I love how you really do get stronger fast and the differences in strength are huge. Just killed a cyclops in like, 20 seconds, whereas the first one yesterday took at least 3 or 4 minutes
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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I love how you really do get stronger fast and the differences in strength are huge. Just killed a cyclops in like, 20 seconds, whereas the first one yesterday took at least 3 or 4 minutes
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I think the very first area is okay but going too deep is dangerous and you'll just die a lot. Or just repeat a few easy rooms in Everfall.
I had an amusing glitch the other day. Gorechimera in one of the earlier areas of BBI with the saurians. So I kill the Saurians from up top and the Gorechimera tries to follow me up (as they do). I proceed down to him only to see he vanished but I can hear it growl like mad. Look around for ages to see where the git is hiding...turns out he was in the water area that a player simply can't get to (so no way to pick up spoils). I like to think the Gorechimera squeezed through a tiny vent in the wall.
Then I experience a curse dragon falling onto a tree but unable to land on the ground and spazzing out. He made a great recovery and swooped back onto the ground, sort of like Ur Dragon's arrival.
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Gahhh...I didn't know the core ability reflect was needed to set off the perfect block abilities of mystic knight. I was outside Soren practicing on bandits and I was like why the fuck isn't anything happening.
Urggghhh, I've summoned like 10 mages in the rift already and every single one had Guardian as the main inclination.. Jesus, you'd think people would notice their pawns are worth shit after a while
Good thing I'm not that far into the game so the skills set don't matter that much, I really just have to take the first one who's not a guardian
e: and the first non-guardian pawn I get is a little girl lmao. Whatever, I'll take here, she only has medicant and no secondary so I hope she's worth something
Good thing I'm not that far into the game so the skills set don't matter that much, I really just have to take the first one who's not a guardian
e: and the first non-guardian pawn I get is a little girl lmao. Whatever, I'll take here, she only has medicant and no secondary so I hope she's worth something
I didn't know you could change the inclination until reading this thread. I thought it was done through the knowledge chair.
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I used a low level gafer's pawn that was a treat. Would die instantly to anything, but knew what she was doing. Now using another gafer's, name is Cherri I believe. She's quite good.
InternHertz
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Wyrm Hunt quests done in NG+. Now to clear out (once again) every sidequests and every notice bord quests before advancing the story.
I initially thought I wouldn't do it all over again but it's just so much fun that I ended up doing it. Damn OCD.
I initially thought I wouldn't do it all over again but it's just so much fun that I ended up doing it. Damn OCD.
Which really is the fault of bad game design. A single NPC that only appears after you've reached Gran Soren tucked away in the back of a dark tent in The Encampment next to the rift stone being the only means to adequately customize your pawn is a horrible idea, especially when you design the pawn commands to affect inclinations. They honestly should have had it customized the same way you assign augments.
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Haha that's mine if it's wearing the pink dress you get with Dark Arisen.
I believe those armour sets offer better stats than individual pieces? At least for a good part of your 1st playthrough.
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On one hand, I agree, on the other hand, it's the a game design that doesn't hold your hand..kinda. It has that Souls-ey feel to it where you're discovering things by accident and running to tell other players. The problem is, for latecomers it pretty much requires them to at least read all the basics on a wiki or guide.
Honestly, if I hadn't read about Madeleine's shop opening I would have no idea it's tucked all the fuckin way back in the alleys lol.
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Also, getting the gold idol is tucked away in a quest that I actually "failed" first time. Luckily I was able to restart checkpoint.
DC1
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I picked up the Papers last night an immediately went to the black cat for some instant gratification .... only to be turned away.
Good job putting my thoughts of GAF for me!
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Yes indeed. I actually stayed away from all of Black Cat's wares since I know they're dlc. I'd rather just get the regular stuff. Plus, they're expensive.
I don't mind obscurity in the right places, it's just that pawn AI is not a good fit for it. The end result is a rift full of awful pawns, which helps no one and aggravates everyone.
