Edge: PS4 to launch in Europe in early 2014, US/JP 2013, more powerful than next Xbox
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Phoenician_Viking
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Yep. This is the most likely what that means.
er yeah. You could just read the preceding sentence.
I'd venture to say match it in size. Durante seems to have a tropical ram setup, Sony has the easier tech, the good old fashion faster ram.
Btw I would love to see Kazuo Hirai get up on stage on the 20th and clench a fist in the air and go: We did it. We matched them on power consumption..
It's size. Not bandwidth - they are rumoured to have more already; and not power consumption -
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
Exactly my thoughts ashes.
They already have the faster RAM. So what else would they need to match? I think people will be surprised at the final specs.
They already have the faster RAM. So what else would they need to match? I think people will be surprised at the final specs.
MidgarBlowedUp
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More ram lets you hold more polygons and textures in memory so it can be readily processed on a per frame or per scene basis. Faster ram does speed up render time vs slower ram but, if you can't load the whole scene in memory it kinda defeats the purpose of faster ram since the system would require the use of virtual memory. This indicates, to me, that the PS4 will be pretty damn powerful.
THE:MILKMAN
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The Edge article seems as confused as most others I think. They keep mixing up dev kit specs with target final console specs.
Wrong? Durango dev kit is 12GB is it not?
This is the latest targeted final console spec, not the dev kit spec.
Taking the last sentence on its own it can only mean one thing...Sony to match (Match means "Equal" in queens English) Microsoft's 8GB ( I don't believe it)
Edge said:
Wrong? Durango dev kit is 12GB is it not?
Edge said:
This is the latest targeted final console spec, not the dev kit spec.
Taking the last sentence on its own it can only mean one thing...Sony to match (Match means "Equal" in queens English) Microsoft's 8GB ( I don't believe it)
Edge said:
90TilInfinity
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i-lo's (or Thuway's? One of the two) theory that Sony could be trying to go for 6GB GDDR5 RAM makes alot of sense assuming it's true that they're using 512mb for the OS. That 5.5GB GDDR5 would match up well to the 5-7GB DDR3 Microsoft plans on using for games.
I have no idea how that would affect the price or size though.
I have no idea how that would affect the price or size though.
You hope and expect alot but we shall see what they both offer eh?
Please dude. No one is doing 4K resolution gaming on consoles. You do not need 8gig of DDR5 for anything next year or in 3 years.
Oh boy...
http://www.rambus.com/in/technology/solutions/xdr2/index.html
If they go for something like 6GB they need to redesign their entire chip since it requires a wider memory controller.
With Vita, I could see your point. No one expected Sony to take a hit on the unit, but they did, and kudos to them. However, the RAM situation is a bit different. Heat goes up dramatically every GB they add. It's a sensitive situation that is not as easy as chucking another chip in. You have to factor in cooling and size costs.
What's that from?
On a side note, GDDR5 has never actually been mentioned in the last few leaks, so theoretically it could be a different type of ram. Stacked or XDR2 or whatever.
Only on paper! No actual product.
Kung Fu Grip
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So do you think it's 100% impossible for Sony to have changed to 8GB? Forget GDDR5 for a second.
Edit- banned? Wha?
There could be one who knows??
ofcourse they can incorporate 2 gig ofXDR2 ...u will see million things on screen
some execs of XDR2 are Japanese and 1 of them actually worked for SONY. SO yea if that happens we are in for a ride
Think he broke the "don't bitch about threads" rule. couple of people warned him to edit but he obviously didn't come back to see them.
Kung Fu Grip
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Was because of the other thread? Anyway I hope he's here for the reveal. I want to see what he got right and wrong.
Edit- skipped DBT85's post.
Thuway does not deliberately obfuscate 1 truth with multiple lies to cover his tracks like Proelite. He can not be trusted. Better wait for Bruce'R'eeRoy/GopherD/lherre(this one being the vaguest of them all) for more suitable information.
why did this guy got banned?
