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Dota 2 |OT3| #BetterThenEllenPudge
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As it turns out having one fraud 3700 MMR + someone else with 130 Wins + 3 people with no PvP games vs 3000MMR players is not a good idea
http://dotabuff.com/matches/543058509
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http://dotabuff.com/matches/543058509
never make a gif again dear lord.
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Other than "don't" how does one beat Huskar in mid as Shadow Fiend?
Edit: http://dotabuff.com/matches/543436823
Often I forget that even if you lose your lane horribly, you have not necessarily lost the game. We played smart, bought the right items, came back and won it. On top of that there were dumb decisions by the other team (No BKB Legion). BKB, Desolator, Earthshaker fissures, NP splitpush, Halberd on Phoenix, damage on Sniper. All of this won us the game.
Edit: http://dotabuff.com/matches/543436823
Often I forget that even if you lose your lane horribly, you have not necessarily lost the game. We played smart, bought the right items, came back and won it. On top of that there were dumb decisions by the other team (No BKB Legion). BKB, Desolator, Earthshaker fissures, NP splitpush, Halberd on Phoenix, damage on Sniper. All of this won us the game.
i can, if you can stand a lowly mmr peon.
Marauder Shields
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Holy mother of lag. Trying to watch LGD vs Titan atm.
Marauder Shields
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Marauder Shields
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If you're like how I was when I started (having never played a MOBA/ARTS before) it's gonna take a while before you begin to understand things. Have you been reading any beginner guides?
Sure, and I think I understand most basic concepts, at least in theory. I also love (single player) ARTS games like Dawn of War and character focussed missions in games like Starcraft 2 or Warcraft 3, which was my main motivation to give DOTA 2 a spin. But I have absolutely no clue what I'm supposed to do here, most guides are more confusing than anything, and the vast amount of characters with all their different roles and abilities doesn't make the game very approachable.
You just need to get used to having 9 other people on the map wanting you dead. Just keep playing, you'll have an epiphany sooner or later.
I'm not an amazing player myself but Purge's videos helped me quite a lot. Just choose a hero you want to learn and watch Purge playing him. He usually explains what he's doing and why.
Welcome to Dota, You Suck Guide by Purge
Purge's YouTube Videos
Telephoto999
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Well, 4 other people on the map don't really want you dead, it's just sometimes what they do cause you to die more than what the real enemy team does.
when you die a few times i assure you that some of your team will want to kill you
Gully State
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100 hours to not suck...you'll probably still be bad after that but at least you'll have an idea of where you went wrong or what you're doing right.
On that 2700 MMR grind as well. I'm mostly picking Bloodseeker and Viper as my ticket to 3k; most players in this bracket really don't know how to properly play against these heroes.
Yeah I need to stop playing support so much because 95% of the time it feels like whether my team wins or not is out of my hands. I need to be in the carry driver seat. I do the best supporting of my Dota career and end up losing anyways.
Supporting is more than just buying wards in Dota 2, Boken.
SteveWinwood
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You've reached the point in the cycle where you can now answer the question 'why is my team 5 carries?'
Says the 7000mmr warder
What I'm saying is that you guys aren't supporting as well as you think you are
Dass why I'm asking what supporting means to you
It means being a good babysitter to me, and I think I am a good babysitter.
It can also mean roaming the map and helping your team secure kills.
boken asking those hard hitting questions.
Streaming for a few hours, you'll most likely see supporting not of my own will.
http://www.twitch.tv/109dota
boken if u type something witty in stream chat i'll give u mod
Streaming for a few hours, you'll most likely see supporting not of my own will.
http://www.twitch.tv/109dota
boken if u type something witty in stream chat i'll give u mod
I group that with being a good babysitter. Proving adult assistance when needed.
shira
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I only mod for professional players
Dunno man, whenever I decide to play support for real, I feel like its mostly me that did the hard work. Yep, I put that ward that prevented these ganks, Yep I got the sentries/dust to get this invis fucker. Yep, I did that clutch tp that turned things around for the other lane. Yep, I roamed forest and found that low hp commander and killed her. Yep, I made sure to only take the creeps that my ally would not get and upgrade the courier as soon as the game hits 3:00. Yep, I stacked these camps for the naix. Yep, I sacrificed myself so that guy could get away
Its the little things, without this the team would not even get to the midgame. From that point is all about the carry doing work (and it hurts when you try to do your best and then the carry gets its BF at min 35)
Then again most of the time I just decide to get the farm for me and not do shit for the team. That's why I will forever be in the 3500 trench
SteveWinwood
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i wanna be a mod 109
Yeah definitely. A big part of support is creating opportunity and taking advantage of it and it feels good when you take advantage of those situations. I can only speak for my hella low bracket though and if I'm doing solo queue there are a lot of opportunities that I create and make apparent through communication that go unnoticed. Low HP junglers, uncontested and easy towers, runes, etc. There are few opportunities that can be taken advantage of on your own as support but they do exist and I myself need to work on utilizing these openings.
Its the image of axe used as a graphic for the test client when it first rolled out. Not sure if its am indication of what valves cosmetic plans were at the time.
Also, supporting is so much more then baby sitting, its working towards supporting a teams goals, and hampering the enemies goals. Want to have a late game carry, try and make it safe for him to farm by getting up vision, pushing the other side of the map, sit next to him and place sentry wards all over the jungle to hinder invis enemies. Enemy is drafting a summon push line up, draft a character who can kill the creeps easily. Enemy mostly does physical damage, make sure the team has a vlads. Meaningful Map movement, itemzation, ensuring the team is safe are key points of a support.
That almost tripple kill brisleback into vengo well played spam + feed; I don't know if I should laugh or cry that 5k mmr seems as bas as my 3.4k mmr trench level.
so after a nice streak of games of great teammates I get saddled with an alch who places wards next to trees and has a casual perserverance and a invoker who stopped going q/w halfway and began maxxing exort.
Phoenix is great fun, though I wanna switch to Nyx now. How does he do offlane? I've been hit with every possible combo aside from a aggressive trilane that dewards when I do my phoenix offlane, been able to overcome all of it.
Phoenix is great fun, though I wanna switch to Nyx now. How does he do offlane? I've been hit with every possible combo aside from a aggressive trilane that dewards when I do my phoenix offlane, been able to overcome all of it.
SteveWinwood
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add it to the cycle
Heavy's Sandvich
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Gully State
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Rant time... I really am starting to despise junglers in general. Good ones hat actually gank I have no problems with but the 99% of the ones I come across do nothing but sit in the jungle and AFK farm for 20 min contributing nothing.
Fountain fishing, hate that crap, I always push towers, buffer structures and hit the ancient why prolong the suffering of the guys who are losing so hard, oh wait jackasses that is why.
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