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Dragon Quest: Builders |OT| - "If you build it, they will come."
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toadsworth
Banned
Why is this game so loud
Unknown?
Member
Yeah mine too! My only complaint is I've wasted too much time playing it! Lol
As much as I like this game and have played it a shit ton, I don't know if I'd be ready to call it GOTY.
Don't get me wrong, I love it...but I think it could have been better in spots.
My problem with Minecraft was always that I prefer a more structured game, and this was finally a game to give me those elements of minecraft, with a more linear story experience. Plus I love the Dragon Quest aesthetic.
Problems are though is the story is kinda weak so far, and I'm not happy that they went with this chapter system. I would have preferred a story that involved having a single town that you could continue to make bigger and bigger. Expand the borders each chapter, don't make me give everything up. I also wish it was a vast world, and if you needed to have teleporters in the game, just make them fast travel devices, but still make the world seamless. I don't like these invisible borders placed on the world, and you hit roadblocks too soon in every direction I think.
Don't get me wrong, I love it...but I think it could have been better in spots.
My problem with Minecraft was always that I prefer a more structured game, and this was finally a game to give me those elements of minecraft, with a more linear story experience. Plus I love the Dragon Quest aesthetic.
Problems are though is the story is kinda weak so far, and I'm not happy that they went with this chapter system. I would have preferred a story that involved having a single town that you could continue to make bigger and bigger. Expand the borders each chapter, don't make me give everything up. I also wish it was a vast world, and if you needed to have teleporters in the game, just make them fast travel devices, but still make the world seamless. I don't like these invisible borders placed on the world, and you hit roadblocks too soon in every direction I think.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
1. I could totally see them using the 'Builders' as a brand -- Dragon Quest Builders, Final Fantasy Builders, Mushroom Kingdom Builders, and on and on.
2. I'm quietly reminded about what might have been if only No Man's Sky allowed you to take those dozens and dozens of material types and just let you build your own bases.
3. I'm currently hamstrung by my kid; he wanted to start completely over once we bought it and now he doesn't want me to play without him watching. So basically I can play 45 minutes per night. I could bust out my other save, though.
2. I'm quietly reminded about what might have been if only No Man's Sky allowed you to take those dozens and dozens of material types and just let you build your own bases.
3. I'm currently hamstrung by my kid; he wanted to start completely over once we bought it and now he doesn't want me to play without him watching. So basically I can play 45 minutes per night. I could bust out my other save, though.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Very good to see folks enjoying the game!
The blue bats can drop a green seed that do exactly that.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yeah you need those seeds looks like a green ball with a little sprout or something growing out of the top? Anyways kill the bats and it drops. Though its kinda uncommon.
Turns a specific sized area into grass. (forgot what the dimensions were)
Basically what the person above said.
You need stonemason workshop(I think that the name). Do a different buidling with a stone crafting table, a sign, a sac and a chest.
Take the forge out.
Ah I figured that could have been what it was... kinda weird flow that they get me to expand my stone mason studio by adding a forge into a workshop, but then I have to sort of go backward by splitting these things up into two rooms. I guess it makes sense.
AuthenticM
Member
What would be the best block to use as early as possible that are invulnerable to most enemy attacks? Stone? Brick?
Obsidian end game
Stone as early game. Edit: stone as stone wall. Castle wall is also good.
100%TrophyMaster
Member
Just finished chapter 2 speed run.
Finding it much more enjoyable to not rush the first time through a chapter and then replay it for the speed run trophies.
I really hope they end up making this a series like Dragon Quest Heroes.
I'm enjoying these spin-offs just as much if not more than the mainline DQ games.
Finding it much more enjoyable to not rush the first time through a chapter and then replay it for the speed run trophies.
I really hope they end up making this a series like Dragon Quest Heroes.
I'm enjoying these spin-offs just as much if not more than the mainline DQ games.
Just finished everything in chapter 1 including the city and am ready to move on chapter 2. With the missing trophies on the chapter one I thought of speed running it later on.
I see this game as my go to for some relaxing construction moments. Specially with the Terra Unknown option where we can build everything we learn during the main story.
Chap 1 done : https://youtu.be/zHOg29R2WV4
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
This game is very specific about the "quest" building projects so if they are not followed to a T it pretty much wont count it.
Its why throughout this thread you see lots of folks thinking something is a bug when it comes to building when in actuality most of the time it turns out to be an error with building / item placement.
Once you get all that figured out though becomes a lot easier. So its not really surprising that folks are getting confused as the game is a bit strict for the quest stuff.
Pyros_Eien
Member
They should probably have just used more blueprints as those are pretty much impossible to fail. At the very least, they should have been more clear on some of these quests as they create weird issues otherwise. For example the lady sign being inside the room instead of outside, the forge thing they really should have accepted both building types for it to register properly. I personally had issues with the water room in ch2, I think because of elevation, the water was too low compared to the ground level of my building so I had to remake it entirely for it to register properly.
So my biggest pet peeve with the the tiny building area for the towns. I was hoping a big open space for chapter 4, but it seems to be the smallest of them all. It's made even worse by the fact rooms with roofs become nearly unuseable, so you can't even build up to compensate.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Id say the major downside to ff unlike dq is that there is only a handful of shared monsters through the various games. Where dq has stayed pretty constant with its creature selection for the most part.
EndlessSky
Member
Just beat the final chapter. Loved the game so much. Gonna go back and complete all the challenges before starting the free build mode; pretty much only have the speed runs left. Though I do wish there was a way to import my towns from each chapter into the free play mode lol.
Just saw this on Reddit. This guy's town is bananas.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnW7CxvjNlM&feature=youtu.be
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hnW7CxvjNlM&feature=youtu.be
How's the AI pathfinding on buildings with stairs and higher floors?
