I did it once in a dual lane when I was new to the game. Felt kind of like a waste.
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I did it once in a dual lane when I was new to the game. Felt kind of like a waste.
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.wraith bands
.power threads
After a while, either (one of the paths)
.shadow blade, dagon
.sny, skardi
.diffusal blade, manta
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.burize
.butterfly
Sigismundo
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Purge mentioned these very items in his patch video. Thanks.
It's a Nerf. All he had to do before was pull a rock through your whole team, which was easy to do and damn near impossible to avoid. Kicking a rock into all of them is hard to set up and easier to avoid. On top of that, you really have to optimize your combos for rocks now, so it is important that you kick, pull the same rock as soon as it his the hero, and roll into them with it.
Nirvana
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The difference is though, the kick has a much further range, which was why I was initially concerned about it.
It is very easy to miss. On top of that, they made it where it's width is not as wide as it used to be. You have to be facing exactly the right direction or you will whiff it. Trust me, it's a nerf.
If you think a slower miss-able stun is better than a guaranteed instantaneous 1100 range one, you are very VERY wrong.
It will be nice to have a line stun and Ally pull on two skills though, but those garunteed saves because of the stun are now only silences. The 225 radius to 200 is actually a big nerf.
On the other hand in lane he has a ridiculous silence + damage nuke for 75 mana, but it NEEDS a rock and rocks are harder to come by.
Nirvana
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You guys both make valid points, I guess I'll have to see how it plays out in-game, or in Jeraxi's games. I still think a stun that you can casually kick backwards is going to be nearly if not just as frustrating as his current pull. Also good players may even be more potent with him with the changes, we'll have to see I guess.
We're the ones who keep picking scum spirit so I think we know a little at least. And you cannot casually kick a rock unless you are in a safe position or unless you have 4 or more stocked, the range of the stun only makes sense if you are super far back and it's delayed by over a second compared to before which is another large drawback.
The hardest part will be doing the Kick -> Pull -> Roll combo and wasting rocks / CD / Mana if you miss, or relying on roll initiation or other setup stuns or slows first.
Hylian is losing more with him and dipped below 70% win rate and 4 KDA though what a scrub.
I'm 41-11 on ES
Nirvana
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41-11, defs balanced hero. Like I said, I agree with what you are saying, but I still think he will be a pain to play against.
There's no doubt about that, early kills vs Weaver or invis heroes should be easier as well with an instant silence. His manacosts/stats will probably be touched next.
Cyborgmatt
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The Perfect World guys jumped the gun a bit and have announced the new Replay Takeover mode to their user base.
Basically when watching a replay you will have an option of instantly creating a lobby from that point in the replay. You can then get 10 people in the lobby and play from where you timestamped the replay. Everyone locks into a hero from that team and you play out the rest of the match as you see fit.
This will only work on games after the New Bloom patch.
Basically when watching a replay you will have an option of instantly creating a lobby from that point in the replay. You can then get 10 people in the lobby and play from where you timestamped the replay. Everyone locks into a hero from that team and you play out the rest of the match as you see fit.
This will only work on games after the New Bloom patch.
Man that's a damn great feature for tournaments.
balladofwindfishes
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I really hope that isn't the entire of Day 3. That really seems like it could have been tacked onto a larger announcement, it's not quite a thing to dedicate a whole day to :x
Actually, upon closer inspection this appears like it was meant for Day 2 and was just never added to our page, since there's has it snug in the area with random ability mode.
Actually, upon closer inspection this appears like it was meant for Day 2 and was just never added to our page, since there's has it snug in the area with random ability mode.
That. Is. Fucking. Awesome.
Edit: Can you imagine, it's two days after TI4 finishes, "gafhouse up, pw neogaf! Come join guys we're recreating the grand final from just before that epic rosh fight"
Seriously this is so cool.
balladofwindfishes
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Here's the translation from Reddit.
For reference, this was posted between Random Ability Mode and 6.80, so it looks like the English page may have forgotten to add it, or moved it to Day 3 for some reason and didn't tell the chinese page makers.
For reference, this was posted between Random Ability Mode and 6.80, so it looks like the English page may have forgotten to add it, or moved it to Day 3 for some reason and didn't tell the chinese page makers.
Cyborgmatt
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Wow, really cool feature.
balladofwindfishes
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I thought you guys liked spoilers.
He looks like he's in the source reference pose :x
That icon also differs from the one shown on 6.8, weird.
Cyborgmatt
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Yeah it's a WIP shot from a mole.
shira
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I thought you guys liked spoilers.
spoilers is srs bsns. Please use spoiler tags, people can decide if they want to read.
Thanks for the headsup Matt, great stuff!
I played the old version with the life leech
xValentine
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Looks like the child of Doom and SF.
... should look like.
Scrolling over the update yesterday I thought for a second that he'd finally get the much needed rework, oh well
manfestival
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Looks like terror and blade had a baby
Schweinehund
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I would think manta would be a top priority on him. He gets an insane amount of base damage and that would carry over to his illusions. Lifesteal could be solid for early game, though BKB is probably preferred. Diffisual could also work nicely to give him a strong slow.
Schweinehund
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Was going to say its the perfect way for Na'vi fanboys to rewrite history in their own minds for TI3.
manfestival
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so I went halberd/manta/mkb on doom last night and my teammates freaked out saying my build sucked and etc. Then I proceeded to wreck the enemy team. not sure the hate people give for builds other than AC/heart
I have never watched n0tail but the dude seems to be getting trolled by everyone but he is very entertaining to watch. like singsing except more aggressive
anyways whose stream is anuxi NOT a mod on?
I have never watched n0tail but the dude seems to be getting trolled by everyone but he is very entertaining to watch. like singsing except more aggressive
anyways whose stream is anuxi NOT a mod on?
Sgt.Pepper
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Replay?
I think Doom is one of the most versatile hero out there in terms of items, for sure.
Amazing feature.
cuevas. PhD.
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Finol!
balladofwindfishes
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I wonder if they'll do the test client today with 2 days of testing, with a release on Thursday
It's a lot to test and there's probably going to be multiple issues, probably some major. 6.79 had 3 days to test (over a weekend) for reference.
It's a lot to test and there's probably going to be multiple issues, probably some major. 6.79 had 3 days to test (over a weekend) for reference.
Complex Shadow
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Thing is though, it's tempting to just stick to the script with doom. I just get overwhelmed in mid battle to think strait.
The Technomancer
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The replay thing is so cool and so weird. Like, it makes total sense for dropped games in tournaments, but in general terms its pretty weird
Sgt.Pepper
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I love n0tail's Shadow Shaman.
Very cool dude. Kawaiin Punch is the team name if I'm reading this right? I thought after joindota lost the Starladder cast they would just shrivel up and die glad to see them doing something like the Defense to stay in the game and grow the scene too. The JDL may be even a better format than the Defense and its weekend openers to grow too.
Battle bonus seems bugged in your favor right now, try to use it, won't consume, but still get the bonus in game.
This seems both really cool, and mostly useless. I bet it was designed as a more robust reload option and bug fixing tool, and valve figured they could also make it a mode.
Would have been nice to be able to replay "the play" like this.
Transformation? Looks pretty nice
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