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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character

Mister Wolf

Gold Member
Yes. It’s a well known phenomenon in psychology.


It is commonly held that this occurred with bulimia in the 90s.

Didn't even need Psychologist to tell us this. Seeing cult leaders like Charles Manson convince people to murder or Jim Jones convincing people to commit suicide let me know that insanity is contagious, spreading like a virus. You just need open and susceptible minds. Like children, people on drugs, people who already suffer from mental illness, etc.
 
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Lokaum D+

Member
That it was already in your face before, being all surprised pikachu now is kinda silly.
what was in our face ? one thing is someone saying " i dont care if its a man or woman, he is a good person and that is enough for me" very sparse in the game, other is someone saying this " i m feeling non-binary today, i m finally discovering my true self" every few minutes.

these are way different lines of dialog and "wokeness", how can anyone think these two things are the same is baffling to me.
 
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Kamina

Golden Boy
I am so excited for the user reviews

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digdug2

Member
Didn't even need Psychologist to tell us this. Seeing cult leaders like Charles Manson convince people to murder or Jim Jones convincing people to commit suicide let me know that insanity is contagious spreading like a virus. You just need open and susceptible minds. Like children, people on drugs, people who already suffer from mental illness, etc.
That's a big part of the reason why I feel that this game's cartoony vibe was aimed at kids/teens. Once you've got them roped in, time for some good old fashioned indoctrination.
 
Seems like you have a problem, not the game (at least not this problem) There is a character that identifies as non binary? Deal with it. This happens in real life as well. Why should this upset you? Cause you don’t want other people to not be straight? Is it really a problem for you? Does this bother you so much? Really weird…

How about you educate yourself before opining about others reactions to a topic you clearly know little about?

Non-binary has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It's about gender/sex.

Some wanker academic thought it would be laugh to convince people that the sex binary isn't real and so this idiocy ensued; where pre-teens on social media decided they don't identify with either sex/gender merely because they don't conform to the societally constructed gender norms; which really have little to do with real sex/gender (which is rooted in biology); which is why the whole ideology is logically incoherent and fucked.
 

proandrad

Member
Hmmm what yall think? Major huge sales? Under target? Bomb??

I wonder how far the name alone will carry it.
It will probably sell a little less than half as much as inquisition due to how polarizing it is. I don't believe in "go woke go broke," but if you go woke you will lose a big chunk of sales.
 

peek

Member
It will probably sell a little less than half as much as inquisition due to how polarizing it is. I don't believe in "go woke go broke," but if you go woke you will lose a big chunk of sales.
My stance has always been, if the game is woke, as this game certainly oozes that vibe... then the game has to be phenomenal overcome that stigma. Baldurs gate 3 is good example. Has many of the elements that people view as woke, but wasnt complained about. As the game itself is top tier stuff.

But if a game is kinda meh, and its seen as woke? Then ehhh its gonna hurt.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
i had a genuine curiosity because the user said there was like tangible research and evidence.

I mean wouldn't that be an interesting read, that people with a larger part of X in the brain are chemically proven to be Non-Binary, i feel that would shake up everything
I dont think she posts here anymore but we used to have a member (alynn?) that was trans due to a specific chemical exposure in utero that altered her development. She was about the only authentic trans person I've met. Though I also suspect some older folks going trans due to brain injuries or hormonal imbalances. Wouldn't surprise me AT all if microplastics and birth control pills were responsible for most of what we are seeing today.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I dont think she posts here anymore but we used to have a member (alynn?) that was trans due to a specific chemical exposure in utero that altered her development. She was about the only authentic trans person I've met. Though I also suspect some older folks going trans due to brain injuries or hormonal imbalances. Wouldn't surprise me AT all if microplastics and birth control pills were responsible for most of what we are seeing today.
Hey you never know how chemicals affect people.

It's like allergies. Growing up as a kid in the 80s, almost nobody had allergies. I dont think there was even one kid with one of those life threatening peanut allergies. I knew a guy with an onion allergy, but thats it (the only onion allergy guy I've known).

Fast forward 20 years and every fam member's and friend's kids say tons of schools have policies since there's tons of kids now with peanut this, or seafood that, or whatever. And not ho hum warnings. But life threatening epipen situations.

Many of my nephews and nieces are in the same boat. Got all kinds of weird food reactions, when my generation and older are all fine and can eat anything. We cant even buy a big cake or desserts for fam dinners unless it has no nuts.

So something wacky happened the past maybe 20-30 years where humans changed a lot biologically across random people. I'm no scientist, but got to do with food or meds or plastics (as you said) etc... messing people up. Natural evolution doesnt change things this fast, especially across random people who arent genetically linked in the same family.
 
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AGRacing

Member
So you would define the game itself to be a pathogen…that’s the only way it has any relevance.
It’s part of the social zeitgeist, yes. What starts a social contagion ? Games. Bruce Jenner. TLC. Hollywood. Product marketing. Ru Paul’s Drag race. TikTok and YouTube showing your 10 year old boy a makeup tutorial done by a man.
 
Wait...This is fake right
You would think so but just like Dustborn which I thought was a parody game when I checked some of it's vids on youtube. I was like ain't no way people are like this so it must be a joke right. But turns out it was serious which just makes it worse of course.
Hey you never know how chemicals affect people.