Can you describe the clamshell design? Is it where 2 chips have the same location on the board with one above and another on the underside of the mobo?
He broke the rule pertaining to bitching about the existence of a thread in it.
Agreed. Thuway over Proelite for leaks any day lol. I think I have Thuway on my FB anyway, so I'll prod him for deets if he gets any new one's lol.
is he perma banned or temp banned?? man this guy had great tweets
Either that or 384-bit wide. Either way you end up with 12 chips, or 16 if they go for 8GB. It's not IMPOSSIBLE, just not very likely since it'll cause the designers quite a few headaches for reasons that have been mentioned way too many times before.
Given the cause and since he is not a junior, it is temporary.
Will be waiting for your posts then.
There is a vid in the link which shows how it matches up against GDDR5. Actual silicon.
It was launched in Marched 2008 Officially. It is available even though AMD decided at the last moment not to put it in their 7900 series. Doesn't need to just be in pc's and video cards. High end networking environments can use it to.
Insane Metal
Member
thuway! Nooooo 
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
His avatar would be gone if it was a permanent ban.
Nah, that's just a myth.
Avatar disppearing when banned is just a random glitch, apparently.
Yep. Manos still has his avatar.
On Topic: We really do need to see some game leaks.
I shouldn't really say, but as far as I know, both Thuway and Proelite had access to some of the same information. Which was essentially some official documentation pertaining to specs for Durango or something, from some time back. Thuway has a source that's linked to one of these companies, not sure if Proelite has anything similar.
That's likely why both have been somewhat higgeldy piggeldy with information. especially Proelite. One, because this type of news changes all the time, even among sources, and two, because a bulk of the information they had in the first place was actually quite dated.
I know Thuway updates himself with new information from his source(s), but I'm not sure if Proelite does or can do the same outside of posts he reads about it on the forums. That might explain why he was always less reliable and privy to change. Who knows.
That's likely why both have been somewhat higgeldy piggeldy with information. especially Proelite. One, because this type of news changes all the time, even among sources, and two, because a bulk of the information they had in the first place was actually quite dated.
I know Thuway updates himself with new information from his source(s), but I'm not sure if Proelite does or can do the same outside of posts he reads about it on the forums. That might explain why he was always less reliable and privy to change. Who knows.
Once its announced, every publisher will be announcing games over the coming months. You won't need leaks.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I'd like to know this too
Wario got a 2 week ban for thread complaining. His ban is lifted now, but I think he's boycotting GAF.
Proelite doesn't sound like he knows anything.
This is what I'm thinking as well. It was good to see Thuway agreed with me earlier.
I'm expecting Durango to have 5.5-6Gb of RAM for games so if Sony got up to around that number it would be a huge boon for Orbis, especially since they've got the decompression hardware and stuff to aid in streaming for their smaller amount of RAM. If they leave that in there and speed up the blu ray drive, which they would kind of have too with more RAM, they'll possibly be able to get the advantage in all areas of RAM when you factor in streaming.
I just think it may be too expensive/too late to do that for Sony. It's not like they're in bad shape right now in terms of specs and they could possibly even sell Orbis at profit right out of the gate with current specs. Upping the RAM amount wouldn't benefit much right out the gate but will come into play later in the gen, especially with open world games. It depends on how forward thinking Sony wants to, or can afford to be.
Hey guys, did you hear this? PS4 will feature "hyperrealistic games" and "render games at 240 frames per second" - Michael Pachter
H_Prestige
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He's a MS employee, right? Not sure why he'd be privy to ps4 details.
statham
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isn't vgleaks doing durango tomorrow
I need any kind of leaks, or these will be 2 fucking long weeks.
Hopefully.
Nvidia has GPU's with 2GB memory with a 192-bit bus such as GTX660Ti.
CloakedPuppet
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Drool. This sounds amazing!
Microsoft employee in an unrelated (non gaming) department from what I can remember. Karak has a Microsoft employee source but is not an employee himself (I think).