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[Dreams-Visions]

man, the buffs to:

Drow
Sky
Slar
Lina
Lesh

all make me very happy. Lina's stun is no longer shit. almost 2 seconds at max. Don't really give a shit about any of the other buffs/nerfs other than the Mirana arrow nerf, which is quite welcome.

 

[Mohasus]

Slar

Fuck this shit, slardar is the kind of hero that is useless on my team and the bashlord on the other.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Fuck this shit, slardar is the kind of hero that is useless on my team and the bashlord on the other.

ha. it's all about rushing that blink.

 

[Captain Fish]

I really like that they made Focus Fire less mana intensive, cause it was hard get off all spells in a fight before. Putting the cost nerf on the mjolnir not the maelstrom means you can still grab that and do stuff with her or ember, so that's cool. Skywrath ancient seal is crazy. I dunno if the mirana change will have any large effect, but it does remove her being able to point blank arrow you and turn stuff around, which was annoying at times.

 

[Booty Patrol]

Mirana
* Sacred Arrow minimum stun duration decreased from 0.5 to 0.01 (maximum duration is still 5 seconds growing linearly)
* Sacred Arrow minimum damage reduced by 40 (maximum damage is still 190/280/370/460 growing linearly)

no

just no

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[FACE]

ha. it's all about rushing that blink.

My man!

 

[rakkadakka]

First Single Hero Challenge is Meepo.

That's what I get for complaining..

Actually he's not that bad as long as I don't try to get all fancy with him

 

[DanSaxon]

That Batrider nerf is HUGE, wonder how it will affect the pro scene, I can see him being picked a lot less now.

 

[BigAT]

Is this a solution to deathball lycan? Or at least delays it?

I say no.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/696710209

That was with an 0-7 Luna and a 15 death Lich on my team.

 

[inkls]

I say no.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/696710209

That was with an 0-7 Luna and a 15 death Lich on my team.

welp

 

[FACE]

Man, this patch will probably mean less iceiceice Invoker

 

[Jex]

Mirana
* Sacred Arrow minimum stun duration decreased from 0.5 to 0.01 (maximum duration is still 5 seconds growing linearly)
* Sacred Arrow minimum damage reduced by 40 (maximum damage is still 190/280/370/460 growing linearly)

Thank you icefrog, thank you so much.

 

[Cato the Censor]

A patch that buffs Slardar and Elder Titan gets my seal of approval.

 

[Pratfall]

These changes are soooooo gooooooooooood.

 

[RS4-]

Well, got Razor for daily, knocked that one out quickly.

Now I have to wait 24 hrs for my points!

 

[Aselith]

not very funny valve

What a weird change to make. Why did they even bother?

 

[nilbog21]

that nerf to batrider pretty much renders him useless imo..

also glad to see the mirana arrow nerf ..

Is that a nerf to Cold Snap as well?

 

[Pratfall]

that nerf to batrider pretty much renders him useless imo..

also glad to see the mirana arrow nerf ..

Useless is too strong. He will be harder to lane, which for a hero with basically the best spell in the game is probably a fair tradeoff.

 

[ViviOggi]

that nerf to batrider pretty much renders him useless imo..

Nah, he can take another 2-3 hits. At this point Icefrog seems to just be testing how much more he can cripple Bat before the pros finally deem him unviable

 

[inkls]

Useless is too strong. He will be harder to lane, which for a hero with basically the best spell in the game is probably a fair tradeoff.

I though the best spell in the game was doom. Or at least single target disable

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Bat games are always exciting :/

 

[Drkirby]

I though the best spell in the game was doom. Or at least single target disable

Its the best disable, but nailpalm is one of the best normal spells. 70% turn rate reduction is so good.

 

[Acinixys]

Glad Mirana got her early game nerfed with arrow stun being lowered

Maybe babies will stop crying now

 

[dorkimoe]

so are they doing another set of immortals? or is that all we get this international?

 

[Technosteve]

mirana arrow nerf, not a real big deal. She was super ineffective unclose and this change to her stun duration and damage basically reinforces the fact you should be going for 360 no scope arrow shots to be the most effective on that hero.

 

[FACE]

that nerf to batrider pretty much renders him useless imo..

also glad to see the mirana arrow nerf ..

Is that a nerf to Cold Snap as well?

Nerf on early levels, buff on later levels.

