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Dead Man said:
Oookaaaaay.... I think you may be confusing console/PC design differences and multiplatform. But carry on ignoring every game that is not PC exclusive, I guess.
I don't, I should have been more specific but I'm talking strictly about large scale shooters. The disparity between hardware dictates that one platform will suffer greatly as a result of being built for several. I'm just hoping it's not mine.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Weather or not it has anything to do with EA, Maxis is now pretty much dead to me. They're just milking that The Sims train. Give me back the company that wanted to release weird stuff like SimFarm and SimLife and SimAnt

I don't see how Maxis can be "milking The Sims train" when they have absolutely nothing to do with, and no connection to The Sims franchise anymore. Zero, zilch, nada. It's certainly possible you don't like the games they are associated with nowadays, but that doesn't make your point any less invalid.
 
Ok can anyone explain this new "EA Master ID" thing to me?

EVERY SINGLE ID I enter is invalid. What the fuck EA? Well done.
 
hermit7 said:
Project 10 Dollar is the real plague.

That signature edition with Dragon Age II is bullshit too. Why punish people who bought the game new, but didn't preorder the game a certain amount of time before. That is a horrible precedent.
that shit started with Activision and COD. once EA saw Activision could get away with murder, they followed.

Activision is the bane of all this, EA is just taking it to the next level, of SHIT.
 
Des0lar said:
Ok can anyone explain this new "EA Master ID" thing to me?

EVERY SINGLE ID I enter is invalid. What the fuck EA? Well done.
What are you trying to do? Set a master ID? Login to the EA Site? Login to a game?

I have about 18 accounts linked to my EA profile, I have no idea which one is the Master ID though.
 
Cuban Legend said:
that shit started with Activision and COD. once EA saw Activision could get away with murder, they followed.

Activision is the bane of all this, EA is just taking it to the next level, of SHIT.
How did Activision start that? What games that they make have the 10 dollar fee? Cod? Nope.
 
Game2Death said:
How did Activision start that? What games that they make have the 10 dollar fee? Cod? Nope.
COD MW2 PC? Sold on PC @ $60 bucks on release, right? COD4 and every COD before that was the usual $50 from what I remember.

Everyone bought MW2 and it sold like hotcakes even during steam sales at full price. That's Activision leading by example for ya.
 
Cuban Legend said:
COD MW2 PC? Sold on PC @ $60 bucks on release, right? COD4 and every COD before that was the usual $50 from what I remember.

Everyone bought MW2 and it sold like hotcakes even during steam sales at full price. That's Activision leading by example for ya.

That's not Project $10.
 
Dude, just buy your games a few months after release.

This helps you avoid:

A) Marketing campaigns
B) Pre-order exclusives (that you're probably getting in the normal progression anyway.)
C) Spending $60+
D) Any community you needed the EA Pass for (because it will most likely be dead, esp. console games)

I think you're too caught up in pre-release hype and such. Of course you're going to be inundated in information (commercials, pre-order exclusives, etc.) that runs lateral to the game itself. Once the pre-release push deflates, you can safely enjoy the game in a vacuum.

I'm enjoying the hell out of Dead Space 2 and Skate 3 right now because I simply waited to buy them. I bought them new and haven't even bothered entering the EA Pass codes associated with each because I only really want to play the games by myself in single player.
 
soultron said:
Dude, just buy your games a few months after release.

This helps you avoid:

A) Marketing campaigns
B) Pre-order exclusives (that you're probably getting in the normal progression anyway.)
C) Spending $60+
D) Any community you needed the EA Pass for (because it will most likely be dead, esp. console games)

I think you're too caught up in pre-release hype and such. Of course you're going to be inundated in information (commercials, pre-order exclusives, etc.) that runs lateral to the game itself. Once the pre-release push deflates, you can safely enjoy the game in a vacuum.

I'm enjoying the hell out of Dead Space 2 and Skate 3 right now because I simply waited to buy them. I bought them new and haven't even bothered entering the EA Pass codes associated with each because I only really want to play the games by myself in single player.
Actually, they've gotten into the habit recently of making those preorder exclusives preorder EXCLUSIVE. This was especially apparent in Medal of Honor, and may have continued into Battlefield 3 if there wasn't such a strong uproar.

Thing is with EA, they have some absolutely FANTASTIC developers, plus some brilliant products, but their marketing and men in suits seem clueless and cynically interested in getting every dime possible out of their games, but in the process, it ends up being bad for the consumer. I can only hope that new middle management, marketing, and leadership will come in soon and change this anti-consumer direction.
 
all i know is the battlefield games have terrible online interfaces and server browsers

can i blame this on ea in some way?

they should just use steamworks
 
Cuban Legend said:
COD MW2 PC? Sold on PC @ $60 bucks on release, right? COD4 and every COD before that was the usual $50 from what I remember.

