RyanardoDaVinci
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If you have portcrystals in the right places, the main quest line takes 2-3hrs.
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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unholyrevenger72
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The fastest unconfirmed time is 16 minutes
Yeah, on my third playthrough (after I was done with the trophies) I finished the whole thing in just a few hours, and that was with poorly placed crystals.
There is a lot of random ways to cut time off like not doing all the wyrmhunt quests or for example the story quest where you fight the griffin if you kill it before it takes off to head to the bluemoon tower the quest just ends there. Pretty neat. Main story is really short regardless.
zerokoolpsx
Member
If I do the speedrun in the middle of my 3rd playthrough, does it overwrite my gamesave? I watched how the guy placed his portcrystals and I got more than enough blast arrows to take down anything with conqueror periapts. I still got the Maker's finger just sitting in my inventory with the Dragon's name on it.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
My favorite is just falling to your death in the everfall or using skull splitter.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Ironically I tried that. If you have 4.3k hp, you will survive the fall. My arisen barely survived and I carried several wakestones just in case. Well, on my speedrun, I tested out Skullsplitter from that height too. No damage. It was fun just spinning all the way down haha.
Finished it in 39:20. I accidentally killed an npc so wasted 30 seconds in jail. No skeleton keys. Also didn't have cutting wind on my arisen, so I just ran to the encampment.
The AI at the end got retarded. My pawn kept shooting arrows instead of grabbing the last boss. Wasted like a minute there. Had to tell her to go.
Never used the maker's finger so I never noticed these white tendrils coming out of it. Got the forest tunic and caretaker's garb. Randomly started buying glasses from Jonathon.
My difficulty got set to Normal after the speed run. Oh well, no biggie.
Currently waiting out in the darkness, not moving til day breaks. Trying to escort this ser berne and ran into a nasty manticore and giant troll. Amazing battles but in the middle of no fucking clue and no way to get to civilizaton yet. It sucks and yet is awesome. I appreciate that
Anyone have any tips on how to beat
as a Mystic Knight? I can dispatch the first one quick enough, but the second one does absolutely brutal damage on me.
The triple High Comestion is basically a OHKO if I'm caught by it (in the middle of a move or falling off him)
After he's rid of my pawns he starts casting Seism+Grand Bolide until it kills me.
His Immolation-type move also nearly kills me, and jumping off to avoid it just sets me up for Grand Comestion.
I also don't know what his weak point is. Is it the face on the front? I attack that and his health barely moves.
Daimon's second form
The triple High Comestion is basically a OHKO if I'm caught by it (in the middle of a move or falling off him)
After he's rid of my pawns he starts casting Seism+Grand Bolide until it kills me.
His Immolation-type move also nearly kills me, and jumping off to avoid it just sets me up for Grand Comestion.
I also don't know what his weak point is. Is it the face on the front? I attack that and his health barely moves.
zerokoolpsx
Member
His face on his chest and his head is vulnerable. Grab adhesion and opportunism and just grab him. Wail his chest unless he starts spraying that one long beam attack. Use 4 conqueror periapts and bring some healing and stamina curatives. With adhesion, you can sometimes withstand the immolation attack only if you stop attacking. Keep wailing on him and heal through the damage from Grand Levin and Immolation. You can stagger him if a lot of damage is dealt. Keep attacking him through the rift attack and heal your stamina. Once he staggers from the rift attack, beat on him until he's dead.
For me, the most lethal move is his Grand Levin. It really hurts when he cast two of them and most of the lightning bolts hit me.
Man, you have no idea how thankful I am right now. I dispatched him pretty easily once I read your advice, and yeah Grand Levin is brutal. He casts it quick, it strikes quickly, it hits multiple times, and it does a ton of damage.
One of the most invaluable parts was knowing to jump on and wail on him when he does the vortex thing. Staggering him out of that and then the huge amounts of damage when he crumpled was critical.
Yeah, warrior really gets the shaft there, one of the things I don't like about them. I don't feel like their movepool is interesting enough for 6 sword abilities though, honestly wish they'd just given them a secondary weapon of some sort that the other classes don't have.
I would like to have battlecry, shooting allies up with my sword in addition to the spin attack, charge attack and deathblow skill. And since there is no blocking with the sword at some penalty, would've been nice to have a roll.
