Confused Cheeseburger
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen |OT| deep down darkness
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Lumpy Onion
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Oh man, I was so excited about playing last night and I spent most of my time in the character creator. Seriously the best character creator I have seen in a game. Way too many good combinations of cool looking faces and other features, compared to the neandrethols these editors usually leave you with (love Dark Souls but..). Nice to see different skin tones added since vanilla DD. Gonna create an ash skinned beast of a man called "Golem".
I also realize I am going to go crazy finding perfect shots for photo mode. This one is so much better than the first ones.
I also realize I am going to go crazy finding perfect shots for photo mode. This one is so much better than the first ones.
cleveridea
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in DD was magick archer
if I go almost pure assissin, is the weak defense gonna limit me in the expansion content or are their HP enough to make it without worrying about a more rounded character?
if I go almost pure assissin, is the weak defense gonna limit me in the expansion content or are their HP enough to make it without worrying about a more rounded character?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Well Magick Archer scales off Magick for main stat damage, which is something you already got tons of with augments for sorc I think. Mean while the only relevant augs I got are like...health and defense? I guess that augment that makes you take 50% less damage while charging abilities will help out a ton.
While I agree the Dark Souls editor is not as good, and I agree that the default choices are generally odd/ugly looking, I DO manage to make good looking faces (IMO, anyway) using it.
here's two of my dark souls chars:
Lumpy Onion
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That's actually pretty nice. I guess I never really bothered much because I assumed I would be helmeted throughout the majority of the game. Either that or I would look like a beef jerkied hollow most of the time anyway.
Jake Tower
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The 'Necro Dragon' probably thinks he has me cornered down a stairwell.
I HAVE THE UPPER HAND!
I HAVE THE UPPER HAND!
SloaneRisette
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Hey guys, what would be better, the Paladin Mantle, or giving my Sorcerer pawn the Wyrmking's Ring?
SloaneRisette
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Right, can't believe I blanked on that, lol. Thanks for the reminder!
HalfBakedProphet
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I love playing as the melee classes in this game but i swear I feel totally helpless sometimes. Having no distance attacks really stings against certain enemies. That said, I also straight murder Dragons of all shapes and sizes (Dragon Maw, mother fuckers!) so it has it's upsides, too. I've dropped having another fighter or warrior with me and I'm rolling Mage, Sorcerer and Ranger. It's a good combo.
Finally finished my World Civ paper, I'm going to marathon this shit when I get home. FINALLY!
Finally finished my World Civ paper, I'm going to marathon this shit when I get home. FINALLY!
endlessflood
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That video I linked suggests using a Ferrystone to get out, but with right timing even that isn't necessary.
Oxnard Montalvo
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Why is this not available from gamefly? UGH!
thetrin
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Shit, I didn't know this worked (just started playing). I'll just do that for escort quests, because fuck them.
Can't believe I'm dignifying this by asking about it, but I have a friend who tries to compare Dragon's Dogma and Dark Souls on a daily basis. He discovered that he gets a rise out of me so he does it more, because I -- as always -- Defend truth.
The similarities, to me, begin and end with the fact that both games are generally challenging and both games have their own innovative asynchronous multiplayer. Similarities other than that are incidental and superficial (both games have swords, that kind of thing).
DD is a game with an open overworld, speckled with dungeons and mines and caves, more similar to Skyrim. DD has a party and classes. In DD, the challenge comes from stats, levels, gear, and party composition, whereas the moment to moment combat is much faster, busier, and with more flailing and at times button mashing (if you want).
In Dark Souls, it's solitary, slow, deliberate, no classes, no AI companions, stats don't matter as much, and you live or die by your next swing. One wrong move and you're dead. In DD, even if you WANT to die it can take a while because the action is so hectic and your party so busy.
Right now, I'm doing an escort quest across the overworld. The battles are chaotic with many participants. It's never more striking how differnet this game is from Dark Souls than now, but my friend still insists the games are highly similar.
I'm getting sick of arguing this. Can someone else tell him to shut the fuck up for me and I'll link him.
The similarities, to me, begin and end with the fact that both games are generally challenging and both games have their own innovative asynchronous multiplayer. Similarities other than that are incidental and superficial (both games have swords, that kind of thing).
DD is a game with an open overworld, speckled with dungeons and mines and caves, more similar to Skyrim. DD has a party and classes. In DD, the challenge comes from stats, levels, gear, and party composition, whereas the moment to moment combat is much faster, busier, and with more flailing and at times button mashing (if you want).
In Dark Souls, it's solitary, slow, deliberate, no classes, no AI companions, stats don't matter as much, and you live or die by your next swing. One wrong move and you're dead. In DD, even if you WANT to die it can take a while because the action is so hectic and your party so busy.
Right now, I'm doing an escort quest across the overworld. The battles are chaotic with many participants. It's never more striking how differnet this game is from Dark Souls than now, but my friend still insists the games are highly similar.
I'm getting sick of arguing this. Can someone else tell him to shut the fuck up for me and I'll link him.
HalfBakedProphet
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Who cares? You just admitted he argues to get a rise out of you. Its pretty subjective anyway, even with the stark difference between the two
Let's put it this way. Is there anyone here who thinks these two games are highly similar and deserve being mentioned together?
Is there an actual question here? The games are highly similar in many ways. Theres only a few key differences.
