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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character
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clarky
Gold Member
This should be the subtitle for the OT
Understatement of the year
Edit nvm just woke up, read it as less-skilled
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Calico345
Gold Member
Which one my fellow chuds??
Stellar Blade's Eve
VS
Dragon Age's Taash (they/them)
This requires a poll topic!
TransTrender
Gold Member
I think this title still belongs to Dustborn.
Holy shit just try to watch someone play it, it's torture.
At least garbage like Life is Strange Double Exposure is funny to clown on.
Vanguard looks to be on the level of The Acolyte, written by braindead Californians without an inner monologue, with some extra bits of clumsy performative gender bending stuff. Incredibly boring and eye rolling.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That may be so, but the more we study the nature of human behavior and its relationship to culture, history, and genetics, the more we realize that this is very complicated. As with any other field of study, the increasing amount of data and new information we gather over the years necessitates an update of previous tools and methods. The fields of astronomy, biology, archaeology, geology, etc were all "simpler" back then, but that doesn't make them more "correct". One can either accept this or dismiss this, but a proper dismissal should include justified reasons, otherwise it's not borne out of rationality.
xrnzaaas
Member
what are Eve's pronouns? I need to knowWhich one my fellow chuds??
Stellar Blade's Eve
VS
Dragon Age's Taash (they/them)
Bernardougf
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Tough choice. Eve wins by a landslide.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
He is up his own ass.
Del_X
Member
Yeah it’s awful but can anyone even be surprised at this point?
Bernardougf
Member
At some point in time crazyness became "cool" and "cute" .
I really think some time far in the future in history and medical books people will look and say "wtf where they thinking"
Bernardougf
Member
Well if they weren't flooding games with this shit we wouldn't have to flood boards discussing it ... I think raising awareness for everyone that is interested is important... if people aren't, there is always the ignore thread button right over there... one click away.
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Cyborg
Member
Yup, playing as a monkey is fine but non binary is a problem........Its all about choices and I couldnt care more or less.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I agree it's not the worst thing in the world. And I'm super PRO WOKE and proud of it. But even I think what EA and BioWare did here was dumb and in poor taste. It doesn't fit the game or the atmosphere of what people expect in a game with dragons and dwarves.
Some people were upset with LGBT stuff being in Spiderman 2, but that made sense. It's a game in NYC dealing with high school teenagers. This? Nah bro, it's just dumb.
83n
Neo Member
The problem is not the DEI atl all. It's that it's always right into your face with a big fat. You can write DEI characters without them feeling like shit but there not a lot of positive examples.
Me consuming any media: man, that forced lgbt shit is so annoying
Me watching Arcane: please let Vi and Cupcake be more than just friends
Bloobs
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Them tits
Bernardougf
Member
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You should stop to spread false wrong and even offensive information.. there is absolutely zero medical/biological of chemicals/brain physical alteration evidence for homosexuality, trans or non-binarism, the three of them are psychological and personal choices that dont have any diagnosis based on real tangible measurable alterations to the normal human body.
Assuming that any trans or non binary person have those alterations is assuming that they can be eventually treated with medicine, as much as Parkinson or any other brain desease.
Sexual and Gender choices are pure behavioral choices, accepted by the modern society. They are by no means accepted by the medical science as a real medical disorder.
Im a plastic surgeon who treats trans patients occasionally as Im obligated by my profession at some extent, but my patients receive their surgery indication from psychologists and not their clinical doctor's or neurologists.
Psychology is not an area tied to biology or medical science, it has its own rules and beliefs. Never mistake a phycologist with a psychiatrist... two very different areas.
You should stop to spread false wrong and even offensive information.. there is absolutely zero medical/biological of chemicals/brain physical alteration evidence for homosexuality, trans or non-binarism, the three of them are psychological and personal choices that dont have any diagnosis based on real tangible measurable alterations to the normal human body.
Assuming that any trans or non binary person have those alterations is assuming that they can be eventually treated with medicine, as much as Parkinson or any other brain desease.
Sexual and Gender choices are pure behavioral choices, accepted by the modern society. They are by no means accepted by the medical science as a real medical disorder.
Im a plastic surgeon who treats trans patients occasionally as Im obligated by my profession at some extent, but my patients receive their surgery indication from psychologists and not their clinical doctor's or neurologists.
Psychology is not an area tied to biology or medical science, it has its own rules and beliefs. Never mistake a phycologist with a psychiatrist... two very different areas.
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S0ULZB0URNE
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Mister Wolf
Gold Member
This man is responsible for a lot of this lunacy
Carl Jung - Wikipedia
Who could forget such brilliant scientifically backed statements such as this:
“Humankind is masculine and feminine, not just man or woman. You can hardly say of your soul what sex it is. But if you pay close attention, you will see that the most masculine man has a feminine soul, and the most feminine woman as a masculine soul. The most manly you are, the more remote from you is what woman really is, since the feminine in yourself is alien and contemptuous. ”
Soft Science psychobabble.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That's not what I'm saying
They are only "choices" in so much as they "choose" to tell the rest of society because they feel safe doing so. It's no coincidence that people don't "choose" to identify as something unorthodox in restrictive societies for fear of discrimination, violence, or reprisal. One's personal identity is what it is. It's not something you choose, like which hat to wear, or what should I eat for dinner.
Being trans or non binary aren't diseases.
They aren't disorders either.