Maybe Deep Down will consider these things because I like how meaty attacks are and how hard I can hit people, especially since I accidentally ran into a quest that netted me the Gryphic Victory
Maybe Deep Down will consider these things because I like how meaty attacks are and how hard I can hit people, especially since I accidentally ran into a quest that netted me the Gryphic Victory
Sadly I get the feeling Deep Down isn't going to be very similar to Dogma in terms of gameplay, but, I'd love to be wrong.
Just crossing my fingers for a Dragon's Dogma 2 some day.
Man, has anyone done all the Notice Board quests in this game? They're all just boring so I'm not even bothering anymore. I'm in post game now and trying to get the 20 Wakestones ASAP. After that I'll move on to New Game+, beat it quickly, then do all of Everfall and BBI.
I typically just grabbed them all (minus escorts) and if I finished them while doing other stuff great, if not, oh well.
Yeah BBI is amazing, though, they re-use rooms a lot so that is kind of depressing the deeper you go. I don't think I like it more than Gransys on the whole, but, I have a soft spot for the type of the world they are going for (only humans, kind of medieval but still magical elements. I assume that is some specific brand of fantasy but fuck if I know the name or even care).
I actually started my 4th NG+ the other day because I was sick of post-game Gransys. I'm not really a fan of it in general because I feel like it ruins the atmosphere of the world. Day time was awesome because the draw distance in the game let you see the entire map from clifftops and such, and, night time was so dark that it at least felt dangerous (even if it wasn't once you were strong enough) and the lighting from the lanterns made just walking around look incredible.
I noticed a few reused rooms. I don't think it's that big of a deal.
If they made a Dragon's Dogma 2, I doubt they would get rid of the standard fantasy setting, but it would be awesome if a big part of the world was like BBI.
Also I thought the weird yellow post-game sky was pretty cool. The regular sky is nice but I like the post-game atmosphere; it seems more oppressive. The clouds racing by fast is a cool touch too.
Anyway, does anyone have level 200 (or other high level pawns) I could use? My PSN is KirolosF. I want to grind some levels on Ur Dragon. If you have any spare BBI lvl 2 or 3 armor or lvl 3 weapons that'd be nice as well, if you use my pawn Calista (who's lvl 71 or 72 right now).
I didn't mind the post-game world that much at first (especially since they add enemies to the world) but I just really wanted a change of pace after spending however many hours I have in it lol.
Also if they do make a DD2 I hope there is something like BBI in from the start. I have to say I am not sure I would have enjoyed the game as much if I would have just had the base game. I mean, I did all the quests and had fun, but, I am a huge fan of long and challenging dungeons to test your skill at the end of the games, which BBI pulls off really well. I found Everfall kind of lackluster, and that was even before I did BBI.
I'll send you a friend request when I get back online, I have a 200 sorcerer with mostly the best gear. I think I still have some cursed items I can toss your way as well.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Wouldn't mind if they let pawns be hybrid vocations in DD2. They need to buff warriors overall too. Everfall is a joke compared to BBI. I'll send an invite too. I got a level 200 Ranger with the best gear. I can switch her to Fighter as well.
I tried to hire your pawn but wasn't able to. Do you have your settings set to offline?
Also, thanks for the RCs, cursed gear, and 5 stars Zenax
I tried to hire your pawn but wasn't able to. Do you have your settings set to offline?
Also, thanks for the RCs, cursed gear, and 5 stars Zenax
How much RC did you get from it anyway? I did a full clear of BBI with double xp the entire way.
300k+. Don't know the exact number.
Also, got 2 Framae Blades and a Bitterwing Bow, hell yeah!
Now I just need to collect the Trophy set for my Arisen and Oblivion for my pawn.zerokoolpsx
Member
Nope. It shouldn't be. I usually have it online all the time. Will check when I get home.I tried to hire your pawn but wasn't able to. Do you have your settings set to offline?
Also, thanks for the RCs, cursed gear, and 5 stars Zenax
I see your pawn now.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Set my difficulty back to Hard after beating the game on normal. Roll off the Everfall and took 4415 fall damage. My arisen lives with 6 hp rofl. On my 3rd NG+. Normal just didn't give enough exp.
Yeah I went ahead and bumped my difficulty up to hard on my new play through in hopes of giving people more RC. Can't even tell a difference at level 200 to be honest. I thought staggering enemies was supposed to be harder, but, apparently ricochet hunter doesn't give a fuck, kept Death on the ground the entire first time I ran into him again.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Wait till you have to fight One Drake + One Wyrm + Death or Three Drakes at the same time + Death, hahaha.
