I live in a pretty white part of north Dallas, and my experience is roughly similar. I've seen two Trump signs go up total, and both literally disappeared within 24 hours. I guess people stole them? Or the owners just chickened out? And Hillary is pretty dominant on the bumper sticker game. Hell, I think I've seen more people who still have their Bernie or Ted Cruz sticker on than Trump stickers.
Early voting in Texas is breaking records in their top 10 counties
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I live in a pretty white part of north Dallas, and my experience is roughly similar. I've seen two Trump signs go up total, and both literally disappeared within 24 hours. I guess people stole them? Or the owners just chickened out? And Hillary is pretty dominant on the bumper sticker game. Hell, I think I've seen more people who still have their Bernie or Ted Cruz sticker on than Trump stickers.
hydragonwarrior
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It's still reasonable to assume many of the smaller counties are still loyal to Trump - it's probably easy to find a region that's devoted to that guy if you exclude the areas you listed.
Wasn't '08 a better year for turn out? I'm actually far more interested in comparison to that instead of '12. Still, things are looking awfully interesting in Texas. I think this is going to be the closest the Dems will get to taking the state for the next 3-4 cycles at least.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Fort Worth gaf chiming in don't see little Mexico vote for Trump. Reminds me I need to vote soon.
whyamihere
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It's pretty obvious that this will be the closest Texas will be towards going blue in years.
I live in Seattle and drive all over the city and haven't seen a single sign for Hillary; despite that it will be a landslide for her here.
Yard signs are meaningless; we have Trump who has this cult like following of staunch supporters and the vast majority of the rest of voters are going with Clinton, just not with much excitement.
Trump also has much bigger rallies full of much louder people.
Yard signs are meaningless; we have Trump who has this cult like following of staunch supporters and the vast majority of the rest of voters are going with Clinton, just not with much excitement.
Trump also has much bigger rallies full of much louder people.
i bet fort bend goes blue this time. There are a lot of college educated whites, and asians.
i think we all understand that its purely anecdotal.
However, for 2008 and 2012 you would see Romney and McCain signs and bumper stickers literally everywhere.
youngplaya21
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I live in Ft Worth and can sadly agree. It's getting disturbing how many people are sticking up for Trump here...
2002whitegt
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Voting on Thursday, will do my part to make Harris county blue once again like 2012.
I think that's more indicative of how awful the Trump campaign is at this. And pretty much every source out there tells you this. Number of offices in a state, number of employees, volunteers etc. Trump has been behind badly. It's been reported that the Trump campaign neglected even toss-up states for a while.
Hillary, on the other hand, didn't go in because it's fucking TEXAS. I think they only recently decided to spend more money on TV ads and it wasn't even all that much because the market is actually expensive in the state.
So Texas being neglected shouldn't surprise anyone at all.
Apparently not. It's kinda cute though. I think it gives them hope for a blue texas.
Edit: I'll take a picture of a big blue Hillary sign for you guys tomorrow.
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Evening Musuko
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I live in Harris County and I saw a ton of Romney and McCain signs in the suburbs and even a good number in Houston where there were Obama and Democrat signs EVERYWHERE, especially in 2008.
This time, I haven't seen one Trump sign and maybe 2 or 3 stickers. I've actually seen more Bernie stickers than Trump ones. If anything I've seen more support for the downticket Republicans than Trump himself. I can't really same the same about the Democrats.
We can talk about Texas going purple this year all we want, but it won't matter if the people who voted Democrat don't show up in 2018. That's the one silver lining Republicans have. If Democrats can convince their voters to vote in midterms like they do in presidential elections, the GOP might have more to panic about.
GoldenEye 007
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Dallas is blue. Tarrant (Fort Worth) is red.
Ziltoidia 9
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I can confirm that it is much more active this year in Denton.
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Although the conventional wisdom is that early voting is more common among progressives, it is also true that there's an across-the-board trend towards more early voting. As a result, I find prognostications about early voting and what it bodes for outcomes to be pretty thinly supported.
BlastProcessing
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Here is why I think Texas could be in play. The backbone of the Texas GOP is suburban women. College educated women who was families in the burbs. That is the exact group that Trump struggles with the most. If they don't show up, or even worse vote for Clinton, then that combined with a large Latino turnout could do it.
So the counties to watch are Collin (Dallas suburbs) and Montgomery (Houston suburbs). Romney won those areas by 30+ and that is where he counterbalanced the Urban vote. From there, the rest of the state gives the GOP an easy win.
If Clinton can put a dent in those margins, then it's doable. And having things like Newt Gingrich yell "Your obsessed with Sex" at Megyn Kelly happen aren't going to help win over those women to Trump.
If I am the Texas GOP. I want this election to look exactly like the previous ones. If everything stays the same, then I win easy. This increase in early voting is something new. It breaks a pattern. We don't know if it helps or hurts or does nothing, but it is a significant enough change to merit attention.
