerf, his ult is a little bit more fair. That's it. Oh and he attacks a little slower. But the difference should be 1-2 attacks before the kill in the early game.
If someone saves the stun for the ultimate, it changes nothing. They could throw it at you at the start of the gank and get away from you/walk the same distance before you catch up.
 

bounchfx

Member
goddam those were some crazy big changes, just finished reading. Wonder who the new hotness heroes are going to be. Looking forward to this hitting, and hopefully LC!
 

1.09

Low Tier
nerfed pooling. Lol.

Nerfed bottle crowing. Lol.

Enigma Aghs is actually huge if you guys would read it. It basically makes blackhole the best spell in the game if it lands, cuz its gonna be that 4 second stun along with like 20% of their hp gone.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I think you're all missing the biggest buff of this patch:

Phantom Assassin
- Stifling Dagger shares the same crit chance/factor as Coup de Grace
- Stifling Dagger is now dodgeable
- Stifling Dagger damage rescaled from 50/100/150/200 to 60/100/140/180

INCOMING 810 TRUE DAMAGE CRITS NP.
 

Skab

Member
I dont see the nerf, his ult is a little bit more fair. That's it. Oh and he attacks a little slower. But the difference should be 1-2 attacks before the kill in the early game.
If someone saves the stun for the ultimate, it changes nothing. They could throw it at you at the start of the gank and get away from you/walk the same distance before you catch up.

His ult being able to be interrupted is a big nerf. If he gets stunned out of it, then the damage and stun is never applied, and the ult still goes on cooldown.
 
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