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[Razzer]

I have a question out of curiosity.

Why has the player in the safe lane farming been regarded as the hard carry and the midlaner regarded as the "secondary carry".

The player in mid has solo exp + farm, while the safe laner is usually laning with a support that will sap a percentage of the exp.

Genuinely curious how this setup got started.

I believe it's because mid is more susceptible to ganks from supports. The midlaner typically values levels over items, whereas the hard carry values items first. So mid gets solo exp and safe lane is easier to get last hits.

That said, its not too uncommon for the main carry to be placed in mid these days. EG do that a lot as Arteezy is so good at farming and sensing ganks, and heroes like Naga are played mid but are definitely the 1 role.

 

[FACE]

Big feeds from EG.

Edit: EE keeps getting DUNKED

 

[Servbot #42]

OKay then, how about people just Quote this and I'll random number generate the victor from the list.

Quote to win DAZZURL Shadow flame set or something.

Hey i like dazzle so obviously i will never win.

 

[Ultimatum]

I have a question out of curiosity.

Why has the player in the safe lane farming been regarded as the hard carry and the midlaner regarded as the "secondary carry".

The player in mid has solo exp + farm, while the safe laner is usually laning with a support that will sap a percentage of the exp.

Genuinely curious how this setup got started.

safe lane does nothing but farm, so even though exp is reduced farm is more likely to be secured

mid is more dangerous and usually spends time ganking and fighting which can snowball, but farm isn't guaranteed

 

[Sibylus]

OKay then, how about people just Quote this and I'll random number generate the victor from the list.

Quote to win DAZZURL Shadow flame set or something.

WHERE FALLS MY SHADOW, FALLS MY FOE

 

[FACE]

WHERE FALLS MY SHADOW, FALLS MY FOE

You didn't even got the quote right, ban this filth from the competition

 

[Granadier]

Awesome, thanks for the answers guys. That clears things up.

 

[Razzer]

THESE DUNKS

 

[mfaex]

Had to step out and have missed this entire EG game, god dammit.

 

[Servbot #42]

Which tournament was the eg vs c9 game?

 

[ViviOggi]

Which tournament was the eg vs c9 game?

D2L

 

[FACE]

Which tournament was the eg vs c9 game?

http://www.twitch.tv/d2l

 

[Granadier]

Which tournament was the eg vs c9 game?

C9 vs. EG: D2L

Na'Vi vs. Empire : Dreamleague

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Could we have the dreamleague without Draskyl?

If Luna didn't buy an item that helps her, she wouldn't have done as well as she would have done.

That's some insight.

 

[Ketch]

Is Fear back yet?

 

[aeolist]

Is Fear back yet?

no

 

[Razzer]

Is Fear back yet?

He comes back on the 10th.

 

[FACE]

All chat drama!

 

[Granadier]

Is Fear back yet?

Looks like he will be back on the 10th though. tweet

edit: beaten by Razzer

 

[Sibylus]

You didn't even got the quote right, ban this filth from the competition

I blame the toxic Dota community!

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

RTZ just dunking all over the shop.

 

[FACE]

Amazing Ult by EE there.

Spoiler

Waiting for Heavy's Sandvich come here to defend him.

 

[Razzer]

DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK, DUNK DUNK DUNK.

DUNK DUNK

DUNK?

 

[FACE]

DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK DUNK, DUNK DUNK DUNK.

DUNK DUNK

DUNK?

D U N K B O Y S

 

[Divvy]

You can't stop these dunks

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Amazing Ult by EE there.

Spoiler

Waiting for Heavy's Sandvich come here to defend him.

Desperate plays as Sing sing lost mid so badly against an Axe lol.

 

[shira]

navi next, c9 going 0-4 easy

 

[Radec]

lol C9.

Also, empire too good for navi now.

 

[ViviOggi]

Could we have the dreamleague without Draskyl?

If Luna didn't buy an item that helps her, she wouldn't have done as well as she would have done.

That's some insight.