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Absolutely, it's integral to the basic design of the game, I agree. It's just..I dunno.. if you're a savvy gamer you just figure shit like that out, by word of mouth or research. It's dumb, yes, but we manage. I just feel bad for the gafer's with guardian wars and shit lol.
edit: It was the pawn Pantsu I was talkin about earlier. She got some hardy battle experience against chimeras and cyclops.
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I got them for free when I started Dark Arisen. They were in my storage. Not bought anything from Black Cats, as you said, they're expensive!!!
Does anyone know if escort quests expire? Massive PITA.
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Did you have a previous Dogma save? The only thing in my storage were some stones to BBI.
Escort quests do expire from the notice boards if you don't take them before certain story points, and some are dependent on whether the npc is still in the area or not.
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Yeah I did, rented it once, and never really played it. My loss back then!
While I like most of the daring game design decisions, I do agree that inclinations should be better described and more easily changed. I wish we could just go to the menu and set whatever inclinations we want them to have.
I disagree on the gambit system someone mentioned though. I really like the subtle randomness of the AI, a gambit system, while really awesome, kind of takes away the surprise aspect of the battles. You know what's going to happen and when.
I disagree on the gambit system someone mentioned though. I really like the subtle randomness of the AI, a gambit system, while really awesome, kind of takes away the surprise aspect of the battles. You know what's going to happen and when.
I completely agree.
I was a bit pissed after reading that I had to buy its inclinations. The game doesn't give you a clue about it as far as I know.
I think my pawn is a guardian, so I'm going to fix that tonight.
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My ranger is fackin insane sometimes. I know she's a pioneer, but it's crazy to see her jump on chimeras and shit before I even know what's going. She don't mess around. She's a bit too melee focused sometimes though.
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Speaking of rangers, I've maxed my strider whom I play, to go ranger or assassin now? Any opinions anyone? I'm level 24.
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My first char I went immediately to ranger since I loved the playstyle. The range of RANGEr is really good and the attacks are super powerful. However, Assassin has some crazy augments that are definitely worth grinding for if you want to work with stats a bit.
Do you want a bit of a break to go melee? Or keep up the shortbow playstyle? Assassin offers both so it's a good pick either way. If you just wanna stay super ranged, Ranger is great.
I went Assassin just 20 minutes ago just because I could use the same bow I had. If you want to get more close and personal, go Assassin. Unsurprisingly, if you like staying on the sidelines, go Ranger. IIRC Ranger has some crazy good ranged attacks, but not very good dagger skills early on. Both are really good damage dealers so it really boils down to if you want close or long range.
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I've been mostly using melee on my strider
Found the bow super weak. Most likely due to low levels.Scaling beasts with all the strider augments (and the few warrior ones I nabbed early), is definitely exhilarating, but I guess I should try more powerful ranged.
I'll try a bit of ranger, assassin seems like a more powerful melee option, which I may end up settling with, but for now, ranger it is.
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I've been mostly using melee on my strider
Scaling beasts with all the strider augments (and the few warrior ones I nabbed early), is definitely exhilarating, but I guess I should try more powerful ranged.
I'll try a bit of ranger, assassin seems like a more powerful melee option, which I may end up settling with, but for now, ranger it is.
Oh wow, then yeah, try out how good a longbow is. The only one I've seen in game is the one sold in Gran Soren, which sucks, but its still a good weap. Ranger has some good augments too that you can eventually use with your assassin if you go that route. I miss my ranger now. =(
Nobody stopping you from changing back :V
I'm thinking I'll max Assassin now, then go Ranger, then Magick Archer and then probably back to Assassin. I like going long and short range equally so it's really hard to decide which way to go. Still, Assassin first, I like being mobile and jumping around and shit.
e: decided to stock on spring water because why the hell not, it's super awesome early on. Got almost 450 flasks of it lmao.
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I'm very ocd about my builds in these games. I rerolled my first 15 hour file (the ranger) to this char (the mystic knight) instead of just switching. I'd have zero issue going back to that file except it's normal mode and this one is hard mode, which I prefer. I know, I know, I can just switch jobs whenever..but no! Not me. This char has been a lot of fun to build though because I get to play fighter and sorc for the augments, so don't worry I've had my fill of variety. I still need to get fight/sorc to rank 9 for their real augments.
