Sinthor
Gold Member
I agree, particle density sucks! Devs obviously don't know how to take advantage of te power of the PS4. Otherwise you'd GET your "undriveable condtions" in spades! Devs must be paid by M$!!
/sarcasm and stupidity OFF
DRIVECLUB: 30 minutes of new Beta footage
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I agree, particle density sucks! Devs obviously don't know how to take advantage of te power of the PS4. Otherwise you'd GET your "undriveable condtions" in spades! Devs must be paid by M$!!
/sarcasm and stupidity OFF
bububu that's how it looks in real life
TimeEffect
Member
I hope they do preload Driveclub on future PS4s. Easy money, right?
I used to think the same for when Planetside 2 releases. It just makes sense.
Also, that FB thing is EU only right?
I used to think the same for when Planetside 2 releases. It just makes sense.
Also, that FB thing is EU only right?
viveks86
Member
mangochutney
Member
The only thing I've seen in UK is the FIFA15 branded ad. Previously a Halo themed reel, and the Titanfall one previous to that.
mangochutney
Member
Watch Sky News, I have it on 24/7 and there is often an Xbox ad to be seen. Mainly Forza at the moment, previous to that it was the generic one with all teh gaemz.
Trophy list: http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/2924-DRIVECLUB
DLC Trophy Pack 1 (DRIVECLUB Tour) is not really a DLC pack, it's just the trophies of the full game not able to be unlocked in the PS+ Edition, so they have been put on a separate list. That way the PS+ Edition can get the platinum.
DLC Trophy Pack 1 (DRIVECLUB Tour) is not really a DLC pack, it's just the trophies of the full game not able to be unlocked in the PS+ Edition, so they have been put on a separate list. That way the PS+ Edition can get the platinum.
I watch ITV1/2, C4, C5. I've only seen the Halo themed ad and the FIFA15 once.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I agree, particle density sucks! Devs obviously don't know how to take advantage of te power of the PS4. Otherwise you'd GET your "undriveable condtions" in spades! Devs must be paid by M$!!
/sarcasm and stupidity OFF
That was unnecessary.
Why?
mangochutney
Member
I have two TVs. One for my usual viewings and gaming, then the other is permanently on in the background on Sky News unless I want to game and have the football on as well or something.
Provides some background noise and if the world blows up I'll be at the front of the queue to Mars.
viveks86
Member
TimeEffect
Member
Trophies look easy. Nothing seems ridiculous. Getting in the top 3 without penalties like collisions seems like the hardest one.
So, the PS+ edition doesn't have the world tour/campaign mode?
So, the PS+ edition doesn't have the world tour/campaign mode?
It does, but obviously only the India events.
TimeEffect
Member
Oh, right!
Wouldn't locking the platinum to the full version be a good way to get people to upgrade though?
I find the whole PS+ thing really interesting.
Hopefully people feel strongly enough to want to upgrade to more tracks and cars. It sounds risky to do it the way they are doing, but I guess the potential number of users to try the demo is bigger.
I hope it works out for Evolution. Presumably Sony pays them like they do for any other PS+ download, but since they are first party, doesn't that mean Sony loses some money?
I also wonder if we'll see this for future games. Killzone and Uncharted have operated under F2P structures, but Driveclub is doing something I'd never expect other high profile games to do.
Sony also does those 1 hour trials, and I'm sure PS Now will eventually make offers like this more common, where one can more immediately get access to a game. It sounds like really smart demoing/advertising, without running huge bills for tv spots.
I remember when Wipeout had ads in their loading screen. I used to wonder why more games wouldn't offer lower prices with ads like this put into sensible places in a game... sort of like how Amazon has a $20 reduced version of their ereaders, but with ads.
NotSmartEnough
Member
Sorry if this has already been asked/answered:
The UK PSN store is showing the 'PS+ edition full game upgrade' available to pre-order for £34.99.
I've got the disk pre-ordered from Amazon for £49 currently (though I guess this is probably a placeholder price).
What's the difference? I've got PS+, and the digital upgrade comes with some extra cars and a 'fame points multiplier'.
Seems like a no-brainer, but it also seems too good to be true.
EDIT: nvm, answered in the other thread.
