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[G.ZZZ]

who was vg mid? invoker right? how can pa survive that shit?

PA vs QW Invoker is actually slightly favored for PA. If PA has a PMS, Invoker can't actually harass her out of the lane, while PA can outdeny you easily. At 5, dagger spam can also drive out invoker of the lane, while invoker can't do that. Especially now that cold snap don't do any actual damage.

QE is slightly better cause you can actually contest cs with superior attack damage, but it's still a relatively easy lane for PA which just crush laners that rely on their physical damage for large part of their damage like Invo.

Build is PMS+ pooled tango into first item bottle, first skill usually blur, then max dagger, 1 point into blink strike, max blur, max blink win game.

After a bottle it's a disaster.

 

[inkls]

Crit isnt a spell though. How is that possible?

doom disables passives too

Doom disables all abilities, even passives.

edit: and beat.

^^^ what they said

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Mute#Mute here's everything it disables, read it up.

 

[rhophiehalul78]

3EZ5RTZ

Doom disables all abilities, even passives.

edit: and beat.

Just watched a game where doom didn't disable Witch Doctor's toggled heal.

 

[Acinixys]

Doom disables all abilities, even passives.

edit: and beat.

Wrong

Necros Sadist passive is not disabled by Doom

I discovered this by killing the Doom who was chasing me and surviving on 50 HP because sadist was healing me


EDIT:

Universe Dark Seer gg go next was nice knowing you VG

 

[Metroidvania]

Yeah, I was just reading up on what doesn't get stopped by Doom. It's more limited than I was led to believe.

Didn't realize that Duel is considered a mute also, I'll have to look back into an old game and see if it cancels evasion and the like.

 

[manfestival]

I was watching EG vs na vi and I wanted to hurt zyori so bad

 

[Dares]

So ET is straight up Kryptonite to Morph I guess.

 

[Semblance]

Didn't realize that Duel is considered a mute also, I'll have to look back into an old game and see if it cancels evasion and the like.

It does.

 

[Renoir]

^^^ what they said

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Mute#Mute here's everything it disables, read it up.

Doom one spell hero.
XD

Edit: didnt know there was "mute" and "silence"

 

[BigAT]

3EZ5RTZ



Just watched a game where doom didn't disable Witch Doctor's toggled heal.

I think it turns off the spell ability, which is the ability to toggle it on/off. Similar to if you silence a Pudge that has rot turned on, he can't turn it off.

 

[Dares]

EG is way in VG's head now.

This Draft is going well for EG.

Slark GG

 

[Ultrabum]

BloodSOOKA

 

[SteveWinwood]

bylatcyka

 

[inkls]

Doom one spell hero.
XD

Don't underestimate LVL? Death and the abilities you get from devour.

 

[Technosteve]

VICI with the garbage tier mmr draft

 

[G.ZZZ]

VG draft wat.

EG seems much better even if slark is half an hero against a bloodcyka.

Just noticed, 0 stuns VG eheheh

 

[Renoir]

Don't underestimate LVL? Death and the abilities you get from devour.

Unless its you playing, most doom I c get smashed early by me putting ward in jungle.by mid game he's easy pick off.

 

[Drkirby]

So ET is straight up Kryptonite to Morph I guess.

Defalut morph at least. You can easily itemize around it by picking up an ac or shivas though.

 

[Shiina]

Do you guys ever play together or stuff? I'm pretty new to this game and genre but already sick of randoms in pub games.

 

[inkls]

Unless its you playing, most doom I c get smashed early by me putting ward in jungle.by mid game he's easy pick off.

Thats because they're filthy casuals who rush radiance/aghs, spend the whole game jungle farming and buy no armor items

Do you guys ever play together or stuff? I'm pretty new to this game and genre but already sick of randoms in pub games.

What server do you play on?

I only queue on EUW although it feels more like the CCCP.

nvm then, USE here.

 

[SamVimes]

VG draft wat.

EG seems much better even if slark is half an hero against a bloodcyka.

Just noticed, 0 stuns VG eheheh

Just get tranquils.

 

[Shiina]

What server do you play on?

I only queue on EUW although it feels more like the CCCP.

 

[kvk1]

Bloodcyka doing work.