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Ranger and Mystic Knight are the two classes in this game I love above all else, which is odd because everyone says I would love MA but I just can't get into MA. There is something awkward about using the Magick Bow something about a mix of its firing speed / lock on/ arrow velocity that just makes it messy. However, rangers my god the longbow is such a monster of a weapon, coupled with some amazing daggers the sheer amount of destruction a ranger can cause is amazing
On many days I swear that a Longbow + blast arrows + tenfold arrow is the strongest ability in the game. Save for Longbow + makers finger.
When you use blast arrows and your bow is enchanted does it carry into the blast arrow damage? Also I absolutely love whirling arrow on weak mobs your normal shot doesn't exactly 1 hit ko.
Even without blast arrows my ranger with 3 liquid vims can tenfold spam the offline Ur-Dragon into submission in under 8 minutes (I get him down to 3 health bars in under 3 minutes most of the time but the last 3 health bars plus the Ur-Dragon being an asshole and not holding still takes a bit longer), no crazy tricks just the class being the class
I wonder if support pawns do this. I've given two support rangers poison arrows and neither used a single one.
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Hm..I didn't know pawns, even your main one, would use arrows either. I'll give my ranger some and see what happens. I actually never got a chance to use arrows on my ranger either. What happens exactly? They're limited quantity right? Does an ammo counter show up on the ui or something? If you could just equip arrows it'd make more sense, but it's weird that they're an item.
It was really random she held them for a long time and just this one time she decided to use it. I wonder if she sees me use them more she will start to use it more as well.
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Yes they did it by reducing your depth of field , so you see a little less far away on the fields.
It make no difference in dongeons but in open fields , the frammes drop less often.
It was bearable before , now it's much better.
If you have the disc version bear in mind that the game will STILL hang on in some places because it still install things on your ps3 harddrive. But that's a one time thing.
Now , be aware that you'll see shadow pop-ups and other Npcs pop-ups much more often , breaking the immersion
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I think it depends on the inclination. A Ranger with utilitarian inclination will use Blast arrows (or other type of arrows), but a Ranger without utilitarian inclination will not (or at least not so often).
It shows in the UI how many arrows you have left.
Heh, as if the pawn banter wasn't immersion breaking enough :V
SneakyStephan
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Since I see some people are about to enter BBI and don't know if they should stay in everfall.
Here's my (detailed) advice and what I'd do in order if I were to start over at post game:
-clear all the rooms in everfall at least once
-then clear whatever rooms you want until the novelty wears off
-sell wakestones (not shards!) and save up to buy a weapon for your own vocation and for your pawn from the npc shops inside everfall if you didn't get them dropped (this is important, make sure you buy the strongest one)
-kill the wyrm and drake on the overworld (they are between the shadow fortress and the resting zone, I hope you have a teleport stone there) to dragon forge your weapons (3 star them first for a higher chance), you can also kill the wyrm and drake inside everfall for this
-respawn timer on everfall chests and drakes is 7 days I believe
-kill ur dragon once (more if you want to it's optional, I couldn't stomach it), right before he dies use the pilgrim's charm to get the double exp boost, you'll gain like 4 levels from this, his drops and loot are worth about 1.5 million gold
-save about 10 wakestones for BBI so you won't have to go back to everfall later
-you should have about 1.5 million gold now, easily
-stock up on curatives and mushrooms and the basic debuff cures (and by stock up i mean 500+ mushrooms, a good amount of curatives and 100 of the debuff ones)
You can't buy these in bbi and it saves you round trips to grand soren if you buy them in big batches
After these steps there is no reason to farm loot in everfall ad nauseum, all you need is weapons and you'll get some other bits just by doing the above.
Go to BBI
-in BBI take the board quests
-make sure you have thunder affinity and holy affinity in your group and that at least one pawn can do lots of lightning and ice damage
-chest loot and drops improve as you get further into BBI, the early areas drop terrible terrible loot , so your mission is to make it in as far as you can, not farm the early area in the hopes of finding something good.
RC drops go up ten fold once you make it past the second shortcut!