The UK PSN store is showing the 'PS+ edition full game upgrade' available to pre-order for £34.99.
I've got the disk pre-ordered from Amazon for £49 currently (though I guess this is probably a placeholder price).
What's the difference? I've got PS+, and the digital upgrade comes with some extra cars and a 'fame points multiplier'.
Seems like a no-brainer, but it also seems too good to be true.
EDIT: nvm, answered in the other thread.
viveks86
Member
Yup. But such a small percentage of people actually platinum any game. It isn't worth the loss of goodwill. This makes them look less greedy, which is a win-win for everyone.
Agreed
Yes. Evo gets paid by Sony like an employer pays an employee. They probably have bonuses linked to amount of sales though. In any case, Sony does lose some money, in the hope of gaining a captive audience
All depends on to what extent this game succeeds. Would be interesting to see others follow in its footsteps if it does well. Seems pretty consumer friendly.
Particularly when (at least for the UK) the digital upgrade version is being priced well below the retail MSRP. If I were a store paying to stock it, I'd be a little put off by that.
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah, I mean I normally always go physical because I like actually owning my games, but there's no way I'm passing up a $20 discount on this game for going digital.
TimeEffect
Member
It's too bad PSN doesn't track download numbers, though I guess no other company does that either
The "likes" for the PS+ version are probably tied to the upgraded version too, so there really wont be a way to tell, unless we look at leaderboards for non-India maps
TimeEffect
Member
Here in Canada, Driveclub would be $80 total.
EIGHTY!
PSN doesn't charge for taxes. I am spending $30 less should I get it on PSN.
By the way, preordering is available up until release, right?
bananafactory
Banned
Hah, yup, I'm in Canada too. I can get the full game AND season pass for 74.98 on PSN, which is basically what I paid for my retail copy of Destiny after tax.
And yeah as far as I know you can preorder pretty much right up to release, I pre-ordered TLOU like 2 hours before it came out. Though don't leave it too late as I recall people getting errors trying to preorder like 5 minutes before the release time
TimeEffect
Member
Score will be docked for no weather, limited number of cars, little diversity in cars (mostly
Euro brands), strictly track racing (this will be highlighted quite a bit due to FH2 being
released earlier), limited customization/tuning of cars, subpar liveries, no custom music
support....
Metacritic score of 70-79 seems likely for the game. It has not much going for it other than
its visuals and nebulous club racing concept, and the most exciting aspect (weather)
won't even be at launch for reviews.
I think the game will be a better product once all the DLC and patches are released for the
game by early 2015. PS+ verion will be crucial for good word of mouth.
Euro brands), strictly track racing (this will be highlighted quite a bit due to FH2 being
released earlier), limited customization/tuning of cars, subpar liveries, no custom music
support....
Metacritic score of 70-79 seems likely for the game. It has not much going for it other than
its visuals and nebulous club racing concept, and the most exciting aspect (weather)
won't even be at launch for reviews.
I think the game will be a better product once all the DLC and patches are released for the
game by early 2015. PS+ verion will be crucial for good word of mouth.
TimeEffect
Member
BtW,
I would love some less serious modes too... Anyone play Lap Eliminator in Burnout? The person in last place each lap would be eliminated by having their vehicle detonate lol.
Also, since there is a point system, it would be cool if you could win races based on points
So, coming in first, second, third would give you x points, but they would be calculated along with the penalties like collisions, drifts, turns, etc.
I would love some less serious modes too... Anyone play Lap Eliminator in Burnout? The person in last place each lap would be eliminated by having their vehicle detonate lol.
Also, since there is a point system, it would be cool if you could win races based on points
So, coming in first, second, third would give you x points, but they would be calculated along with the penalties like collisions, drifts, turns, etc.
bananafactory
Banned
You really think it'll get docked marks for not being something it was never supposed to be? That seems kind of ridiculous - like docking God of War for not being open-world since Oblivion is.
I don't necessarily believe it should be docked for being a track racer, but I guarantee
you that it will be chastised for being a traditional racer when FH2 is being released
so close to DC. Seriously, they should have had this game ready for a summer
launch so that it wouldn't have to be overshadowed the way it is right now.
I personally will probably sink many hours into DC, but from Day 1, Sony and Evo
have done little to boost the game's prospects.