 

[Technosteve]

I only queue on EUW although it feels more like the CCCP.

the world is CCCP and USE is Peru. Welcome to dota 2

 

[Shengar]

Thats because they're filthy casuals who rush radiance/aghs, spend the whole game jungle farming and buy no armor items

Seriously, is jungling Doom even good at all? With his non existent armor, terrible attack and movement speed, l wonder why would anyone get him to the jungle at all except for devouring creeps abilities.

 

[Acinixys]

Wtf this Bloodseeker actually working out

And that bristle LOL

 

[KingKong]

EG getting straight up outplayed

 

[Technosteve]

Bristleback won't die

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

Bristleback being Bristleback

 

[SteveWinwood]

why are they streaming this pub game

 

[inkls]

Seriously, is jungling Doom even good at all? With his non existent armor, terrible attack and movement speed, l wonder why would anyone get him to the jungle at all except for devouring creeps abilities.

Its not that bad, you have a heal at least. But it certainly isn't optimal if safelane farm is available.

Wtf this Bloodseeker actually working out

Na'vi played him earlier vs EG and won. BS #1 EG counter.

 

[ViviOggi]

THE YUKES

 

[Ultrabum]

Bristleback won't die

Literally the best hero in the game.

 

[Renoir]

Wtf this Bloodseeker actually working out

Satellite vision is scary.

 

[KingKong]

ppd really needs level 6, they would have won those fights with it

 

[john freeman]

This game is pretty much every game i've played against bristle. Fucking hate that prick.

 

[Chris R]

EG won't come back from this... G3 it is!

 

[SteveWinwood]

EG won't come back from this... G3 it is!

wanna bet

 

[inkls]

dat echoslam

 

[ViviOggi]

Wow I didn't know you could Ice Armor buildings

 

[Shengar]

Its not that bad, you have a heal at least. But it certainly isn't optimal if safelane farm is available.

Yeah once I tried jungle Doom back in 2012 because I can't do shit against Sniper's attack. Hit level 3, straightly went into the jungle, wrecked Sniper completely after that. Feels good when that is happened. But too many casuals thought Doom jungle is the only way(much like NP which still fucking pissed to no end whenever I see one) to play him, so when enemy team constantly roam the jungle, it is their end. Well, even when there aren't any safelane, you could at least tried to get boots before go to jungle since that extra ms really helped Doom when someone decided to invade your jungle.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Wow I didn't know you could Ice Armor buildings

99% of the pubstars don't know either.

 

[inkls]

Yeah once I tried jungle Doom back in 2012 because I can't do shit against Sniper's attack. Hit level 3, straightly went into the jungle, wrecked Sniper completely after that. Feels good when that is happened. But too many casuals thought Doom jungle is the only way(much like NP which still fucking pissed to no end whenever I see one) to play him, so when enemy team constantly roam the jungle, it is their end. Well, even when there aren't any safelane, you could at least tried to get boots before go to jungle since that extra ms really helped Doom when someone decided to invade your jungle.

Do you mean boots first item? Like with the starting gold?

 

[Dares]

Wow I didn't know you could Ice Armor buildings

To be fair it's only been since a couple patches ago.

 

[SteveWinwood]

bloodseeker 100% winrate at the summit

 

[Gentle Rodriguez]

bloodseeker 100% winrate at the summit

Icefrog pls nerf.

Seriously though I do awful against heroes with global abilities. Zeus, Furion, BS.

 

[Shengar]

Do you mean boots first item? Like with the starting gold?

Not necessarily like that. In case you've just realized there isn't any safelane, and most of your gold have been spent for something (just like my situation with Sniper), you could at least try to salvage as many gold as possible with devour and occasional last hit when the oppotunity arises for boots before went to jungle.

I usually try to rush Midas by buying gauntlet first though.

 

[Zeth]

Wow I didn't know you could Ice Armor buildings

6.81 change. Was kind of overshadowed by the infiniite Chain Frost upgrade.

 

[Acinixys]

Mason needs to stop playing Slark

I never see him win on that hero

 

[inkls]

Not necessarily like that. In case you've just realized there isn't any safelane, and most of your gold have been spent for something (just like my situation with Sniper), you could at least try to salvage as many gold as possible with devour and occasional last hit when the oppotunity arises for boots before went to jungle.

I usually try to rush Midas by buying gauntlet first though.

I usually go phase first though. I think the +24 dmg makes your jungling go faster compared to the +15 AS from gauntlet (not to mention the MS)