What he said was that the Reaver Silent had bought just before the fight made the difference between life and death which is absolutely worth pointing out

 

[Artanisix]

D U N K B O Y S

 

[Razzer]

What he said was that the Reaver Silent had bought just before the fight made the difference between life and death which is absolutely worth pointing out

Yep, some of us more nooby people forget about timing windows and their importance sometimes, its often a big factor.

 

[ViviOggi]

Damn I didn't realize C9 vs EG was a bo3 and watched Dreamleague instead.

 

[Razzer]

Why does Ayesee have an Aegis?

 

[mfaex]

Damn I didn't realize C9 vs EG was a bo3 and watched Dreamleague instead.

For shame. http://www.multitwitch.tv/d2l/dreamleague/

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

RTZ dominated mid with an Axe, is he the best mid right at this minute?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I am unprepared for our Empire overlords.

 

[FACE]

Damn I didn't realize C9 vs EG was a bo3 and watched Dreamleague instead.

C9 got wrecked twice.

 

[Razzer]

RTZ dominated mid with an Axe, is he the best mid right at this minute?

i think Arteezy have insanely good micro and he is having huge impact on a games he playing if his teammates giving him space . I believe if Arteezy going to focus hard on improving and respecting his enemies he will be for sure one of the best players in future . Only thing he lack right now in my opinion - is experience . But this is not a problem and will come in some time . As a player i like him a lot . But the music on his stream is horrible !

 

[Divvy]

RTZ dominated mid with an Axe, is he the best mid right at this minute?

Has EG fought Na'vi recently?

I'm interested in how an Arteezy vs Dendi mid would go

 

[KingKong]

RTZ dominated mid with an Axe, is he the best mid right at this minute?

Well tbh Sing Sing isnt one of the best mids in the world so.. wanna see him play Dendi, s4, Mushi

 

[Granadier]

For shame. http://www.multitwitch.tv/d2l/dreamleague/

You, you are amazing.

Well tbh Sing Sing isnt one of the best mids in the world so.. wanna see him play Dendi, s4, Mushi

Dendi v. Arteezy would be awesome to see.

Personally I'm hoping for Na'Vi vs. EG in the TI4 finals.

 

[FACE]

Well tbh Sing Sing isnt one of the best mids in the world so.. wanna see him play Dendi, s4, Mushi

Didn't he play against those guys on last year's MLG?

*I have no idea how he did, I only know speed gaming won.

 

[Razzer]

Well tbh Sing Sing isnt one of the best mids in the world so.. wanna see him play Dendi, s4, Mushi

He's a good player, a bit overated in my opinion. But defenitely okay to be in a top team! To say that he is one of the best solo mids etc is really exageration, he played like 10 games in a high level LAN, you need way more to compare him to Dendi, s4 or FATA

Spoiler

I'll stop now, it seemed too appropriate to pass up.

 

[Divvy]

Sometimes I do think that SingSing's clowning around in pubs hurts him get better as a pro player

 

[aeolist]

rtz did play against mushi at mlg columbus didn't he?

 

[mfaex]

DK, Navi, & EG are in for Starladder LAN finals. I don't know if Alliance is in yet. That'll be where a lot of questions are answered (at least temporarily, real questions get answered at TI).

 

[Divvy]

James desperately needs a girlfriend. He's starting to look like an absolute hobo

 

[ViviOggi]

James desperately needs a girlfriend. He's starting to look like an absolute hobo

Hobo Yames is best Yames

 

[1.09]

OKay then, how about people just Quote this and I'll random number generate the victor from the list.

Quote to win DAZZURL Shadow flame set or something.

lel

 

[Razzer]

Sometimes I do think that SingSing's clowning around in pubs hurts him get better as a pro player

I dunno, you need some way to release tension, can't be super tryhard mode all the time. C9 have been scrimming a lot, and from reports by his current and former team-mates, Sing takes them super seriously. And other than mechanics there isn't much a pro at that level can learn from pubs.