Everyone bought MW2 and it sold like hotcakes even during steam sales at full price. That's Activision leading by example for ya.
That's different. That's not the online pass that..almost everyone but Activision has at the moment. Sony. EA. Ubisoft? They just have BS DRM.
 
Kerrby said:
BF3 not coming to Steam is enough to make me hate EA.

I always think it's funny that so many people bash Microsoft because of their anti-competitive practices and so they support Linux just on principle, but when a steam competitor comes along people flip out and just want everyone to go away so that Steam can remain the only player in the industry indefinitely.

Not saying that's you. Just... saying.
 
cpp_is_king said:
I always think it's funny that so many people bash Microsoft because of their anti-competitive practices and so they support Linux just on principle, but when a steam competitor comes along people flip out and just want everyone to go away so that Steam can remain the only player in the industry indefinitely.

Origin isn't a Steam competitor, it's an attempt by EA to create a walled garden for their own content only. I think you will find there are plenty of people happy to buy games from Impulse, GG, D2D, etc. and who would like those services to continue flourishing but aren't excited about publishers pulling their titles off all of those to only sell them at their own exclusive storefront.
 
cpp_is_king said:
I always think it's funny that so many people bash Microsoft because of their anti-competitive practices and so they support Linux just on principle, but when a steam competitor comes along people flip out and just want everyone to go away so that Steam can remain the only player in the industry indefinitely.

Not saying that's you. Just... saying.

I've bought games from like 6 different digital distribution services. I'm not going to buy anything from Origin because EA's past experiments with digital distribution have screwed me over numerous times. It has nothing to do with them competing with Steam. It has to do with their rich history of anti-consumer nonsense. In my experience they are even worse than GFW.
 
I didn't want to read ten pages to find out if somebody pointed out the NFL 2k5 thing. Didn't it come out years ago that it was the NFL who put their video game license up for sale, because they thought 2k was cheapening the brand by selling it so cheaply? I can't find a way to put EA at fault there, if it was already being put up for bidding why wouldn't they take it?
 
charlequin said:
Origin isn't a Steam competitor, it's an attempt by EA to create a walled garden for their own content only. I think you will find there are plenty of people happy to buy games from Impulse, GG, D2D, etc. and who would like those services to continue flourishing but aren't excited about publishers pulling their titles off all of those to only sell them at their own exclusive storefront.
But it's not exclusive. They're selling it on just about every other digital provider.
 
Never going to let them off the hook for killing of 2k football, but...

They do have alot of shit im interested in so, what can ya do.
 
charlequin said:
Origin isn't a Steam competitor, it's an attempt by EA to create a walled garden for their own content only. I think you will find there are plenty of people happy to buy games from Impulse, GG, D2D, etc. and who would like those services to continue flourishing but aren't excited about publishers pulling their titles off all of those to only sell them at their own exclusive storefront.


Inst that is exactly what valve does with its own games.
 
charlequin said:
I think you will find there are plenty of people happy to buy games from Impulse, GG, D2D, etc. and who would like those services to continue flourishing
You're describing me, and I seem to be in a fairly small minority around here. Have you even looked in the thread about BF3 to see how just how much consideration people give to GG, D2D, etc.?

but aren't excited about publishers pulling their titles off all of those to only sell them at their own exclusive storefront.
Good thing EA isn't doing that then.
 
doomed1 said:
Actually, they've gotten into the habit recently of making those preorder exclusives preorder EXCLUSIVE. This was especially apparent in Medal of Honor, and may have continued into Battlefield 3 if there wasn't such a strong uproar.

Thing is with EA, they have some absolutely FANTASTIC developers, plus some brilliant products, but their marketing and men in suits seem clueless and cynically interested in getting every dime possible out of their games, but in the process, it ends up being bad for the consumer. I can only hope that new middle management, marketing, and leadership will come in soon and change this anti-consumer direction.

This is precisely what I hate about EA. I love the games, but the ludicrous pre-order bonuses, absurd marketing stunts, and ludicrous pre-order bonuses that you unlock by participating in absurd viral marketing stunts make it so I can't root for them. A shame too, a year or so ago I declared them the best Western 3rd party of the generation. I think that was around when I purchased DA:O.
 
charlequin said:
Origin isn't a Steam competitor, it's an attempt by EA to create a walled garden for their own content only. I think you will find there are plenty of people happy to buy games from Impulse, GG, D2D, etc. and who would like those services to continue flourishing but aren't excited about publishers pulling their titles off all of those to only sell them at their own exclusive storefront.

