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[SteveWinwood]

The problem is at higher levels people don't play like morons and don't feed the pudge making him useless.

Pudges are so rare to dominate in anything even resembling high mm that it's easier to write them off completely.

 

[Kreunt]

I do not understand the communities love for Pudge

He cant support and he cant carry. He is a roaming ganker who needs to dominate the early game so him team can farm up
But in my experience this never happens

It's because this is a video game and hooking people is fun.

 

[Sanjay]

I actually lost with bristleback..can't believe it

You need to go Bristle Vlads.

 

[The Technomancer]

Had my first half decent game as Razor ever last night, went like 12-8-14 and really we won because our TA carried us hard against Viper and PA. But like, I really want to like Razor but I almost never have any luck with him. He just feels so goddamn squishy at all stages of the game, even with the damage steal, which I don't feel like I get nearly enough use out of because at most circumstances where I have an opportunity to use it they can just run behind their tower.

How do you guys make Razor work?

 

[ScottSullivan]

Had my first half decent game as Razor ever last night, went like 12-8-14 and really we won because our TA carried us hard against Viper and PA. But like, I really want to like Razor but I almost never have any luck with him. He just feels so goddamn squishy at all stages of the game, even with the damage steal, which I don't feel like I get nearly enough use out of because at most circumstances where I have an opportunity to use it they can just run behind their tower.

How do you guys make Razor work?

I think it helps to lane/push with somoene who has a stun, you initiate the link, they stun, and that gives you at least a few seconds to steal damage. At that point, they are so afraid of you that you can push the tower with your extra damage even if they run

 

[sixghost]

Had my first half decent game as Razor ever last night, went like 12-8-14 and really we won because our TA carried us hard against Viper and PA. But like, I really want to like Razor but I almost never have any luck with him. He just feels so goddamn squishy at all stages of the game, even with the damage steal, which I don't feel like I get nearly enough use out of because at most circumstances where I have an opportunity to use it they can just run behind their tower.

How do you guys make Razor work?

I like making Mek and Drums, then BKB on him, so you don't die so quickly.

 

[Artanisix]

I do not understand the communities love for Pudge

He cant support and he cant carry. He is a roaming ganker who needs to dominate the early game so him team can farm up
But in my experience this never happens

it's because pudge is fun

 

[Procarbine]

it's because pudge is fun

I played ultra pudge in ability draft last night: Hook, Razor's tether, cm aura, and viper ulti. Game was so easy.

 

[IHeartTSwift]

I played ultra pudge in ability draft last night: Hook, Razor's tether, cm aura, and viper ulti. Game was so easy.

That just sounds so annoying lol

 

[ink4n3]

Not sure if this has been posted, but it's a fun WD song.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=590260647723553

 

[Drkirby]

No clue what that page says, but it was made by hlgf a few weeks back. Here is the original video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZYgqBp1gI

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I really enjoy Sheever's casting lately. Been watching her almost every day.

 

[Skab]

The dota cinema top weekly plays bonus clip this week was amazing.

As was the Phoenix aegis steal.

(Link for those who haven't seen yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oATaNhWuGkk)

 

[Imp the Dimp]

I do not understand the communities love for Pudge

He cant support and he cant carry. He is a roaming ganker who needs to dominate the early game so him team can farm up
But in my experience this never happens

Whenever a pudge is picked I regret starting a MM search

He is fun. I agree he utterly sucks and is easily among the weakest heroes in the pool though.

 

[abunai]

Been out the dota loop for a fortnight or so, any good pro matches going on this week?

 

[Telephoto999]

Finally got my battlefury for void....

Spent the last 3 games getting used to him again.

Love him.

But.. last game we had a Naga.

She set up good songs.


But my team literally stood right next to the group of enemies... preventing me from using chrono even with a perfect setup.
I ended up catching them all in a chrono... even though they are standing right next to them during the song and then the "omg n00b report void!!!!!1111" starts.

<3 <3 <3

 

[manfestival]

The dota cinema top weekly plays bonus clip this week was amazing.

As was the Phoenix aegis steal.

