This scene of the Sardaukar legions preparing for war was metal as fuck.
The immense volume of that alien guttural chant, the restless storm clouds & pouring rain, the sounds with the human sacrifice rituals were both disturbing and fascinating.
This scene of the Sardaukar legions preparing for war was metal as fuck.
The immense volume of that alien guttural chant, the restless storm clouds & pouring rain, the sounds with the human sacrifice rituals were both disturbing and fascinating.
Not at all. Watched it the day after Dune2021 and it is the superior MOVIE. It has a strong narrative arc, crafts a resolution out of the book, and above all, hits the EMOTIONAL beats necessary. Dune2021, when paired with part 2, might come close, but as it is it is just an artsty fanwank of Dune's themes stripped of all the color.People saying the Lynch version is better are hilarious. I love Lynch but watch that shit again and tell me honestly that it's good. It's a total mess. Even the fan edit that puts the narrative scenes in order and cuts out the dumb parts is a mess.
Not at all. Watched it the day after Dune2021 and it is the superior MOVIE. It has a strong narrative arc, crafts a resolution out of the book, and above all, hits the EMOTIONAL beats necessary. Dune2021, when paired with part 2, might come close, but as it is it is just an artsty fanwank of Dune's themes stripped of all the color.
Math isn't your strength, is it?
> $160 mil is the film's budget and that doesn't include marketing expenses
> that means excluding marketing expenses the film has to make at least $ 320 mil for Warner Bros ju
$160 mil is the film's budget and that doesn't include marketing expenses which is in the millions. Revenue split between studios and distributors is 60/40 in the US and between 20/80 and 40/60 internationally depending on where you are, so let's go with an average 50 percent split for argument's sake, that means excluding marketing expenses the film has to make at least $ 320 mil for Warner Bros just to cover production costs. With marketing costs, to break even this film has to make at least $500 mil for them to think about greenlighting a part 2. We don't know much revenue HBO Max did generate for them so far.
The film is not out of the woods yet, but assuming COVID doesn't get in the way it we could be on track to Part II with long legs in theatres.
Not gonna lie, I felt uncomfortable watching that scene. Dunno why it just bothered me. The whole ritualistic stuff with that chanting... ugh.This scene was insane. Absolutely terrifying and amazing at the same time. I fucking love this scene.
Alright nerds, do I need to reed the book first? I have it ordered and should arrive tomorrow. Been wanting to read it for years.
Hmmm, that's fair. The general wisdom is to read the book first, but I am inpatient!The book will definitely help with the understanding of a lot of what's going on, the movie doesn't do a great job with that. You'll only have to read about half of the book, I think it was like 8-9 hours. I had the kindle and audible version so went back and forth between the two.
Alright nerds, do I need to reed the book first? I have it ordered and should arrive tomorrow. Been wanting to read it for years.
I'm not the one challenging the film's success here.320 mil *0.5= 160 mil (which goes back to WB)
Reading isn't your strength, is it?
Hmmm, that's fair. The general wisdom is to read the book first, but I am inpatient!
Maybe I will do as you say...read the first half of the book, then watch the movie...then read the second half of the book!
Ha! Yeah, that is what I'm between.You'll get a lot more from the movie if you read the book first.
The movie focuses on the big moments from the book but missed most of the details that really give them context. They'll show you a big scene of a character doing something, but won't really explain why what they are doing is important.
In a way it almost felt like it was written for people who have read the book.
Then again you can also watch the movie first and then you'll come to appreciate and understand it better as you read the book. Plus it's only the first half so it won't spoil the second half and ending of the book.
What's that got to do with what you said earlier? You said that the maths don't add up.I'm not the one challenging the film's success here.
Dude. This gives me chills. Holy crap.
very much so on the lucas front, fairly sure he's confirmed that multiple times. dune is incredibly influential, in the vein of something like 1984, where so many other properties have taken aspects of it over time that it feels like you've experienced vast parts of it even when you haven't. from basic things like people stealing the worms to more subtle things (go replay morrowind after reading the book or seeing the movie, and see how much of dune is in that game).Ok, finished watching this today. Having never read the books or seen any of the previous adaptations, here’s my impressions:
First , the movie was really good. Beautiful, sweeping, great music, great cast, overall, just excellent. Sucks we have to wait two years for part 2, but it is what it is.
Second, I feel like I got dropped into the middle of a story and was never really introduced or taught a lot of the unusual stuff. I started grasping it, but the first hour or so, me and my wife both felt like we were just missing something. It all came together, but I think there’s some accessibility issues there that a less-sci-fi person may just give up on. My wife checked out because she felt lost.
The Bene Gesserit almost seem like force users, I’m assuming that Dune may have had some influence on Lucas?
Should I give the books a read? How well did this adaptation do following the source material?
Thanks for putting this so eloquently. It’s exactly how I feel, having read half the book, but would struggle to put into words! At least at the point I’m at, i dare say Paul almost shows contempt and pity for Jessica, whereas at the same part in the movie he’s made to appear much more vulnerable and reliant on her guidance. Love the movie, though, and it’s made me even more excited to finish the book, which I’ve been putting off for far too long.and actually i think watching the movie first, then reading the book might let you enjoy the movie more while not hurting enjoyment of the book. you wouldn't be bothered by the absence of the above stuff since you wouldn't know about it, and the movie ends early enough in the story that you could then read the book and have most of it not spoiled for you.
the only thing i do blame the movie for/didn't like is actually to do with paul. he was fairly likeable in the movie, but his characterisation is different enough from the book to where he's honestly kind of not the same character anymore. again it's the fault of not being able to film internal dialogue, but book paul is so much more prescient, intelligent, competent, fearsome and intimidating than movie paul. the way he's written, the things he notices, the problems he solves, you feel his power, and it goes a long way in making the story feel real and plausible. movie paul has parts of this but he also seems like more of a boy who needs to be bailed out by his mum all the time.
parts of these changes feel subtly intentional too. in the book for e.g. his relationship with his mother is flipped very quickly to where you're very aware just how beyond her in power he is. i imagine this will happen still in the sequel, but i can't help but wonder if it was done to avoid criticism along modern gender politics lines. sort of building up the female characters a little but as a side-effect subtly diminishing paul.
not a biggie or anything, not saying it's a disaster, but i definitely like book paul a lot more than movie paul.
My favourite character is Josh Brolin's. Did I pick poorly?
'Why dont you smile, Gurney?'My favourite character is Josh Brolin's. Did I pick poorly?
OST is good for listening but in the movie it leaves zero impact. Jesus Christ, should have gotten Junkie XL or something so the fights have a bit more oomph.
idk if the studio will have the balls, they get a bit... out thereI bet we will get a Dune Messiah, and Children of Dune film as well.
Now I wanna see porn from "Fuck Denis".Fuck Denis is god