Katana_Strikes
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Phil Harrison's back?
Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox
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Phil Harrison's back?
Not to insult your opinion on the matter in any way, but I think this does benefit gaming. When people can do cool/fun/interesting things in games, and then share those experiences, that helps spread the word about the game and get more players. One of the things that really helped push Persona 4 in the West (beyond, of course, my awesome cover story for the now-defunct Play magazine *heh*) was Giant Bomb's play-through of the game. Video shows off a game in a way that text or screenshots can't. People had fun watching the Endurance Run, then decided that they wanted to play the game for themselves.
Building up a community around the games we play is a huge deal, and I think will be a must going forward to advance the industry. Being able to easily show off the things that make games enjoyable will help get the word out about those games, and get others to try them. That's hugely important in my mind. So, I'm super-hyped about the concept.
I also don't get the "I'll buy the new Xbox instead of waiting a few months" complaining. We've had to wait years and years to finally get successors to the PS3 and Xbox 360a few more months is nothing. Life works that way, and it sucks sometimes.
TheKaeptain
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I don't buy the "not enough hardware" argument. Every &#^%$ single electronics manufacturer is able to release a product in the US and EU at the same time. It's not like the PS4 is going to feature radical new tech that's pushing the limits of manufacturing resulting in low yield rates like Sony experienced with the Cell and blue laser tech. The PS4 is going to be far more conventional.
There is _NO_ excuse for a late Euro launch.
demosthenes
Member
LOL.
A reactionary thread to an article that we're not even sure is 100% legit. Please, the bold makes my brain hurt.
I did understand your argument. I just don't agree with it.
Proelite
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It's harder to Sony to do split ram at this point than 8GB of GDDR5, they'll have to completely redo their motherboard, buses, and OS software.
I think devkits shipped with 8GB of GDDR5. They might be able to repurpose the devkits for retail. That's what MS did with 360 to double the ram very late in the development lifecycle.
It's probably the same chip they use for remote play on vita. So either the share feature is effectively free because they were planning vita remote play, or remote play will be free because they were planning sharing.
Exactly now that there is no cell and Blu Ray there really are no excuses left especially when other companies can do this shit without issue.
4Gb for immediate graphics, framebuffers etc. 4GB DDR3 for OS and large cache for streaming engines etc. would be really good.
Yum.
When you posted that, you were the only one in the thread that loved it.
ScepticMatt
Member
Yeah. A 16 chip stack of super cheap DDR3-1600 Hynix RAM would give you ~205GB/s. So if stacking is ready, I'd go with that.
I doubt that they go with a split memory pool after all the focus on unified RAM.
Basically ps4.
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Deleted member 13876
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It's hypothetical at this point, but that doesn't mean the disappointed reaction will be any different if it turns out true. In the same vein, you're hyped as hell at the prospect of 8GB RAM, but that is just as much up in the air.
Duallusion
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Well, if MS releases in EU before Sony does, that will make my choice a whole lot easier. I hope both of them don't fuck us over.
And no way they'll throw in 8GB of GDDR5.
And no way they'll throw in 8GB of GDDR5.
You really think a few months will make that big of a difference?
zomgbbqftw
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None of that is particularly difficult. The EU is a single market (other than the UK, but that's not a big concern, our regulations are even easier than EU ones). Translating stuff into German, French, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese and Greek is not a big deal. They can pay an agency a few thousand Euros to do that and get it back overnight! The EU themselves have a translation agency that give you fast returns for legal stuff like an EULA. There aren't many national level regulations and laws they have to comply with over and above what the EU requires for the Single Market. If Sony meet the EU rules it allows them to sell PS4 everywhere within the EU.
Sony have a formidable distribution operation within the single market, that is not a real reason to delay and they also have local marketing offices everywhere for PlayStation.
The reason given for the PS3 delay was supply issues, Sony overestimated Japanese demand for PS3.
Launching in Western Europe in 2013 is a must for them, MS are not as handicapped this time around. They will just have to launch without Eastern Europe and worry about that later. They need to have market presence in 2013 to hoover up online players for next gen COD and FIFA with free PSN.
"Presenting the all new... PlayStation Vita Go!"
We know Sony,we know.
It did 360 vs PS3. They have been playing catchup ever since.
Xbox is 'the' brand, for better or worse.
Sony would be damn fools to repeat their mistake.
Do you really need unified memory at that level though? You'll need 512MB or more for the OS, large caches for streaming engines etc. things that don't really need the speed of GDDR5. So maybe don't think of it as split memory pools, think of it as 4Gb game RAM and 4GB for super fast scratchpad and OS
Playstation Vita PSP Go sounds more plausible.
You don't have enough wizzard's jizz.
kikonawa
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Wont matter much. Launch will have massive shortages anyway
gundamkyoukai
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velociraptor
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That all depends on what Microsoft do now doesn't it. We don't even have a date for an announcement yet, let alone a date for release. They might also target the US first and make the EU wait. They might do US+UK first and then worry about everyone else, since those two markets are closer to each other than any others.
Bearing in mind that in Sony's past they did release a console in the UK/Ireland before they released it in the rest of Europe, even if it was only a week.
There is an *if* in there though. We have no idea when MS will launch. If Sony delay to 2014 in Europe, it might give MS the opportunity to do the same. Europe might not get any next gen love this year
I think 360 and PS3 were separated by a lot more than a few months. And they've still sold about equally.
Regardless, I wouldn't take anything in this article as fact.
Evolution_1ne
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ps3 launched a year and half after the 360 and sold MORE, not the same amount, MORE console than the 360. and that was with the massive as fuck as price difference, you think MS is going to be able to dominate there with a 4 month window......lol
AgentP
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They will give you guys God of War Ascension and The Last of Us on PS+ to make up for it, while the US will get Sports Champions 2.
Then both have to come out at the same time.....
zomgbbqftw
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But someone at Sony needs to have the balls to pull the trigger and say worldwide launch, fuck the shortages.
H_Prestige
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It would be great in a game like Dark Souls when something crazy happens and you can have video footage of it.
OldJadedGamer
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Yup, and this is the reason Europe will get the system last. Because it won't matter. It matters to the US and Japan to launch at the same time.
makingmusic476
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Maaaan I can't wait. The new console sounds awesome.
And lol @ Sony always taking its European userbase for granted.
I mean sorry guys. =(
And lol @ Sony always taking its European userbase for granted.
I mean sorry guys. =(
maquiladora
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This is going to be such an entertaining year on gaf.
Yes I do, at least here in the UK.
a) People are fucking starved for a new system, how many years has it been?
b) Xbox is the current console of choice.
c) Most non hardcore people (and kids) will get one console, if they have no choice which console will they get for Christmas?
I'll say it again, giving Microsoft a two/three month advantage over the mega sale time of Christmas is madness.
Or at least that is my opinion.