Bernardougf
Member
This man is responsible for a lot of this lunacy
Carl Jung - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Who could forget such brilliant scientifically backed statements such as this:
“Humankind is masculine and feminine, not just man or woman. You can hardly say of your soul what sex it is. But if you pay close attention, you will see that the most masculine man has a feminine soul, and the most feminine woman as a masculine soul. The most manly you are, the more remote from you is what woman really is, since the feminine in yourself is alien and contemptuous. ”
Soft Science psychobabble.
Is pretty simple.. form a medical stand point almost everything "rooted in biology" can be medically studied and eventually treated with medicine and/or surgery.
Now things rooted in the mind with no diagnosis are usually treated when the behavior is not acceptable to the society ... but you are treating the behavior and not some specific desease.
Shubh_C63
Member
I have seen how these woke Devs infestation in America have good coding skills but just completely shit the bed in telling a coherent narrative.
So much skill issue for people trying to push a narrative.
To be honest no, just doom scrolling on sofa looking for any ps5 pro news on games.
Peroroncino
Member
I was gonna pick it up at some point, but I don't think I will after all, I was ready to ignore the scar bullshit, but the forcefeeding of this horseshit is going a bit too far.
Gonna look up Inquisitor, see the endings, read up on Solas and I think that's that, fuck this shit.
Gonna look up Inquisitor, see the endings, read up on Solas and I think that's that, fuck this shit.
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Bernardougf
Member
Exactly.. they are not desease or disorders .. therefore they have no recognition or application in medical science ... they are recognized and accepeted psychological and behavioral patterns. They dont have a place in medical/biological discussions.. but in psychological ones.
So tying to science and biology is just flat out wrong and factually incorrect.
But this is offtopic. So Ill end my two cents here.
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royox
Member
I'm sorry, I play videogames to scape from the real world bullshit, not to be reminded every 5 minutes that there are people in real Earth on 2024 that don't know if they are a man, a woman or an apple while playing a game setted in dark medieval phantasy.
Bloobs
Al Pachinko, Konami President
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Nice. One specific woke/garbage character that you can most likely ignore is now the Mason of gaming according to this thread.
MonkD
Member
What does this even mean?
Is going to Starbucks supposed to be cool now or did I miss a new meme?
TrebleShot
Member
I do t know enough about who that is or whatever.
But I've watched some reviews positive and negative and this game genuinely looks like it's been designed for pre teens to play.
I think the target audience must be like the kids who were playing lego games 4 years ago and now on babies first RPG.
I was initially interested i even liked the pixar face people but nah I'm not getting this too old and jaded to have my character babying others and the overall happy go lucky tone of it all also seems like dialogue is right on the nose no sort of subtlety.
I don't think it will do very well.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Thats because they need to sell the game to the Fornite market not the millenials. Its just how the world it is. Games are rarely made for adults these days. Market has shifted for big A games and they're not going back. The only way youll ever see an adult made game is if its a remake of an old game.
As for the wont do well, I have bad news for you,. It's outselling Call of Duty and Fifa on steam right now.
midnightAI
Member
Heh, it would be hilarious if Eve turned out to be non-binary, the meltdown would be epic (suddenly the character design would suck and ShiftUp would be considered woke and sexist at the same time by each side)
MrTroubleMaker
Member
She/Her/Woman/Cisgender XX chromosomes/has actual breasts and vagina/ no top or bottom scars/ ect .......lol this
is so nutty you can make up anything and string some nonsensical letters to together.
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TrebleShot
Member
Its third in steam behind COD and Steam Deck, its 10th on PSN. Not terrible but weve seen other games up near the top it doesn't mean its going to sustain success or have good user feedback.
The fortnite market is older than the seeming target audience of this game. Also it usually good to target the audience with cash to buy these games or for their children. Maybe its for those people to buy the game for their kids for xmas or something.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Bad games can still get lots of sales, but yes, will see if it has the same legs as BG3. As for who the target audience Dragon Age is, they've said it multiple times it's sorta of a reboot for the franchise which means they didnt give a shit about the old fans of the older games. :\
ricardo_sousa11
Member
Non-Binary, transgender, top-scarred pixels <3
Sentenza
Gold Member
Yeah... Fuck this patronizing bullshit, by the way.
I'm not "upset by it", in the sense I generally don't spend a single minute of my day going the rounds crying about "teh woke", but on the other hand you'll forgive if some people are growing at least a bit tired of being constantly preached on how awesome and heartwarming mental illness really is (and how everyone should embrace it and praise it).
No, I won't endorse your "non binary" delusions and I won't buy that "trans women are women" even if you'll repeat it until blue in the face.
Felessan
Member
Should be goddess-nim)
RavenSan
Off-Site Inflammatory Member
This is the correct take.
I highly doubt this whole trans/non binary thing becomes a major lore point other than just a character development quest that you can ignore. Like I ignored all of Viviennes bullshit in Inquisition. Just don't play with that character if you don't wanna see it? Or play it and just forget about it as completely unimportant, because at the end of the day, it is. It's a video game. Don't look to video games to shape your world view or 'accept' something you otherwise wouldn't in the real world. If you don't accept trans/non binary people in your normal life, no one expects this game to change your opinion.
They wrote the character the way they wanted to write the character. They're not doing it to spite anyone in particular. This is rage baiting and click farming at its finest, and several people here are absolutely taking the bait.
Mozzarella
Member
So this is why they forgot to expand enemy variety and make better level design and side quests?
TrebleShot
Member
Thats fine, of course, but thats their biggest audience. Feels like a fumble, I suppose well see how it all comes out in the wash.
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