Not to mention having both track and point-to-point races. That should make a difference to people who play racing games with regularity. Some of the other observations I think may be fair, but that line seemed off-base.
El-Pistolero
Member
I certainly believe it will...You watch!
bananafactory
Banned
I can maybe see the more amateur outlets using a point like that, but I would expect (and hope) that most professional outlets understand that there are many subgenres withing the broader "racing" genre. Track, karting, open-world, offroad, etc. It would be horribly ignorant of them to fail to recognize that this game put an emphasis on creating carefully crafted specific tracks rather than a sandbox to drive in. Most of your other points I can see being fair game for reviewers, though. I also am not convinced the PS4 crowd consists of a lot of Xbox owners at the moment - so I don't see the similar launch window as a huge problem when it comes to sales. Xbox racing fans will buy Forza - PS racers will buy DC. Not sure it's the same target audience they are competing for.
Kinder Egg
Member
Back in the day I really enjoyed Need For Speed Porsche Unleashed/2000 and I get a similar open-road, point to point vibe from this. Definitely looking forward to this.
Btw, who is reviewing this at IGN? Their PS guys have constantly shat on DC for being
a poor man's GT and McCaffrey is disturbingly biased in Microsoft's favor. If I recall
he covered the DC preview and gave FM5 the edge in visuals (lol).
bananafactory
Banned
LOL. I hope he was using old footage, if that was the case.
I'm not sure who will cover it - might be good to look up who did the Gran Turismo 6 review?
That's my favourite driveclub video so far. When the camera moves to behind the car I just sorta hung with my mouth open for a bit. Beautiful stuff.
travisbickle
Member
You'd think he would compare it to actual footage. But no he compared Drive Club, which he was playing at the time, to his imagination of what Forza looks like.
Vroadstar
Member
Yes probably from a warrior like you, so concerned about DC eh.
I think I still prefer my "Kudos to Evolution" one, but that's a damn close second! Love it.
I just like mine more because of the PGR reference
I agree 100%
I was going physical, even knowing i'd save $10 if I went digital before, but $20 is too good.
Digital for me, I guess.
Where's the negative press, Mr. Concer
Have.
I think the hook is having so many aspects to compete with friends over, even offline or those who aren't in a club. Oh, this person got 400 points drifting around this corner? I might just keep lapping until I can nail it even better. String a stack of those drift/challenge/style challenges across a whole track and combine them with different weather/lighting/car classes and I think you've quite a hook.
Not as easy to convey that to potential buyers as, say, "OVER 1000 CARS!" or "OPEN WORLD!!!1" though.
I disagree somewhat. Perhaps so if you're completely offline and have no friends, but even if you check in online every so often I imagine it'd download scores for drifting/times/style/speed/whatever for each corner of each track and give you a challenge to beat for every course you race. In which case, AI doesn't really come into it as you're never really racing anything other than a number or ghost.
But for campaign/offline mode, I'm sure AI will be fine. But I don't think it's the bread-and-butter of the game.
Bahahahahaha.
Fake edit: Does preordering the PS+ upgrade give you access to all those preorder bonuses? I went to the last screen before I lock-in the preorder and it didn't mention anything about extra packs, just the game. Not that it matters, I think I'm going to buy that upgrade as well as the steelbook. Because I like wasting money.
Holy shit. Owned?
viveks86
Member
EmptySpace
Banned
Do we know if that's a regional thing? I suppose if it's appeared for the UK it'll appear for Australia, but it wouldn't surprise me if B&M stores have some kind of shitty exclusivity thing with preorder cars. I know EB has preorder cars on offer, at least.
Edit: Wait, never mind. I'm an idiot. Says this on the page:
Not sure how I feel about the fame points multiplier. Do we know what that does? Just unlock stuff via the career mode quicker, or does it get you more points if you're competing against someone online?
Kabuki Waq
Member
As long there are a lot of well designed tracks it wont be docked points. If the track are samey we will have a problem.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I don't think he actually thinks those things himself, I think he's just putting them forward as reasons why some reviewers will dock points from Driveclub ... and I have to agree with him (unfortunately). For me -- from what I've seen so far -- Driveclub is easily a 9/10 but I can't help but be worried about the way the media works.