Make sure none of your pawns have guardian or nexus inclinations! especially the ones you hire!!! They'll be literally useless if they do! Scather for tanks, mitigator for the dps pawns, utilitarian for the pawn that has the elemental affinities are ideal from my experience.
Hire female caster pawns
No story spoilers but I'll spoiler tag it for those who want to figure everything out for themselves, but for those who asked for advice here it is:
Focus on these goals instead of butting your head against the minibosses and BBI will be a lot more enjoyable if you didn't play vanilla till like lvl 100 with uber everfall gear
Miniboss weaknesses if you can't seem to dent them, I'll spoiler them seperately:
Lastly: board quest gear is awesome in BBI, so make sure to pick up the board quests and you'll eventually complete them.
equip the 30str or 30 magic rings you find... you NEED the damage early on
Here's my (detailed
) advice and what I'd do in order if I were to start over at post game:-clear all the rooms in everfall at least once
-then clear whatever rooms you want until the novelty wears off
-sell wakestones (not shards!) and save up to buy a weapon for your own vocation and for your pawn from the npc shops inside everfall if you didn't get them dropped (this is important, make sure you buy the strongest one)
-kill the wyrm and drake on the overworld (they are between the shadow fortress and the resting zone, I hope you have a teleport stone there) to dragon forge your weapons (3 star them first for a higher chance), you can also kill the wyrm and drake inside everfall for this
-respawn timer on everfall chests and drakes is 7 days I believe
-kill ur dragon once (more if you want to it's optional, I couldn't stomach it), right before he dies use the pilgrim's charm to get the double exp boost, you'll gain like 4 levels from this, his drops and loot are worth about 1.5 million gold
-save about 10 wakestones for BBI so you won't have to go back to everfall later
-you should have about 1.5 million gold now, easily
-stock up on curatives and mushrooms and the basic debuff cures (and by stock up i mean 500+ mushrooms, a good amount of curatives and 100 of the debuff ones)
You can't buy these in bbi and it saves you round trips to grand soren if you buy them in big batches
After these steps there is no reason to farm loot in everfall ad nauseum, all you need is weapons and you'll get some other bits just by doing the above.
Go to BBI
-in BBI take the board quests
-make sure you have thunder affinity and holy affinity in your group and that at least one pawn can do lots of lightning and ice damage
-chest loot and drops improve as you get further into BBI, the early areas drop terrible terrible loot , so your mission is to make it in as far as you can, not farm the early area in the hopes of finding something good.
RC drops go up ten fold once you make it past the second shortcut!
Make sure none of your pawns have guardian or nexus inclinations! especially the ones you hire!!! They'll be literally useless if they do! Scather for tanks, mitigator for the dps pawns, utilitarian for the pawn that has the elemental affinities are ideal from my experience.
Hire female caster pawns
No story spoilers but I'll spoiler tag it for those who want to figure everything out for themselves, but for those who asked for advice here it is:
-as soon as you find the npc vendor inside BBI buy an ice weapon from him for you (and your pawn if you can)
You'll need to use elements a lot in BBI or you can't dent certain enemies
-try to make it to the first rest encampment in BBI, if it seems you can't dent a miniboss and you're just wasting tons of curatives you don't have to spend 25 mins killing it... Remember the bandits in early vanilla? Yeah this is like that! Just run past it and come back once you get a bit more str/magic Not being able to break the dmg treshold and doing 0 dmg is no fun at all.
You need to make it deeper into bbi, killing a miniboss does nothing but grant some inefficient exp
In the encampment GET THE BOARDQUESTS!
Also look for a moonbeam stone at the first rest encampment that you can use to open one of the doors with near the start of BBI, these have some everfall + quality items
-from there try to make it to the first shortcut, if you don't bang your head against the minibosses brick wall this won't take long
After the first shortcut you'll start to get everfall equivalent loot and some lvl 1-2 weapon and armor items that you can purify
Purifying mechanics : there's only 3 armor sets for each level of cursed gear (3 for lv.1 items, 3 for lv.2 items etc) (basically leather plate and cloth )
You'll get the items for your class or your pawn's class EVERY time, so swap to the vocation whose items you want before you purify!!