(Link for those who haven't seen yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oATaNhWuGkk)

lol and there is the VOD I just posted about pudge being the number 1 in the top 10 plays. That phoenix steal was legit

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

I just played again a Terrorblade for the first time and his ultimate is amazingly bullshit. It feels like it's the best nuke/heal in the game and if your team blows your stuns/silences early on in a team fight you're screwed.

 

[dmshaposv]

Yeah now the faceless void is buffed, and a battlefury purchasable at the market for an acceptable price - I've been trying him again.

Do you guys always go QB, tango, salve > Glove of haste > boots > midas > treads > MoM > Mjolnir and then what?

Daedalus? Butterfly? MKB?

I tried battlefury over Mjolnir and it takes too long. Plus the attack speed bonus over the cleave works out better.

 

[Raytow]

Io is pretty sick support, too bad he is too micromanagey for my skill, but seems like in good hands you could have the best support in the game.

 

[Telephoto999]

Yeah now the faceless void is buffed, and a battlefury purchasable at the market for an acceptable price - I've been trying him again.

Do you guys always go QB, tango, salve > Glove of haste > boots > midas > treads > MoM > Mjolnir and then what?

Daedalus? Butterfly? MKB?

I tried battlefury over Mjolnir and it takes too long. Plus the attack speed bonus over the cleave works out better.

I've been skipping midas and going qb, treads, BF, yasha, Manta, Mjo

It's been working great on times when I can get farm. Last game I got a KOTL as support and he got me solo killed twice when he refused to give me mana so I could timewalk or chrono out. And he was consistently pushing the lane with illuminate... yawn.

 

[Divvy]

Anyone have a Charming Assassin's curl they want to get rid of or trade?

 

[Mohasus]

QB really isn't needed, his base dmg is pretty high.

MKB is a waste because evasion doesn't work on the chronosphere.

 

[ksan]

Yeah now the faceless void is buffed, and a battlefury purchasable at the market for an acceptable price - I've been trying him again.

Do you guys always go QB, tango, salve > Glove of haste > boots > midas > treads > MoM > Mjolnir and then what?

Daedalus? Butterfly? MKB?

I tried battlefury over Mjolnir and it takes too long. Plus the attack speed bonus over the cleave works out better.

I'd say the only reasonable Bfury build is Bfury->MoM/BKB
Usually for me it ends up being MoM first or Ogre Club then MoM, but sometimes you gotta go BKB first.

But if you wanna go the other route, I'd get Midas, then build up MoM/Mael or something, then Daedalus or Bfly depending on if you need pure damage or want more control/survivability.
And remember to get a BKB somewhere along the way if it's needed.

 

[The Technomancer]

The dota cinema top weekly plays bonus clip this week was amazing.

As was the Phoenix aegis steal.

(Link for those who haven't seen yet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oATaNhWuGkk)

Oh man we are going to get so many awesome Phoenix clips

 

[Hylian7]

Doing some streaming!

http://www.twitch.tv/hylian7

 

[Anbokr]

I just played again a Terrorblade for the first time and his ultimate is amazingly bullshit. It feels like it's the best nuke/heal in the game and if your team blows your stuns/silences early on in a team fight you're screwed.

he has to be right next to you (or someone) to use it (250 range) and he has a .5s cast point as well and it's also blocked by linken's in dota 2, yeah it's powerful, but it has plenty of limitations

 

[Artanisix]

He is fun. I agree he utterly sucks and is easily among the weakest heroes in the pool though.

can't say I agree with you.

Name the five weakest heroes of this version. This version is so good that I have a hard time naming three.

 

[Haly]

Legion Commander
Medusa
Sven
Wraith King
Phantom Assassin

 

[SamVimes]

solo mid Sven is imbalanced says nadota

 

[Acinixys]

he has to be right next to you (or someone) to use it (250 range) and he has a .5s cast point as well and it's also blocked by linken's in dota 2, yeah it's powerful, but it has plenty of limitations

I played a game with a classic troll TB. Rushed Shadow Blade and Dagon 5. Would let creeps get him to about 400 Hp, would walk up to a hero and ult + dagon them

Was pretty funny.