Fights like 3 Drakes at the same time makes a pair of Wanderlust Ring almost an absolute necessity.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Death is a nuisance. He just kills my pawns and vanishes. Well, I purified some BBI lvl 3 gear and got a master ring that is near perfect on magic. Boots magic by 98 and silence resist by 87. Wanted the strength version for my pawn. Guess I'll wear it on my magick archer from time to time.
Since I never use ninefold bolt on Daimon runs I decided to switch it out and I grabbed greater bracer arrow. Maybe it was just dumb luck, but, I did 5 Daimon runs and with bracer up his levin did not knock me off him a single time. I'm going to keep rolling with it for a while I think when I do him.
Also I noticed in the history thing there is a kill log that tells you how many times you've killed each enemy. Apparently I've done Daimon 95 times. I'm kinda curious what your count is zero, I imagine it's some horrifyingly large number.
Oh also speaking of multiple drakes. I still think 2 frost drakes at once is the fucking hardest thing in this game. Just an explosion of spells everywhere. When they both cast bolide at the same time I fear for my pawns lives.
Also I noticed in the history thing there is a kill log that tells you how many times you've killed each enemy. Apparently I've done Daimon 95 times. I'm kinda curious what your count is zero, I imagine it's some horrifyingly large number.
Oh also speaking of multiple drakes. I still think 2 frost drakes at once is the fucking hardest thing in this game. Just an explosion of spells everywhere. When they both cast bolide at the same time I fear for my pawns lives.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Frost Wyrms, even two of them at the same time, are laughably easy with Magick Archer's Explosive Volley. Just bombard them with the skill on the area around their chest and hit it, it will stagger-stunlock the bastard to oblivion--you don't even have to climb one it. Just shoot, hit, repeat.
I was honestly rather shocked myself on how easy the battle against 2 Frost Wyrms went, hahaha.
Now.... 3 drakes on the other hand, are so bloody annoying, because they just roar roar roar roar roar roar roar and 1-hit kill the pawns over and over and over and over and over and over :\
zerokoolpsx
Member
In my history, I killed Daimon 216 times. On this run, I decided to wear Carrion Gear on my Magick Archer and dragonforged it along the way. His High/Grand Levin knocked me off. Never happened to me with my Oblivion set. I jumped right back on him then he used immolation. T_T
Got the Carrion set gold dragonforged.
2 Frost Drakes are easy. I have a lot of trouble with 2 Drakes. Every Dire Drake is so resilient to my attacks.
That is a lot of kills, so crazy.
I actually don't mind the fire drakes that much, they don't really do much that knocks you off their chest and I've gotten good about getting on there quickly. I still occasionally get frozen when I'm on frost drakes, though, which is really annoying. I'm in full oblivion stuff (minus gloves cause my RNG is the worst) and a hellfire cloak now though, so my ice resist is something like 65%, maybe it won't be as annoying going forward.
Thanks for the stuff zero.
Made it to the city before Daimon on my second run of BBI. Had to run from the two drakes in the room before lol. I noticed a Living Armor and and a wyvern overheard and just decided to close the game. I heard Daimon V2 can be tough even on lvl 200 (I'm like 105 now) but I think I'll try fighting him anyway.
What's the fastest way to get to lvl 200 as a Sorceror on Normal? I guess Ur Dragon, Daimon, or Death? My only attack that does reliable damage is the one that creates a long ice spike. Pawns do decent against enemies but it's still slow. I haven't been able to do a whole lot with taking HP off Death so I don't know if he's an option yet (though I haven't tried stacking periapts).
Made it to the city before Daimon on my second run of BBI. Had to run from the two drakes in the room before lol. I noticed a Living Armor and and a wyvern overheard and just decided to close the game. I heard Daimon V2 can be tough even on lvl 200 (I'm like 105 now) but I think I'll try fighting him anyway.
What's the fastest way to get to lvl 200 as a Sorceror on Normal? I guess Ur Dragon, Daimon, or Death? My only attack that does reliable damage is the one that creates a long ice spike. Pawns do decent against enemies but it's still slow. I haven't been able to do a whole lot with taking HP off Death so I don't know if he's an option yet (though I haven't tried stacking periapts).
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
There is literally no place better to level up than BBI. Try bringing weaker pawns with you, since it will boost your EXP gain compared to when you carry pawns of similar level or higher. Even though they're mostly gonna be useless, at the very least the enemies has another punching bag to target and you gain more EXP, ahahahaha.