If you are sorc and your pawn is fighter you'll never purify the strider gear and you'll never purify a dagger
-try to make it deeper into bbi, you want to open the second void key door next (mark it on your map when you find it so you know where it was)
Past that door you'll start to finally get items that are way better than everfall stuff and that will give you enough damage to put a real dent into the minibosses
You'll need to use elements a lot in BBI or you can't dent certain enemies
-try to make it to the first rest encampment in BBI, if it seems you can't dent a miniboss and you're just wasting tons of curatives you don't have to spend 25 mins killing it... Remember the bandits in early vanilla? Yeah this is like that! Just run past it and come back once you get a bit more str/magic Not being able to break the dmg treshold and doing 0 dmg is no fun at all.
You need to make it deeper into bbi, killing a miniboss does nothing but grant some inefficient exp
In the encampment GET THE BOARDQUESTS!
Also look for a moonbeam stone at the first rest encampment that you can use to open one of the doors with near the start of BBI, these have some everfall + quality items
-from there try to make it to the first shortcut, if you don't bang your head against the minibosses brick wall this won't take long
After the first shortcut you'll start to get everfall equivalent loot and some lvl 1-2 weapon and armor items that you can purify
Purifying mechanics : there's only 3 armor sets for each level of cursed gear (3 for lv.1 items, 3 for lv.2 items etc) (basically leather plate and cloth )
You'll get the items for your class or your pawn's class EVERY time, so swap to the vocation whose items you want before you purify!!
If you are sorc and your pawn is fighter you'll never purify the strider gear and you'll never purify a dagger
-try to make it deeper into bbi, you want to open the second void key door next (mark it on your map when you find it so you know where it was)
Past that door you'll start to finally get items that are way better than everfall stuff and that will give you enough damage to put a real dent into the minibosses
Focus on these goals instead of butting your head against the minibosses and BBI will be a lot more enjoyable if you didn't play vanilla till like lvl 100 with uber everfall gear
Miniboss weaknesses if you can't seem to dent them, I'll spoiler them seperately:
The giant dog miniboss (name eludes me): lightning craps on it! It takes pretty much no physical dmg , only the head has slightly lower defense, if you don't bring lightning this could be frustrating
minotaurs with the big hammers: Ice affinity or spells works very well, they can be staggered easily if shot in the head which gives your casters a chance to actually cast
They have lower physical def than the dogs so if you have a decent weap you can actually do some dmg on it too
elder ogres: lightning damage, these are tough at first and will take a while to kill, make sure your caster pawns are female!! and set your tank to be a male if you can, he goes after males first most of the time
cyclopses: as always the eye is super vulnerable, otherwise you can shoot the armor plating off their knees and hit those to knock it down, I think fire dmg works well too, they aren't that hard
cursed dragons:
holy dmg, fire dmg, the heart has very high def your casters are going to have to do the work here, hitting the head will stagger it, hitting the heart hard enough will knock it down, I found ranger the easiest vocation to kill them since tenfold arrow can make him knock down quite easily
Once you can actually dent these these are great to kill, lots of exp super high chance to dragonforge armor
They look intimidating but you can actually kill them without needing tier 2 everfall weapons, they just take a while
minotaurs with the big hammers: Ice affinity or spells works very well, they can be staggered easily if shot in the head which gives your casters a chance to actually cast
They have lower physical def than the dogs so if you have a decent weap you can actually do some dmg on it too
elder ogres: lightning damage, these are tough at first and will take a while to kill, make sure your caster pawns are female!! and set your tank to be a male if you can, he goes after males first most of the time
cyclopses: as always the eye is super vulnerable, otherwise you can shoot the armor plating off their knees and hit those to knock it down, I think fire dmg works well too, they aren't that hard
cursed dragons:
holy dmg, fire dmg, the heart has very high def your casters are going to have to do the work here, hitting the head will stagger it, hitting the heart hard enough will knock it down, I found ranger the easiest vocation to kill them since tenfold arrow can make him knock down quite easily
Once you can actually dent these these are great to kill, lots of exp super high chance to dragonforge armor
They look intimidating but you can actually kill them without needing tier 2 everfall weapons, they just take a while
Lastly: board quest gear is awesome in BBI, so make sure to pick up the board quests and you'll eventually complete them.
equip the 30str or 30 magic rings you find... you NEED the damage early on
Audioboxer
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Yeah when mine started mining with a pickaxe she had found herself I was like... ooooo... daaaaamn.