I want to make an INN in my free mode town, and I'm considering putting the beds on a second floor, leaving the first floor as a sort of restroom, but I don't know if the NPCs can reach higher floors to sleep every night (and also don't know if the game will recognize the area as a room, considering how picky it is).
I want to make an INN in my free mode town, and I'm considering putting the beds on a second floor, leaving the first floor as a sort of restroom, but I don't know if the NPCs can reach higher floors to sleep every night (and also don't know if the game will recognize the area as a room, considering how picky it is).
Castle like interesting approach. Each their own style I guess.
Freezasaurus
Member
Holy God. Someone better tell him he can't take it to the next chapter. XD
He has some great ideas, though. Looks like he mined all the good stuff from the abandoned castle just like I did.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Nice!
FalsettoVibe
Member
How did he get water around his town?
Freezasaurus
Member
You know I was just thinking about this the other day. I wonder if you can do it if you dig a trench from a body of water to your moat.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Since you dont get the ability to carry water in the first chapter that pretty much is the only option. Man that must have taken a while lol
Freezasaurus
Member
I went with the empty pit + spikes option for the border around my town. I often walk by and just see items in there from monsters that fell in. XD
This game is amazing. Glad they released the demo or it would have never been on my radar.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yeah I did the same with my giant "block" of a town in the JP ver lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrN5yJRRSjY&feature=youtu.be
I think if I remember correctly even under that outer layer past the first wall is multiple walls underneath with hollow layers filled with spikes
disastermouse
Banned
Just purchased and downloaded this game. Is it really only 900-some MB? That seems...smallish.
I can't wait to give it a shot since it's a sorta 'guided' builder, which is what I'd need to enjoy a building game.
I can't wait to give it a shot since it's a sorta 'guided' builder, which is what I'd need to enjoy a building game.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
For the most part the fact that you have set objectives is helping folks who never were too into the builder genre enjoy the title. As it gives a real sense of accomplishment and direction with what you are supposed to do as a goal.
AuthenticM
Member
Impressive. I see that the Castle theme is very popular; I keep seeing it on the internet, even here. I don't like it though. I prefer a good old village made of wood and stone.
old manatee
Banned
I can't figure out what to do next. I have 2 quest markers that lead me to places I've already been. I've been walking around in circles for like 2 hours. I can't tell if the game is glitched or just really bad at telling what you need to to do next. I think I'm just going to quit and wait until they patch it.
Unless it's not a glitch? tell us what chapter it is.
This game is almost a year old, I wouldn't expect a patch, other than maybe the western only stutter problem.
Is it for people you rescued?
Bananastand
Member
I hope I haven't run into a glitch in chapter 2. I was supposed to find a sick person and bring him back to the sick bay. I did but the quest didn't trigger as complete. I went and explored some and I found another sick person. Brought him back too.
Now both of the beds in the sick bay are filled but that's it. The nurse still talks about finding the first guy with the quest marker over his head.
Now both of the beds in the sick bay are filled but that's it. The nurse still talks about finding the first guy with the quest marker over his head.
You need to give the sick guys whatever they ask to finish the quest.
Nexus Zero
Member
I did this the other day, it really only takes a couple of minutes. I ended up filling it back in though - my town at the time was predominantly underground so everyone just fell in and then smashed through into my rooms
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
One thing I never looked at is how the enemy AI react to water if they fall in it. Since outside of the 1 block depth lakes and such never seen any monsters actually go into deep water.
Never really bothered with doing a deep moat type of design thats why.
Lightning Lord
Banned
It can work, but you need to be mindful of how you build your stairs. I made a second floor in my town in Ch. 1 that the NPCs refused to use, and when I started taking it apart I noticed they were suddenly using it. I believe I had the ceiling too close to the stairs so it was messing with their pathing AI.
Begaria
Member
World of FF is that nostalgia trip already, but I've suggested the same thing but using Final Fantasy 1 as a basis that just completely takes the book from DQBuilders.
You're a Builder in the FF1 universe on the FF1 map, and it's set in a time when the Warriors of Light actually failed and Chaos and his 4 fiends destroy the world (for the most part). You've got 4 good candidates for the 4 corners of the world to rebuild with each chapter being represented by a Crystal (Fire/Earth/Wind/Water) topped off with a boss battle with an elemental fiend ending the game with the final chapter being rebuilding Corneila and attacking the Chaos Temple.
Like, straight up a carbon copy of what DQBuilders does just with Final Fantasy 1
World of FF is that nostalgia trip already, but I've suggested the same thing but using Final Fantasy 1 as a basis that just completely takes the book from DQBuilders.
You're a Builder in the FF1 universe on the FF1 map, and it's set in a time when the Warriors of Light actually failed and Chaos and his 4 fiends destroy the world (for the most part). You've got 4 good candidates for the 4 corners of the world to rebuild with each chapter being represented by a Crystal (Fire/Earth/Wind/Water) topped off with a boss battle with an elemental fiend ending the game with the final chapter being rebuilding Corneila and attacking the Chaos Temple.
Like, straight up a carbon copy of what DQBuilders does just with Final Fantasy 1
The only weak point with an FF builders is that a look and feel of FF1 would only be relevant for FF1. The art direction changes between every entry. Meanwhile, with DQ, you know you are always representing Toriyama characters, using a bright color palette, using 8-bit retro sound effects, and a monster from DQ1 will 100% look like its counterpart in DQXI. Its so much easier to build a game around this.
It's kind of like saying there should be a Zelda Builders. Which Zelda? How would you represent OOT with Zelda 2 assets?
I really want to like this game.. but after playing it got do long I feel like I've convinced myself it's bad.
I'm not sure what people are seeing in it..
I'm not sure what people are seeing in it..
Lose all progress start over in new area. It's dumb..