It's like allergies. Growing up as a kid in the 80s, almost nobody had allergies. I dont think there was even one kid with one of those life threatening peanut allergies. I knew a guy with an onion allergy, but thats it (the only onion allergy guy I've known).

Fast forward 20 years and every fam member's and friend's kids say tons of schools have policies since there's tons of kids now with peanut this, or seafood that, or whatever. And not ho hum warnings. But life threatening epipen situations.

Many of my nephews and nieces are in the same boat. Got all kinds of weird food reactions, when my generation and older are all fine and can eat anything.

So something wacky happened the past maybe 20-30 years where humans changed a lot biologically across random people. I'm no scientists, but got to do with food or meds or plastics etc... messing people up. Natural evolution doesnt change things this fast, especially across random people who arent genetically linked in the same family.
Yeah lots of health issues are on a rise these days. More social media stuff definitely doesn't help either. I was born after the 80s but from what I've seen and know. More people were actually healthier, more sane, more social, and just overall better during the 80s even if things were more wild back then. I think late 2000s were when things starting going bad with crazy stuff being normalized and pushed. Now in 2024 we are at a point when things that should never even be debated become debated.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Yeah lots of health issues are on a rise these days. More social media stuff definitely doesn't help either. I was born after the 80s but from what I've seen and know. More people were actually healthier, more sane, more social, and just overall better during the 80s even if things were more wild back then. I think late 2000s were when things starting going bad with crazy stuff being normalized and pushed. Now in 2024 we are at a point when things that should never even be debated become debated.
Ya.

To go along with possibility of food/meds messing people up, people's mental state has eroded.

Too many young people attached to smartphones. Too many young workers grew up with this. And when you got too many people exposed early in life to too many dumbs things on the net something's got to give.

That's why the old generations seem more level headed. They are already established and the net was something that came abut hard when they probably already 25. And if you go older (my parents are in their 80s), the vast majority will be the same people with the same views. It's not like Twitter came around 15 years ago and suddenly my mom or dad magically amped up on online shit when they were 67 years old and now in their 80s are different people. They dont give a shit aside from sending emails about family dinners and doing online banking or checking the weather. My dad can barely even use a printer.

But when you got young people doing this from the start, it's overload.

Having fun as a kid going to the mall or playing street hockey is just that. Have fun with people face to face and thats kind of it. Talk sports, hot girls, which guy is getting the next awesome video game etc... There's only so many wild takes you can get hanging with friends. But you can get a shit load surfing the net in 10 minutes. And then when youre older in college without the net being the norm (I was still old school going to the library and doing photocopies), you hang out with friends at pubs or picking up chicks. And when it's time to get a job, you respect the process and the people there if you get hired.

Internet changed a lot in people. Since it's so much about self promotion and social media profiles and airing out views, it's become a very me, me, me world. I never used the net until maybe 1998 (so I missed all those early days of Geo Cities or archaic forums) but back then I dont get the feeling people were all about themselves like now. It was around that time because I remember reading up on PS1 games and early news about Dreamcast which hadnt come out yet. It seemed more like a hobby to goof around. Buying stuff online didnt seem like a thing, no Twitter or FB, no politics. I dont think things were even bad in the 2000s. It was some time in the 2010s which I think it really changed where people really got into it being vile, self promotion, making a career out of it, politics etc... I cant pinpoint a year, but I dont think the 2000s were like this.
 
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DeepEnigma

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The major differences is that with sex/gender, there are clear distinctions that differentiate the biological sexes, and clear psychological/cultural distinctions that differentiate gender identity expressions. However, the concept of race is for the most part a cultural context that maps a lot onto upbringing and outward appearance, but not necessarily genetics in the same way sex/gender does.
Sounds like a bunch of mental gymnastics to me.
 

RaduN

Member
This fake outrage is a projection of your inner retard. Go gaslight a mirror.

You somehow assume i defend shit like this? If so, you are wrong. If i want something "lgbt" related done right in a video game, i play some MGS2 (or 3). This is just uninsired shit.
But the actual "outrage" displayed here, which again, is not my thing, got out of hand fast&furious and with some Qanon levels of brainrot too.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
Hmmm what yall think? Major huge sales? Under target? Bomb??

I wonder how far the name alone will carry it.
The brand name alone will guarantee about 600K to 1 mil units sold, but that's about it. The brand name will be severely scarred after this game. And a lot of people will abandon Bioware. Will it be the game which will close the studio? Maybe.
 

peek

Member
The brand name alone will guarantee about 600K to 1 mil units sold, but that's about it. The brand name will be severely scarred after this game. And a lot of people will abandon Bioware. Will it be the game which will close the studio? Maybe.
Naaaah no shot it closes. Bioware put out anthem right? If im remembering right and that didnt close em... well.
 
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The fragility in here is pretty astonishing.

Fragility is having this faux "i don't give a shit attitude". The people who want a return to good games where good writing didn't take a backseat to obnoxious agendas, who are rightfully complaining. are not fragile but rather passionate about their hobby. Being able to go up against the mentally ill mob who's ready to throw accusations of "bigotry" is the opposite of fragile.
 
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