TheIconizer
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@ #5289: Thanks for the info man. This helped a lot in preparation.
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For me (digital version) the framerate only dips when the game is getting pawns from online and it shows the accessing server logo. Otherwise it's been pretty good. Also, I love the pawn banter. I dunno wtf you guys were complaining about. They had some great flavor sometimes, like about the view or about the history behind an era.
I feel like this is some weird quoting style people use on "other" sites. We're civilized here, just hit the quote button, mang.
@ #5289: Thanks for the info man. This helped a lot in preparation.
I feel like this is some weird quoting style people use on "other" sites. We're civilized here, just hit the quote button, mang.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Wait until you are 100 hours in
Hearing the same phrases over and over will start to do your head in.
Also did they change composer for the expansion?
The battle theme and boss theme are terrible in BBI, the vanilla game had nothing but amazingly well composed adventure type songs that never got old, but the repetitive simplistic battle music that starts playing (and then stops playing 10sec later as the mob dies only to start over the next time) is giving me a headache.
Deified Data
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I like this set-up, mine's pretty similar except I keep Ingle around over Voidspell in case I need to snipe something manually. I only break out voidspell when I know I'm going to need it. Miasma is totally the sorcerer's hidden WMD, behind holy focused bolt.
And yeah, Seism is trash. I don't care for Bolide, either, outside of the initial spectacle.
SneakyStephan
Banned
@ #5289: Thanks for the info man. This helped a lot in preparation.
I forgot , put the game in offline mode in options before you go to UR dragon, he has an offline and an online mode, the only mode seems to only die once a week or some shit.
You guys do know what you pawn's inclinations changes based on your actions (as well as the actions of those people who hired your pawn) right?
There's a shitload of guardian pawns because lots of players keep spamming the "come" command. If you want scather, use "go" when enemies appear and lead by example by tackling the hard enemies.
Deified Data
Banned
Whoever owns Hrist, be sure to change her inclination to anything but guardian!
SneakyStephan
Banned
Guys if you have a caster pawn, for the love of god focus on augments that help you get casts off.
I see too few sorcerers with the reduced knockdown chance while casting and with the augment that prevents you from being staggered by winds (wing flaps of any of the flying bosses)
This is the flaw in the system
the commands should be to make your pawns behave outside of their inclinations when it's needed ( when my sorc is standing with his back to a cliff casting mealstorm, and an elder ogre turns towards him I'm going to have to press come or I can waste 15 mins of my life resummoning him and putting the right curatives on him again), if I'm grabbed by an ogre or dragon or mimic I need that help button to get them to free me.
I don't need them to forget their main job (going after the big monsters or buffing) just because I need them to act outside of those parameters now and then.
Instead of giving you some control over the AI the game punishes you for it.
I see too few sorcerers with the reduced knockdown chance while casting and with the augment that prevents you from being staggered by winds (wing flaps of any of the flying bosses)
This is the flaw in the system
the commands should be to make your pawns behave outside of their inclinations when it's needed ( when my sorc is standing with his back to a cliff casting mealstorm, and an elder ogre turns towards him I'm going to have to press come or I can waste 15 mins of my life resummoning him and putting the right curatives on him again), if I'm grabbed by an ogre or dragon or mimic I need that help button to get them to free me.
I don't need them to forget their main job (going after the big monsters or buffing) just because I need them to act outside of those parameters now and then.
Instead of giving you some control over the AI the game punishes you for it.
Come does that? Shame, gotta stop using it then. Okay admittedly, I don't even know what come command exactly does, I just spam it when the pawns seem to lag behind.
The game should probably tell you when your pawns inclination changes. Mine lost acquisitor for apparently no reason a while back.