I thought we decided that Steam pulled EA's games, and not vice versa. Or did I miss something?
 
evangd007 said:
This is precisely what I hate about EA. I love the games, but the ludicrous pre-order bonuses

Not guilty, you can blame retail for this.

evangd007 said:
, absurd marketing stunts,

Guilty!

evangd007 said:
and ludicrous pre-order bonuses that you unlock by participating in absurd viral marketing stunts make it so I can't root for them.

Somewhat guilty!

evangd007 said:
A shame too, a year or so ago I declared them the best Western 3rd party of the generation. I think that was around when I purchased DA:O.

DA:O was great IMHO, guilty of greatness!
 
Infamous Chris said:
EA has always been trash..
No, there was this little Mirror's Edge / Dead Space period in which EA had this 180° turn. They supported new and innovative ideas, seemed to care about the little projects etc.

Sadly did this period not last very long and now we are almost back to that reckless and soulless money machine EA used to be
 
Kinyou said:
No, there was this little Mirror's Edge / Dead Space period in which EA had this 180° turn. They supported new and innovative ideas, seemed to care about the little projects etc.

Sadly did this period not last very long and now we are almost back to that reckless and soulless money machine EA used to be

No. They released Alice and Shadows of the Damned!
 
Kinyou said:
touché, though you could blame them for hardly making any promotions for either of this games.

yes, and I blame them hard. EA sucks but as a publisher, not developers.
 
Valnen said:
I am. It was Valve's fault Crysis 2 got pulled, it's probably their fault BF3 won't be on there either.
Huh? Valve makes the same contracts with every single publishers. EA isn't okay with the contract, every other publisher is. The requirements are not met and the game is not available on Steam. I don't see how this is not EA's fault.
 
snap0212 said:
Huh? Valve makes the same contracts with every single publishers. EA isn't okay with the contract, every other publisher is. The requirements are not met and the game is not available on Steam. I don't see how this is not EA's fault.
Well Steam isn't a console, and EA doesn't see any reason why it needs to be sold through Steam when there's many other digital distributors.

Both have some fault really.
 
codecow said:
Somewhat guilty!

I mean, I know social media is the new hotness, but I feel that there is a right way and a wrong way to use it for marketing purposes. For example, the Dragon Age flash game put Dragon Age back on my radar after the Marylin Manson ad turned me off from it, and I the fact that I got some in-game stuff from playing it was a nice bonus. But those pyramid schemes where you get some stuff for getting x number of friends to tweet/like on facebook the game? That's low.

codecow said:
DA:O was great IMHO, guilty of greatness!

That was the high point. Loved DA:O. Then came DA2 and your mom hates Dead Space 2. I feel that that ad put a cloud over DS2, which is a shame because DS2 is the best action game this year so far.
 
I posted this over in the Mass Effect Bitching thread but it probably belongs here:

How do I contact EA if their support page is screwed?

Remembering that when I bought ME2 (Xbox360) from EA directly I also bought some ME1 DLC (PC) to qualify for a discount, I went to check my account to remind myself of what it was.

Oh boy.

So after logging in countless times and just getting caught in a loop that landed me back on the login page I rest my password. Great, now I'm in. And my account is there but empty. Nothing registered to it. Awesome. No record of my purchase. Check.

I click "support" and am taken to the shiny new EA support page that also exhibits this awesome login loop. I reset my password again (I should point out I did all this after the NWN breach and made my EA "master pass") and am granted access into EA, but not into support. That still loops.

EA has no record of my purchase, yet knows I've played ME2 online. OK...

Nothing is registered. Not my 2 copies of DA:O. Not ME2. None of my DLC for DA. Well...nothing.

Google turns up mention of a mythical web chat. Yaaaaaah. That leads back to the login loop.

Tried this in Firefox, all extensions disabled. Tried it in vanilla IE 9.0.

Where is all my stuff? Who do I contact? How do I proceed? Not really digging EA at the moment. You might say, I am hating them.
 
EA seriously needs to do something about their shitty online service. Netcode and multiplayer functions have been absolutely abysmal in virtually ALL their games.

Witness the MILLIONS of people who are having problems playing the Skate series online:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/4444379.page

Fucking ridiculous :/
 
The whole Valve/EA thing basically boils down to this:

1.) Valve updated their terms to prohibit DLC not sold through Steam. This is because of their new free-to-play category. If they allowed non-Steam DLC, publishers could release their games for free and offer all major content through DLC, cutting Valve out of the equation.

2.) EA does not want to give Valve a cut of their DLC sales, so they did not agree to these terms.

So basically, both are at fault because neither is willing to compromise. Personally, I will take Valve's side any day just because they have a great track record with looking out for gamer interests, whereas EA, not so much...
 
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