 

[inkls]

Its the best disable, but nailpalm is one of the best normal spells. 70% turn rate reduction is so good.

I though he was referring to lasso?

 

[Drkirby]

so are they doing another set of immortals? or is that all we get this international?

Those 11 are likely it, though there will likely be some new TI4 themed couriers and chest, along with items you get with merchandise.

I though he was referring to lasso?

Lasso is a good initiation tool, but Napalm is Batrider's real best spell.

 

[ViviOggi]

I don't like the cold snack nerf at all, rip early game

 

[inkls]

Lasso is a good initiation tool, but Napalm is Batrider's real best spell.

I see.

 

[Pratfall]

I though he was referring to lasso?

I was, and you're right, it's probably neck and neck with doom as a spell, but the pickoff ability of lasso is a nice bonus. Tho Kirby makes a good point that pretty much all of batriders spells are awesome (unlike doom).

Edit: I love batrider and seeing him nerfed is a bummer but he is right back to being first ban/pick so I am always in favor of nerfs to rotate new heroes into the meta.

 

[Gully State]

With the range increase to QOP's dagger, you guys think people will start taking more points in it early on (2 points maybe) for better lane harass at the expense of scream of pain?

 

[evilpigking]

Ogre Magi already so good and now with the buff he will be even better. Kiss them mana issues mostly away. and can BL post initiation

 

[ViviOggi]

With the range increase to QOP's dagger, you guys think people will start taking more points in it early on (2 points maybe) for better lane harass at the expense of scream of pain?

Back when she saw play 2 points in dagger was already a common build in certain matchups, I don't see why not. I wonder if this is enough to make her viable again.

 

[Internets]

Can I do the challenge against bots?

Spoiler

 

[Baha]

Can I do the challenge against bots?

Spoiler

Nope.

 

[ViviOggi]

Of course I get Wisp

 

[inkls]

I was, and you're right, it's probably neck and neck with doom as a spell, but the pickoff ability of lasso is a nice bonus. Tho Kirby makes a good point that pretty much all of batriders spells are awesome (unlike doom).

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over all the gold I'm getting from devour.

You going to TI4 brah?

whats the link between einbroch and mason?

 

[shira]

I ain't saying shit.

You going to TI4 brah?

 

[Wok]

Daily challenge #1 is Nyx. It sounds okay.

 

[Ketch]

Nerf on early levels, buff on later levels.

Is that true? It changed from 60 damage on the first snap to 7x quas level... so that would mean you need 9 levels of quas before it does more damage then before... and they max out at 7 right?

 

[Razzer]

I'd say lasso is better than doom as you can still run away during doom, so it requires your team to stun them still and back you up. Lasso reliably steals one hero allowing you to insta burst them. It's so strong that teams pick 1 or 2 hard counters to it 100% of the time in competitive. You don't that impact from doom.

 

[Chris R]

Mirana
* Sacred Arrow minimum stun duration decreased from 0.5 to 0.01 (maximum duration is still 5 seconds growing linearly)
* Sacred Arrow minimum damage reduced by 40 (maximum damage is still 190/280/370/460 growing linearly)

no

just no

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

rtz is icefraud confirmed

 

[close to the edge]

I think I found my new favorite Hero/Item combination.. Slark with Blink is so fun. Had an awful laning phase (1v1 vs Lich) and I'm an awful laner in general but I got some space to farm my Treads + OoV + Blink and from then on you can just Blink + Pounce and get a kill. Shadow Blade kinda also works, but you need to get so much closer to the enemy and Dust counters it pretty hard.

 

[Haly]

whats the link between einbroch and mason?

Brudders.

One day Einbroch found out his younger brother is the biggest hontrash in DOTO2.

 

[inkls]

Brudders.

One day Einbroch found out his younger brother is the biggest hontrash in DOTO2.

Are you kidding?

 

[FACE]

Is that true? It changed from 60 damage on the first snap to 7x quas level... so that would mean you need 9 levels of quas before it does more damage then before... and they max out at 7 right?

It does 490 dmg(initial damage + 9 instances of 49 dmg) with lvl 7 quas now where it used to do 330(60 initial + 9 instances of 30 dmg).

 

[that1dude24]

More Tusk

 

[DanSaxon]

Shadow Fiend isn't available to vote on a remodel, i knew there were rumors about it but was it confirmed that he was getting a remodel before this ?

 

[Haly]

Are you kidding?

Legit, srs.