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Dota 2 |OT5| TECHIES!!!
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Gentle Rodriguez
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Wut? All Pick is the worst. AR and SD are great modes.
Unless you're talking about Ranked, in which case they're all pretty bad. I've played a grand total of 2 CD games, and they were surprisingly positive experiences, though I don't have the patience to sit through the draft every single time unless I'm the one drafting.
This is fairly true. The fact that your aren't claiming absolutes means you are probably right, with some exceptions.
As for solo queue, I tried CM and CD a bit, and whilst I enjoyed it, my AP experience isn't so bad that I am willing to give up superior queue times. In fact I find the awfulness of AP Dota to be exaggerated, though I may just be lucky.
manfestival
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there is only one person that fills this void and its Loda
I meant that AP is probably the most popular mode for people queuing. No question it's arguably nowhere near optimal in terms of balance/quality.
All Draft would be amazing, but I don't think it's going to happen.
Yeah, this seems to be the general consensus. Thinking of giving it a long-term shot.
dude, win a TI, then you can trashtalk.
expect some bad games though. Bad captains will happen and so will players who say nothing during the draft and proceed to pick a hero you were supposed to.
used to be all random and random draft
then for some reason I returned to All Pick..
think im going back to AR and RD
it was more fun
shira
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Trance's gf?
Gully State
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Speaking of dotabuff, after a month with plus, I really feel underwhelmed with their "advanced statistics." To be quite honest, the whole matchups/hero counters stats are about as ambiguous as the hero performance bar in the game client. It gives me no useful information other than bragging rights (or perhaps scouting information on opponents). None of their paywell metrics point to specific areas of improvement for the individual player. It's really disappointing since in a game like DOTA, real solid advanced metrics can be easily developed since all actions/inputs are logged. Off the top of my head, stuff that could be pulled easily would be
for each hero...
average CS@10 min
average CS@20 min
average KDA@10 min
average KDA@ 20 min
Which just scratches the surface.
The shocking thing is that Dotabuff already polls CS @ 10 min on a global level, just not for individual players. The only neat thing from dotabuff I've seen thus far is it gives you a record for players you've played multiple games with/against (too bad outside of my friends, no one I've played with/against gets past that 3 game threshold)
What are some stats you guys would like to see tracked?
for each hero...
average CS@10 min
average CS@20 min
average KDA@10 min
average KDA@ 20 min
Which just scratches the surface.
The shocking thing is that Dotabuff already polls CS @ 10 min on a global level, just not for individual players. The only neat thing from dotabuff I've seen thus far is it gives you a record for players you've played multiple games with/against (too bad outside of my friends, no one I've played with/against gets past that 3 game threshold)
What are some stats you guys would like to see tracked?
yeah, okay buddy
I just play Random Draft or Single Draft if I solo queue.
One of those Vanguard Doomer's, hmmm? :x
Technosteve
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Kirby how the fuck did you get 131.2 points from one player? PatSoul team top5 what the fuck is team top5
Green Biker Dude
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i'll start by saying i only quoted that specific post of yours because 1) it happened recently 2) it was concise and 3) i just happened to remember it. but i'm not singling you out, nor do i hold any grudges -- against you or anyone here
but, my opinion on this matter wasn't formed overnight, and i've been here seeing the same thing happen so many times i've lost count by now. last time i complained about, say, mirana, i didn't even go into detail, yet i had at least a few people going on about how it only works in the trench where people don't buy detection and can't control their camera to dodge the arrows. nevermind that her winrate is the same across all brackets, that she dominated the na qualifiers and rtz, when asked the other day, which heroes he'd remove from the game, picked mirana and doom. so, i'm not buying that. it happens because of a number of reasons -- they way it's said matters, but it's not really all there is to it
i don't call people names in my posts either -- well, most of the time -- yet people always start throwing shit in the discussions. again, it's the internet and idgaf, but you're implying i start these things, when i don't. nor do i address specific posters before they address me -- except this time
either way i've written too much about this, so i'm probably not replying about it again
tl;dr i'm talking about the game without talking shit about people. not everyone is doing that, however
How else will I dominate my friends who all immediate snatched up Alliance/EG/Na'Vi players while I just filled my team with Chinese qualifiers?
I'm hoping to have this league won before the main event even rolls around.
Gully State
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Funny thing is that given the format of the International, teams don't play the same amount of games either. IE, my TI3 roster consisted mostly of Tongfu players and they gained a lot of points only because they played more games than the other top tier teams (if you had orange, you probably cleaned up big time). Picking up Alliance and Na'Vi players netted you less points despite their dominant single game performances.
yeah, okay buddy
I just play Random Draft or Single Draft if I solo queue.
You forgot my stipulation of "if I'm playing something other than All Pick."
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Update coming soon
Gentle Rodriguez
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god damnit
dave is ok
aztek is ok
shira
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More useless hats.
>('.')> Give more stretch goals
Also, I think I may need a more robust webhost, at least for the data base. I fixed an error that was causing steam ids to be slightly randomized, and after fixing it data collection basically increased 10 fold and the server admin sent me an angry email about using all the servers resources on a shared web server.
Also, I think I may need a more robust webhost, at least for the data base. I fixed an error that was causing steam ids to be slightly randomized, and after fixing it data collection basically increased 10 fold and the server admin sent me an angry email about using all the servers resources on a shared web server.
You already got your hentai tentacle hat. Timbersaw hats pls!
Is there a difference between the two?
Schweinehund
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.balladofwindfishes
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Congrats on your tournament item drop drkirby
I've been solo queuing in ability draft lately and it's alright. Highlights were the Nyx I built with riki's Ult, double edge, and venom gale.
3 things that I don't like:
1. Sucks when you get given a hero with absolute shit stats like alchemist. Adds salt to the wound when his ultimate is extremely good on lots of heroes (with better stats than him).
2. The whole "if I manually cast this orb effect with my melee hero, I get an instant-hit ranged attack" is very counter intuitive.
3. The first few picks are so goddamn important that there should almost be another way to determine it. The absolute worst is when your early picking team mate chooses something random instead of something powerful.
Other than that there are some fun combos to be had.
3 things that I don't like:
1. Sucks when you get given a hero with absolute shit stats like alchemist. Adds salt to the wound when his ultimate is extremely good on lots of heroes (with better stats than him).
2. The whole "if I manually cast this orb effect with my melee hero, I get an instant-hit ranged attack" is very counter intuitive.
3. The first few picks are so goddamn important that there should almost be another way to determine it. The absolute worst is when your early picking team mate chooses something random instead of something powerful.
Other than that there are some fun combos to be had.
balladofwindfishes
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I really want that mega creep new model goal, I really hope we hit that one or valve adds it eventually
vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
Darude at $8.8mil.
Wow.
Wow.
ur fantasy draft sux
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