DD - Emphasizes D&D style openworld/dungeon exploration, adeventuring, classic rpg tropes; combat takes longer and is more based on planning and strategy than on execution; more story , less lore
DS - Emphasizes isolation, despair, and exploration; combat is quicker, you win or lose fights much faster and focuses on execution; less story, more lore
Right, but if you use that narrow sphere to compare them, then we necessarily must also include all other fantasy rpgs, like fable or elder scrolls, whereas my friend is specifically targetting DS and DD as being the same game.
Lumpy Onion
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Yes I do. I find them thematically similar. In another thread I called the game a love child between Elderscrolls and Dark Souls. Dunno why you should get upset at people finding similarities between the two.
you guys are killing me.
Unrelated, since I've been playing DDDA these past couple days, I've noticed no one has yet rented my pawn. Back in 2012 when I played the game the first time around, I was having my pawn rented endlessly throughout my levels.
Because you're not asking a real question. No clear definition of anything, then when someone responds you shift definitons , its a completely stupid argument. DD and DS are similar. They are more similar than DS and Mario Kart are. I can't think of any games besides Demon Souls / Kings Fields that are more similar to Dark Souls than DD.
I have no understanding how pawn renting works. When I loaded my save in DA I had a shit ton of rents, but they were all corrupted and I got no RC. Yet I somehow already had 1.3 million from what I have no idea.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Fuck me after watching the ranger gameplay vids..I think I'm gonna do that. Ranged looks great in this game. Not to mention the first board quest was to kill two seabirds, which was IMPOSSIBLE as a warrior. Well, I killed one, but the birds are so god damned small on screen it was really strange.
HalfBakedProphet
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People are going to make connections to games that are fresh in their mind. Dragon's Dogma really is a blend of lots of different game types.
I get a lot of Devil May Cry vibes from certain aspects (for good reason, given the development team). Blitz strike is just Stinger from DMC with a different name
I get a lot of Devil May Cry vibes from certain aspects (for good reason, given the development team). Blitz strike is just Stinger from DMC with a different name
Capcom does this a lot. Some things from Street Fighter are present in MH. Some things from MH (well actually, a lot) are present in Dogma.
Dogma is like all of Capcom's action games and Elder Scrolls having a baby.
Jake Tower
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throw knife to kill birds
Deified Data
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Unless the category is "great Japanese action RPGs", not really.
I don't find it offensive to compare one to the other unless it's derogatory, i.e. "Dogma is a Souls rip-off", which anyone who's ever played both could tell you is false.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
did not even know you can throw shit..other than stuff you pick up
Not Spaceghost
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That...is fantastic advice. Thank you sir.
Dick Justice
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I have to say, the framerate is generally far better than I expected it to be. The adventure demo of the original game and the JP Dark Arisen demo all ran incredibly sluggishly. It's still not perfect, but definitely an improvement.
I'm an expert
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Yeah..restarted as a Strider and now I think the game has clicked for me. Fighter seemed a bit off.. I know that for min/maxing it's best to do fighter anyway but I really like this ranged gameplay.
One thing to keep in mind about leveling up as strider is its comparatively odd stat growths. It grows magic attack as well as the regular physical stuff. Most/all other classes only grow stuff that they specifically need.
so strider may grow into a mystic knight or somethign pretty well, generally speaking I think the stat growths are not very min/max.
The other argument is "F it, play to have fun, who cares about min max", and that's a fine argument. I mention this just for what it's worth.
You know, I tele'd back to the main city after beating the quest there and immediately thought, "I probably should've used the port crystal there."
Maybe I'll make my way back there tonight with my archer.
I put my first port crystal on the ledge at the witchwood exit. This gave you access to witchwood, cassardis and the encampment. Although with DA out now, it isn't as effective now that you can teleport to cassardis.
Also, I'm not sure where you're at right now but there will be quest that will create a shortcut to the Shadowfort.
this is true later on but in the early game you can go back to shadowfort for 2 escort quests (each with great rewards!) and then come back again for the shadowfort itself. so if you just came to the city and did the main quest there and got the portocrystal, it's logical to right away escort berne to shadowfort, drop the crystal, and then you have TP for the following times you need to go there.
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I definitely took it into consideration, but you're able to switch to ranger fairly early right? So I basically wanted to get used to the bow playstyle first and then go right to ranger. I'm not really in the mood to play some melee, some hybrid, and then finally the class I want. Though I assume if I do strider->ranger I will set myself up decently if I try the magic archer. Much thanks for the advice though.
So I just saved Reynard being attacked by goblins and yeah..I dispatched them without an issue as ranger. As fighter I was fumbling around. This just definitely suits my playstyle more. It feels like the archer from Amalur.
Sorry, i left out the new functionality of the RCs in my statement cause i figured he's not going to BBI anytime soon. Its a good thing I horded them from the first game, cause I'll be using them in DA a lot.
Sorry, bad choice of words, I meant reset the game. But like someone else said, you might have bought from the wrong shop. I believe the game is 100% doable without using them though, I don't remember really using them at all. For potions, learn how to combine herbs and other things to make your own. The game is great!
You want fighter at level five for the sinew augment, which lets you carry a lot more weight while staying very light. In combination with strider's leg-strength augment, you get access to a hidden ultra-light encumbrance resulting in the fastest movement speed, fastest stamina regen, and lowest stamina consumption rate in the game relative to your character size.