Death is too unreliable for level ups. UR dragon offline is alright, although it would be best to use him to level up on NG plus since you can just use the stone in Cassardis to fight him.
Really, the best tips for levelling up is just... go through BBI over and over again, hahaha.
Also, if you haven't figured it out already, Focused Bolt is most probably Sorcerer's best offensive arsenal, so make use of it.
zerokoolpsx
Member
No problem.
Bring a Blessed Flower if you have a spare. Low level pawns will work like Laughing Banana said. You can go solo with no pawns. Most exp, but I wouldn't recommend it. Death has too much hp unless you can stagger him repeatedly. Offline Ur is doable. Use Veteran's Periapt for the exp boost. Same thing with Daimon. If you don't have a Blessed Flower, use Veteran's Periapt before he dies to get double the exp.
I have a lot of Blessed Flowers in my storage if you need one. Been making forgeries of them when I'm resting for a few days between Daimon runs.
I had a Blessed Flower but I looked in my storage once I started NG+ and it disappeared. I don't know what I did with it.
I can use a few, though they only last a day right? And forgeries are like 100k+. Does time pass in BBI the same way as Gransys?
Right now I'll try getting to rank 9 as a Sorceror then do some BBI runs.
I can use a few, though they only last a day right? And forgeries are like 100k+. Does time pass in BBI the same way as Gransys?
Right now I'll try getting to rank 9 as a Sorceror then do some BBI runs.
You should be getting close to a point where gold is irrelevant for you, so it won't matter too much. If you have the RC to spare just purify every level 2 armor and weapon and vendor them. I have something like 35 million gold at the moment, but, I could easily reach the cap if I purified the like 50 level 2 weapons I have sitting in my bank.
Blessed flower is probably better overall since it does last a full in-game day but I just use veteran periapts myself because you can buy them in bulk from Fournival post-game. It's more expensive then just making forgeries of the flower, but, less of a wait since you can buy hundreds at once. The forgery system annoys me since as far as I can tell you can't make things in bulk.
If you guys have any armor lvl 3 that you don't want that you can give me that'd be cool. Trying to get the Oblivion armor set for my pawn. I might mix and match some Trophy pieces though so any lvl 2 armor would be cool too (noticed you guys already gave me some; none of them were Trophy armor though lol :x).
But yeah, lvl 2 and 3 armor is what I mainly want now.
But yeah, lvl 2 and 3 armor is what I mainly want now.
theMrCravens
Member
Man, the dragon fight was pretty epic.
Although now I don't understand if I've finished the game or not.
Seemed like I got an ending, but it keeps going.
Is this post-game for random loot ?
Although now I don't understand if I've finished the game or not.
Seemed like I got an ending, but it keeps going.
Find 20 wakestone. what ?
It's a little of both. Without BBI it serves as the endgame to get some loot, but, collecting the 20 wakestones will lead to the "real" ending and will take you to NG+.
It's been a while but IIRC I started BBI around the mid 70's. Even still though, it was pretty challenging and I think I died on every boss (except for the first major boss) at least once. Honestly though gear is far more important than your level, you should head back to gran soren and make sure you have the best gear you can afford, especially weapons.
Also if you didn't mix up your vocations much over the game you should do that now for you and your pawn as you will want the best augments for your play style.
theMrCravens
Member
I feel soiled.
Had to use a guide to know what to do at the very end.
Anyway, thanks all who friended me for your awesome pawns.
My minor complaint with the game is all the walking around with the lack of portcrystals at first.
I can tolerate open environment sightseeing in MMOs, but in singleplayer games it gets tedious.
Had to use a guide to know what to do at the very end.
Suicide!
Anyway, thanks all who friended me for your awesome pawns.
My minor complaint with the game is all the walking around with the lack of portcrystals at first.
I can tolerate open environment sightseeing in MMOs, but in singleplayer games it gets tedious.
zerokoolpsx
Member
That I wanted. Pawn and Arisen both have their own set for all the vocations. Not sure if I want to get Carrion boots with faster speed while casting spells or prevents winds from hampering my mobility if I ever get an inexplicable urge to play a mage or sorcerer. Got the increase maximum item capacity across all 3 sets for both of them.
Maybe I'll hunt the Ur-Dragon when its close to Grace Period or farm some BBI lvl 3 Gear.
Maybe I'll hunt the Ur-Dragon when its close to Grace Period or farm some BBI lvl 3 Gear.