 

[Chris R]

he has to be right next to you (or someone) to use it (250 range) and he has a .5s cast point as well and it's also blocked by linken's in dota 2, yeah it's powerful, but it has plenty of limitations

Limitations don't apply in the trench baby!

 

[Anbokr]

Legion Commander
Medusa
Sven
Wraith King
Phantom Assassin

take out sven and wraith king and add Huskar and Troll Warlord

 

[Artanisix]

Legion Commander
Medusa
Sven
Wraith King
Phantom Assassin

Of those, only Medusa I can agree with.

 

[Haly]

take out sven and wraith king and add Huskar and Troll Warlord

That lane harass tho?

Of those, only Medusa I can agree with.

I was going to put Meepo on there just for you.

 

[1.09]

lcs scary if they rush blink
dusa is my secret waifu
sven is ass 100% fuck that hero
wraith king is ownage unless anbokrs playing it hten its literally wraith peasant
pa is ownage.

sven brew brood spectre necrophos

Spoiler

and peruvian miranas

 

[Chris R]

Sad to say, adding USE didn't cause my queue timer to drop at all. Fuck 8+ min waits for every single game

 

[Anbokr]

lcs scary if they rush blink
dusa is my secret waifu
sven is ass 100% fuck that hero
wraith king is ownage unless anbokrs playing it hten its literally wraith peasant
pa is ownage.

sven brew brood spectre necrophos

Spoiler

and peruvian miranas

bro u still mad i completely rekt ur sniper with wraith king 1v1 mid? fkn eziest game of my life out cs'd u so hard
oh yah i forgot about broodmother

 

[1.09]

bro u still mad i completely rekt ur sniper with wraith king 1v1 mid? fkn eziest game of my life out cs'd u so hard and made ur lanes take a knee.

literally nothing anbokr has posted in this thread is true.

also streaming for a few hours. Hoping to win some points back.

My mods are still potatoes

http://www.twitch.tv/109dota

i lied i'm done with dota

 

[Haly]

LC has no lane presence and a slow and fragile jungle. She can't gank until 6 and she can't solo gank very well either. She gets shut down by a few key wards and callouts. She needs items in order to be able to win duels solo, but every item she gets delays her Blink/Sblade.

I would take a Lycan or LD over her in the jungle any day.

 

[Sigismundo]

How would people feel about something that builds into Blink Dagger (while still not giving it any stats) in order to make it easier for supports?

Maybe a mini-Blink with a much higher CD/much lower range. Call it Flash something.

 

[Haly]

Is this a joke

 

[Sigismundo]

Kinda.

 

[manfestival]

literally nothing anbokr has posted in this thread is true.

also streaming for a few hours. Hoping to win some points back.

My mods are still potatoes

http://www.twitch.tv/109dota

Manmode (not disruptor)

 

[Haly]

While I would personally love Blink being easier to build, Force Staff already fills that very same niche and it was nerfed for a reason. With the new change to Blink, it's stronger than ever and doesn't need to be further buffed by making it easily buildable.

 

[Anbokr]

literally nothing anbokr has posted in this thread is true.

also streaming for a few hours. Hoping to win some points back.

My mods are still potatoes

http://www.twitch.tv/109dota

eziest mid of my life fkn took 2000 mmr from u

 

[Sigismundo]

While I would personally love Blink being easier to build, Force Staff already fills that very same niche and it was nerfed for a reason. With the new change to Blink, it's stronger than ever and doesn't need to be further buffed by making it easily buildable.

If you'll believe it I completely forgot Force Staff existed.

Never mind me.

 

[Haly]

If you'll believe it I completely forgot Force Staff existed.

Never mind me.

100% copper scum.

(a google search for "copper scum" turns up G.ZZZ's dotoboffo)

 

[Acinixys]

I think i broke it

 

[Sigismundo]

100% copper scum.

(a google search for "copper scum" turns up G.ZZZ's dotoboffo)

He doesn't seem to be a fan of Phoenix.