So the counties to watch are Collin (Dallas suburbs) and Montgomery (Houston suburbs). Romney won those areas by 30+ and that is where he counterbalanced the Urban vote. From there, the rest of the state gives the GOP an easy win.
If Clinton can put a dent in those margins, then it's doable. And having things like Newt Gingrich yell "Your obsessed with Sex" at Megyn Kelly happen aren't going to help win over those women to Trump.
If I am the Texas GOP. I want this election to look exactly like the previous ones. If everything stays the same, then I win easy. This increase in early voting is something new. It breaks a pattern. We don't know if it helps or hurts or does nothing, but it is a significant enough change to merit attention.
Ziltoidia 9
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I'd also like to add that Denton, Tarrant, Dallas and Collin county has seen a huge population boom the past 5 or so years, and its only going to continue, so that might be playing a roll in it too.
RustyNails
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Nothing will fuck with the Republicans more than their prize jewel turning blue. Come on Tejas, lets do it!
NeOak
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Your part of Dallas is one thing. Saying all of Dallas is a bit of a stretch.
Don't be like that junior that claimed that pretty much Houston, the 4th largest city in the US, is all Trump based on HIS tiny weiner side of the city when we have a fucking Democrat for mayor. Like, come on.
KuwabaraTheMan
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The message they will receive: "We lost because Trump wasn't a true Conservative."
Texas is in play it's been labeled a toss up. Probably a long shot as a toss up but Hillary only being down between three and four points is pretty yuge considering Romney won Texas by sixteen points.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...xas-becomes-tossup-realclearpolitics-declares
Mr_Antimatter
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As a former Texan, it going blue would be hilarious. The salt that would flow on my facebook feed would just be the icing on the cake.
Go Hillary!
Go Hillary!
Alex_Mexico
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Out of those I know Dallas, Hidalgo and El Paso are very much blue. Two border counties and a big city. They're democrat.
It's definitely something pollsters think can happen. If a woman or a person with an accent calls you and asks if you support Trump you are more likely to lie.
I think Hill-dawg is gonna win, but that it will be depressingly close.
I just hope that any and all salt dies before Thanksgiving. My racist half of the family would be insufferable.
Without a party breakdown these numbers don't mean a whole lot.
For an idea of how close they could be, or not, here's how they went in 2012.
Damn, I knew suburbia counters the city's influence in Harris county, but I didn't know it was that much.
Zoe
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I imagine the concern is similar to the thought that east coast numbers on Election Day discourage west coast voters. If the vote is too stacked against you, you feel your vote won't matter. If the vote is way in your favor, you feel your vote isn't necessary.
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titiklabingapat
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All these turnout numbers bodes well for the many progressive local props in a number of states.
Admiral Woofington
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Texas has been slowly become more and more socially aware in certain issues as time passes by. Particularly with the capital being in Austin which has a lot of young liberals.
I remember the woman who was fighting Congress for the abortion bullcrap and how her supporters flooded the Texas capital
Zoe
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Only if people are making it beyond straight ticket.
erotic grandpa
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A local head shop has a huge hand-made sign for Bernie Sanders in front of the store, so if yard signs are anything to go by...he's still got a chance ;u;
I'd love for Texas to go blue, and I've certainly done my part, but I doubt it will happen. That said, I hope it's close enough to make 'em sweat.
I'd love for Texas to go blue, and I've certainly done my part, but I doubt it will happen. That said, I hope it's close enough to make 'em sweat.
What? Really?
They really shouldn't be doing that. Voters should not be allowed to be affected by what other people voted for, especially in the same state...so results shouldn't be announced until the polls closed imo.
Evening Musuko
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Funny thing is, I think the GOP has done more to damage the word Conservative than the Democrats ever have.
If the GOP isn't careful, Conservative might become a bad word just like Liberal has been, and I think for a generation, especially if this Tea Party/Obstructionist/Trump GOP is their first glimpse of "Conservatism" the damage may have been done.
Slayer-33
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Just dandy, just what we need..
Dallas, Travis, and Bexar are all higher for day 2 than day 1, as well.
https://twitter.com/ndhapple/status/791127877320339456
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my teacher told us she would buy us donuts if we went blue, go blue.
I hope hilary is able to win texas this year. It will be glorious if voter backlash was large enough to swing texas to hilary. It will be a lot harder for Hilary to win texas in this election then it was for the Alberta NDP to win the Alberta provincial election in 2015. Alberta is a province in Canada the right wing in Canada thought they owned since they ruled the province for over decades locally and federally but voter backlash against the former provincial government there was large enough to give the Alberta NDP a landslide win in the provincial election last year.People like to compare texas to Alberta a lot at times.
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Hannity had a story today that 2 voters in Texas claim the voting machine changed their vote from Trump to Clinton.
Excuses ready to go.
Excuses ready to go.
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