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Dota 2 |OT5| TECHIES!!!
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Very un-legit.
SteveWinwood
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Some would have said the same of mirana.
It's the cliff jungling nature prophet of one mmr higher.
More legit than it used to be since the split shot change, still not useful if the opposing team has greater situational awareness than a potato.
Technosteve
Banned
Is this for first place?
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
They're the favorites to go through the wild card anyway, so there's no need to panic if you're Mouz.
I though dream-vision did medusa ancients?
She has a 5 second stun at level 1 it's nowhere close!
Yes, it used to be that Mirana and Windrunner were both considered "all rounder suicides", then people learned to hit arrows and use her ult as a smoke instead of an escape.
Mirana has a better disable, a better nuke, a better escape mechanism and a better ult though.
I don't think it's very good even in the absolutely best case scenario, safe lane farm is so much better. In additional to that, it is absurdly easy to shut down.
CIS is my wild card favorite if they continue playing like they have been lately.
I expect both CIS and Mouz to dominate MVP and Liquid though, so it's a 50-50 chance..
i can't believe vp are doing it
force is terrible on her, and I haven't seen him buy it
unless you are throwing random shackles this isn't true
you're full of shit
force is terrible on her, and I haven't seen him buy it
unless you are throwing random shackles this isn't true
you're full of shit
Ehh, I think it got worse after the splitshot nerf and it was bad already
rhophiehalul78
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Both of these games are fun to watch. Let's hope game 3 will have the same quality.
I think it did too, I haven't had the chance to test it out but not being able to hit 3 targets at level 1 really hurts her speed overall.
Most DOTA2 thing anyone has ever said.
Gentle Rodriguez
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Yeah he's so full of sh-oh look at this
But who cares about pubs right? The pros will know how to -wait a minute
She's bad.
IMO they should just do away with the angular aspect of the skill entirely. If a tree or unit is within a radius of the target it should just shackle regardless of position. Getting a stun more consistently is not too bad considering it doesn't do damage. Would get rid of the sick skillshotz bro aspect of it but as is there are better stuns and it would still be a shit stun if the enemy is alone/far from a tree. Shit, Ember's is a similar stun that's more reliable, deals damage, has huge range (with sleight) and generally gets the job done better even post-nerf.
wakajawaka
Member
edit, ok that explains it ^
But i want mvp to win
If I feel like watching games and there's one live I'll watch one, don't care about the casters.
Windrunner just needs a good ult. Not a buffed ult, a good ult that synergizes with her skillset or helps the team. Focus fire is hot garbage.
Think about almost every single target ult in the game (Roar, Doom, Lifebreak, Rupture, Viper Strike, Track, Fiends Grip, Laguna, Finger of Death), they all define the hero and are good without items. Focus fire sucks without a bunch of DPS items or an Aghs and an Orb which makes the spell only good if she is your 1 or 2. She either needs to have a good ult that is like those others or she needs to be changed in some way that makes her a much better 1 or 2 position hero. Just my opinion.
Think about almost every single target ult in the game (Roar, Doom, Lifebreak, Rupture, Viper Strike, Track, Fiends Grip, Laguna, Finger of Death), they all define the hero and are good without items. Focus fire sucks without a bunch of DPS items or an Aghs and an Orb which makes the spell only good if she is your 1 or 2. She either needs to have a good ult that is like those others or she needs to be changed in some way that makes her a much better 1 or 2 position hero. Just my opinion.
OldAsUrSock
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Mirana is the same way. Good in all roles, but there are better heroes in each role. Windy and Mirana still get picked because of the versatility the heroes have. .
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Mirana brings things to the party no other hero can bring; most powerful level 1 stun potentially, free team cloaking. Windrunner doesn't.
SteveWinwood
Member
Half life 3 confirmed
not sure how i feel about this comparison, since, u know, ppl actually pick mirana often
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Icefrog adds another upgrade for her Ags.
Ags Upgrade: Reduces cooldown, decreases damage reduction and Windrunner's Focus Fire now fires on all targets within 300 AOE of the primary target.
What if shackle had a little poison touch effect to it? No ministun, but does some low physical damage over time and if the shackle doesn't latch it causes slow that increases over a duration…. like the shackle is wrapping you up making it hard to run.
It would make it pretty decent vs bkb and nerfing bkb by association seems to be the trend nowadays.
OR
What if you could continue to move (and maybe shackle) while focus firing…. it would be pretty OP, but also fucking awesome. so it's a toss up.
It would make it pretty decent vs bkb and nerfing bkb by association seems to be the trend nowadays.
OR
What if you could continue to move (and maybe shackle) while focus firing…. it would be pretty OP, but also fucking awesome. so it's a toss up.
That seems pretty normal. I doubt anyone watches every single game. Myself, I try to watch every game that SyndereN and Sunsfan cast.
Gentle Rodriguez
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SteveWinwood
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He's destroying single handedly
imagine the plays, not only the long range snipes, but the long range tree clearing so your teammate can escape a gank.
Aluna???
Gentle Rodriguez
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Are they actually going to throw again
Prophet Steve
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Please VP, do this, gimme my rares.
Mouz hasn't really thrown either of these games, they just keep picking mid game snowballing lineups and VP is surviving the midgame by the thinnest margin.
Slark/troll is a better late game combo than mirana or doom though, so this game may not be the same.
Gentle Rodriguez
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This series is the best
It was so damn funny. I saw the ancients moving around and then saw Medusa wasn't in a lane. Pushed mid out a touch and then rotated around and destroyed them.
They tried again and then just went top (still level 1 almost 10 mins into the game). At least I got my OD win for the 10 challenge.
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